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Tjn, I liked the health care bill better when it wasn't watered down. But the repulicans had nothing to do with the bill being "watered" down. |
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No disrespect but I disagree, Tjn.
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Edited by
Dragoness
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I see this election as result of the public outrage against the Obama and the dems, how they didn't do jack for an entire year. Take my word for it. This is a revenge attack, just like not long ago, electing the New Jersey governor, who is also republican (Chris Christie) See more similar vote outcomes coming near you this year. Too bad they are not really thinking it through. Because there is nothing to blame on the president or congress this last year. All of their problems came from before that. |
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No disrespect but I disagree, Tjn. You disagree about what? If the dems wanted to they could have passed this months ago and there was nothing the republicans could have done to stop it. |
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I see this election as result of the public outrage against the Obama and the dems, how they didn't do jack for an entire year. Take my word for it. This is a revenge attack, just like not long ago, electing the New Jersey governor, who is also republican (Chris Christie) See more similar vote outcomes coming near you this year. Too bad they are not really thinking it through. Because there is nothing to blame on the president or congress this last year. All of their problems came from before that. I knew it would happen. Blame Bush. How does the past administraton have anything to do with this? |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Tue 01/19/10 08:43 PM
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I see this election as result of the public outrage against the Obama and the dems, how they didn't do jack for an entire year. Take my word for it. This is a revenge attack, just like not long ago, electing the New Jersey governor, who is also republican (Chris Christie) See more similar vote outcomes coming near you this year. Too bad they are not really thinking it through. Because there is nothing to blame on the president or congress this last year. All of their problems came from before that. Anybody without a private agenda and a brain can make the determination that we are still paying for what came before last year. Economists, experts they all say it and told us this before Obama came into office. |
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I see this election as result of the public outrage against the Obama and the dems, how they didn't do jack for an entire year. Take my word for it. This is a revenge attack, just like not long ago, electing the New Jersey governor, who is also republican (Chris Christie) See more similar vote outcomes coming near you this year. Too bad they are not really thinking it through. Because there is nothing to blame on the president or congress this last year. All of their problems came from before that. Anybody without a private agenda and a brain can make the determination that we are still paying for what came before last year. Economists, experts they all say it and told us this before Obama came into office. I knew it would happen. Blame Bush. How does the past administraton have anything to do with this? And that has what to do with Brown getting elected and being the 41st vote to block the healthcare bill. |
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They better get the healthcare bill done then if that is the underhanded purpose for the repubs then huh?
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This could still backfire. The Reps could use the one extra member to stall everything and then get voter backlash from it later. Brown campaigned on being the 41st vote to block the health care bill and the people spoke. They voted for him! Obviously thats what the people want so I don't see it backfiring on the Republicans. If anything it's a sign to the Democrats to start working with all of congress not just themselves! There is a lot of scared Democrats in Washington right now! I have no doubt that this is the result of the health care bill. The backlash to which I referred pertained all the subsequent votes to come between now and the next election. I hope, with all of my heart, that this won't be the end of the health care bill. I want it to be the end of the bloated, over indulgent government run idea. Let them ALL now put their heads together and set up a bill that is truly good for the MAJORITY of Americans. Let's see actual reform. |
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They better get the healthcare bill done then if that is the underhanded purpose for the repubs then huh? No maybe they should start over and include the repubs in drafting the bill. |
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I see this election as result of the public outrage against the Obama and the dems, how they didn't do jack for an entire year. Take my word for it. This is a revenge attack, just like not long ago, electing the New Jersey governor, who is also republican (Chris Christie) See more similar vote outcomes coming near you this year. Too bad they are not really thinking it through. Because there is nothing to blame on the president or congress this last year. All of their problems came from before that. Anybody without a private agenda and a brain can make the determination that we are still paying for what came before last year. Economists, experts they all say it and told us this before Obama came into office. Hey....just in case you didn't see my post in another thread.... Go look up Obama's voting record as a Senator. For you and the Dems to be able to say that they are completely blameless for the current mess, Obama and the rest of the Dems ( ALL of them ) absolutely HAD to have voted against every single spending bill that George Bush proposed. If Obama voted for more than even ONE of the spending bills, then HE is just as much to blame. |
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I see this election as result of the public outrage against the Obama and the dems, how they didn't do jack for an entire year. Take my word for it. This is a revenge attack, just like not long ago, electing the New Jersey governor, who is also republican (Chris Christie) See more similar vote outcomes coming near you this year. Too bad they are not really thinking it through. Because there is nothing to blame on the president or congress this last year. All of their problems came from before that. Anybody without a private agenda and a brain can make the determination that we are still paying for what came before last year. Economists, experts they all say it and told us this before Obama came into office. Hey....just in case you didn't see my post in another thread.... Go look up Obama's voting record as a Senator. For you and the Dems to be able to say that they are completely blameless for the current mess, Obama and the rest of the Dems ( ALL of them ) absolutely HAD to have voted against every single spending bill that George Bush proposed. If Obama voted for more than even ONE of the spending bills, then HE is just as much to blame. If the people were worried about that they wouldn't have voted them in in 2008 obviously. Bush and his cronies are the reason we suffer today. So blaming Obama is ludicrous. |
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Wow. You cannot be serious...lmao
You REPEATEDLY claim the the Dems are totally blameless as far as what is going on right now. But yet....you CONTINUE to completely and utterly ignore the voting record. As I said a couple of times before.... If the Dems want to say they had nothing to do with what has happened, and it's ALL BUSH'S FAULT, then every single one of them, INCLUDING Saint Obama had to have voted against each and EVERY spending bill that was put before them. Do you have ANY idea how ludicrous it is to hold the people who voted FOR the spending bills blameless for our current situation??? Seriously. Any idea at all??? |
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Wow. You cannot be serious...lmao You REPEATEDLY claim the the Dems are totally blameless as far as what is going on right now. But yet....you CONTINUE to completely and utterly ignore the voting record. As I said a couple of times before.... If the Dems want to say they had nothing to do with what has happened, and it's ALL BUSH'S FAULT, then every single one of them, INCLUDING Saint Obama had to have voted against each and EVERY spending bill that was put before them. Do you have ANY idea how ludicrous it is to hold the people who voted FOR the spending bills blameless for our current situation??? Seriously. Any idea at all??? Considering that the reason we suffer comes from years ago, not just a couple of years ago. The dems in office now are not even the problem. We have to go farther back then 2008 which is when the dems came into power in congress. Our problems started way before that. So I will say again blaming Obama or the dems in office now is ludicrous. I have to say the same things to you over and over and over and over. |
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Wow. You cannot be serious...lmao You REPEATEDLY claim the the Dems are totally blameless as far as what is going on right now. But yet....you CONTINUE to completely and utterly ignore the voting record. As I said a couple of times before.... If the Dems want to say they had nothing to do with what has happened, and it's ALL BUSH'S FAULT, then every single one of them, INCLUDING Saint Obama had to have voted against each and EVERY spending bill that was put before them. Do you have ANY idea how ludicrous it is to hold the people who voted FOR the spending bills blameless for our current situation??? Seriously. Any idea at all??? Considering that the reason we suffer comes from years ago, not just a couple of years ago. The dems in office now are not even the problem. We have to go farther back then 2008 which is when the dems came into power in congress. Our problems started way before that. So I will say again blaming Obama or the dems in office now is ludicrous. I have to say the same things to you over and over and over and over. You simply don't get it. Ok....I'll explain this slowly so you can keep up. IT DOESN'T MATTER when the problem started. The fact is that the Dems absolutely cannot consider themselves " blameless " for the current situation because they voted for a lot of the things that CAUSED the problems. You keep saying that EVERYTHING now is the Republicans' fault, yet the Dems voted FOR many of the things the Republicans put up for a vote. What part of that can you not grasp??? The reason you have to keep repeating yourself is because you are proven wrong over and over and over and just cannot accept the fact that your ideals are, at best, weak and utterly illogical. Oh, by the way. Take a look at the Massachusetts results and you'll see that the Dems " Blame Bush " fallback position has gotten old in the eyes of the voters. THOSE people are the ones that count. |
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Wow. You cannot be serious...lmao You REPEATEDLY claim the the Dems are totally blameless as far as what is going on right now. But yet....you CONTINUE to completely and utterly ignore the voting record. As I said a couple of times before.... If the Dems want to say they had nothing to do with what has happened, and it's ALL BUSH'S FAULT, then every single one of them, INCLUDING Saint Obama had to have voted against each and EVERY spending bill that was put before them. Do you have ANY idea how ludicrous it is to hold the people who voted FOR the spending bills blameless for our current situation??? Seriously. Any idea at all??? Considering that the reason we suffer comes from years ago, not just a couple of years ago. The dems in office now are not even the problem. We have to go farther back then 2008 which is when the dems came into power in congress. Our problems started way before that. So I will say again blaming Obama or the dems in office now is ludicrous. I have to say the same things to you over and over and over and over. You simply don't get it. Ok....I'll explain this slowly so you can keep up. IT DOESN'T MATTER when the problem started. The fact is that the Dems absolutely cannot consider themselves " blameless " for the current situation because they voted for a lot of the things that CAUSED the problems. You keep saying that EVERYTHING now is the Republicans' fault, yet the Dems voted FOR many of the things the Republicans put up for a vote. What part of that can you not grasp??? The reason you have to keep repeating yourself is because you are proven wrong over and over and over and just cannot accept the fact that your ideals are, at best, weak and utterly illogical. Oh, by the way. Take a look at the Massachusetts results and you'll see that the Dems " Blame Bush " fallback position has gotten old in the eyes of the voters. THOSE people are the ones that count. I keep saying that you cannot hold the current dems and Obama responsible for the current mess we are in and I will reiterate that same thing again and again because you haven't proven otherwise. The current dems and Obama are not to blame for the mess we have and suffering of the people. People need to keep this in mind when they consider who to vote for. Obama and the current dems are not at fault. They cannot fix the mess in one year. |
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I keep saying that you cannot hold the current dems and Obama responsible for the current mess we are in and I will reiterate that same thing again and again because you haven't proven otherwise. Really?? So every single one of the Democrats who were around when the problems started AND voted FOR the spending bills put before them have ALL BEEN VOTED OUT and replaced??? I think I'll look up how many of them were around before 2008. Again...your logic is completely faulty. The current dems and Obama are not to blame for the mess we have and suffering of the people. He...and others...all voted FOR the bills. HE...and others....are just as much to blame. AGAIN...your logic is faulty...along with being misguided. People need to keep this in mind when they consider who to vote for. That's the beauty of it. The people are getting tired of the " Blame Bush because we don't want to be held accountable " rhetoric. They ARE keeping that in mind when they see no progress with the promise of higher and higher taxes. Obama and the current dems are not at fault. They cannot fix the mess in one year. If every single Democrat who voted for ANY of the spending bills over the last few years has been voted out of office and replaced, your argument might hold water. Unfortunately for you....it simply doesn't. |
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I keep saying that you cannot hold the current dems and Obama responsible for the current mess we are in and I will reiterate that same thing again and again because you haven't proven otherwise. Really?? So every single one of the Democrats who were around when the problems started AND voted FOR the spending bills put before them have ALL BEEN VOTED OUT and replaced??? I think I'll look up how many of them were around before 2008. Again...your logic is completely faulty. The current dems and Obama are not to blame for the mess we have and suffering of the people. He...and others...all voted FOR the bills. HE...and others....are just as much to blame. AGAIN...your logic is faulty...along with being misguided. People need to keep this in mind when they consider who to vote for. That's the beauty of it. The people are getting tired of the " Blame Bush because we don't want to be held accountable " rhetoric. They ARE keeping that in mind when they see no progress with the promise of higher and higher taxes. Obama and the current dems are not at fault. They cannot fix the mess in one year. If every single Democrat who voted for ANY of the spending bills over the last few years has been voted out of office and replaced, your argument might hold water. Unfortunately for you....it simply doesn't. First our problems started before 2008 probably before 2006 so if you want to do the work to prove they were all in, have fun. I know the dems now and Obama are not to blame for the problems we are having now. Anyone with sense should be able to see that unless they are blinded by their own agenda. |
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Edited by
JustAGuy2112
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Tue 01/19/10 10:47 PM
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I keep saying that you cannot hold the current dems and Obama responsible for the current mess we are in and I will reiterate that same thing again and again because you haven't proven otherwise. Really?? So every single one of the Democrats who were around when the problems started AND voted FOR the spending bills put before them have ALL BEEN VOTED OUT and replaced??? I think I'll look up how many of them were around before 2008. Again...your logic is completely faulty. The current dems and Obama are not to blame for the mess we have and suffering of the people. He...and others...all voted FOR the bills. HE...and others....are just as much to blame. AGAIN...your logic is faulty...along with being misguided. People need to keep this in mind when they consider who to vote for. That's the beauty of it. The people are getting tired of the " Blame Bush because we don't want to be held accountable " rhetoric. They ARE keeping that in mind when they see no progress with the promise of higher and higher taxes. Obama and the current dems are not at fault. They cannot fix the mess in one year. If every single Democrat who voted for ANY of the spending bills over the last few years has been voted out of office and replaced, your argument might hold water. Unfortunately for you....it simply doesn't. First our problems started before 2008 probably before 2006 so if you want to do the work to prove they were all in, have fun. I know the dems now and Obama are not to blame for the problems we are having now. Anyone with sense should be able to see that unless they are blinded by their own agenda. You " know the Dems now....." Try to keep up here.... If they were around THEN....then they were PART OF THE PROBLEM!!! Why is this sooooo difficult for you to understand?? Perhaps because you are " blinded by " your OWN agenda? Seems likely considering that you completely and utterly ignore the logic. But then again, you are pretty good at that. |
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All these people talking about the healthcare reform bill...
My biggest problem with it, is when people stop having to pay out of pocket, they will stop caring about healthcare. This would not be a problem if politicians weren't as corrupt as they are. But, i seriously doubt we will see any actual solution to our problems come from washington. It takes a fool to trust a politician with their lives... |
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