Topic: State board accuses octuplet doctor of negligence
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Mon 01/04/10 08:26 PM
LOS ANGELES – The fertility doctor who Nadya Suleman claimed helped her conceive her brood of 14 has been formally accused of negligence and violation of professional guidelines by the California Medical Board.

The state licensing body said Monday that Beverly Hills fertility doctor Michael Kamrava acted "beyond the reasonable judgment of any treating physician" by repeatedly providing fertility treatment to a woman identified in the complaint only by the initials "N.S."

Suleman has previously identified Kamrava as her doctor. The document says his patient became pregnant with octuplets. Suleman gave birth to the world's longest-living set of octuplets on Jan. 26, 2009. She already had six other children.

Kamrava is accused of gross negligence in three instances: transferring too many embryos, repeatedly transferring fresh embryos when frozen ones were available, and failing to refer Suleman for a mental health evaluation.

Kamrava is also accused of giving Suleman too much of a hormone while stimulating in vitro fertilization, poor record keeping and "failure to recognize that N.S.'s behavior was outside the norm and that her conduct was placing her offspring at risk for potential harm."

Calls to Kamrava's office Monday were not returned. However, his attorney Peter Osinoff said fertility patients aren't typically screened for mental health problems "unless there is overt evidence of pathology, and there was not overt evidence of pathology, that will be our argument."

He added that Kamrava wants to continue practicing medicine.

Dr. Richard Paulson, who heads the fertility program at the University of Southern California, said it sounds like Kamrava did nothing "to prevent this disaster."

"An octuplet pregnancy, in my opinion, is a disaster," said Paulson, who has no role in the case.

Suleman has said she underwent the in vitro treatment that bore octuplets because she didn't want her frozen embryos to go to waste. However, the complaint said Kamrava never used frozen embryos in her pregnancies, and his lawyer said Suleman requested fresh embryos be used to improve chances of success.

A call to Suleman's lawyer, Jeff Czech, was not returned Monday.

The document reveals Suleman underwent a long series of fertility treatments from 1997 to 2008 under Kamrava's care.

She first went to Kamrava's Beverly Hills office at age 21 and underwent artificial insemination using donor sperm. She failed to get pregnant twice using that method.

In 1999, Suleman consulted with Kamrava about in vitro fertilization. She underwent a procedure similar to IVF, but it led to an ectopic pregnancy. She began hormone therapy in 2000, commonly done before IVF to improve the chances of harvesting a healthy, viable egg. Her first child was born in 2001.

Over the next several years, she repeatedly returned to Kamrava for IVF treatment, usually several months after giving birth, and would freeze the unused eggs.

Kamrava had access to frozen eggs but failed to implant them or recommend that Suleman use them, putting her health at increased risk, the complaint said.

The medical board also alleged that Kamrava "failed to exercise appropriate judgment and question whether there would be harm to her living children and any future offspring should she continue to conceive."

Kamrava continues to advertise his services in Los Angeles' large Iranian expatriate community. For the past nine years, he has paid for airtime on Los Angeles' Iranian radio station, KIRN 670AM, where he hosts a live, weekly call-in show.

Kamrava tells listeners he is the inventor of a method that improves chances of pregnancy by using a hysteroscopy to guide the fertilized egg to the uterine lining and adhering it with an "embryo glue."

On a show last year, he said the process allows an embryo to be implanted "precisely each time instead of dropping an embryo blindly into a uterus and hoping it will take, and praying to God it's in the best place."

The document indicates Suleman agreed to undergo that procedure after failing to get pregnant twice from IVF using fresh eggs. Kamrava transferred "a number of blastocyst embryos far in excess of" the American Society of Reproductive Medicine's recommendations of one or two embryos, the complaint said.

The document does not specify how many embryos were transferred in each pregnancy.

Suleman's difficulties in earlier pregnancies justified the use of more embryos, said Osinoff.

"There were guidelines but not standards, and the reason they were guidelines is that there were different ways of care, different numbers of embryos would be applicable to different patients," he said.

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Wed 01/06/10 01:54 AM
Kamrava was exceedingly successful in developing and implementing his new technique. But as with all scientific experiments gone awry, he accidentally created a monster. No one wanted for it to go this way. You know who the biggest monster is? The people who won't leave her the hell alone!!

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Wed 01/06/10 11:36 AM
^Leave her alone? She relishes in it. She is an attention whore. She doesn't mind it one bit. In fact, she has stated she wants more children. So don't think she wants to be left alone. Even her own mother thinks she is bat sh#t crazy.

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Wed 01/06/10 11:41 AM
I guess my issue here would be the octo mom today and my surgery or something tomorrow.

Although I agree the woman has mental issues, which are obvious, I don't want to start a ball rolling here that we cannot stop.

Let the crazy folks do what they want to do to themselves. It is their body.

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Wed 01/06/10 06:31 PM

I guess my issue here would be the octo mom today and my surgery or something tomorrow.

Although I agree the woman has mental issues, which are obvious, I don't want to start a ball rolling here that we cannot stop.

Let the crazy folks do what they want to do to themselves. It is their body.

Great ideafrustrated
Leave them alone so there will be more children growing up with basically to parental supervision.

Just what we need more people living on welfare.slaphead

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Wed 01/06/10 06:40 PM
You've picked one person out of this whole world to jump their bones, as par for the course. No, she didn't want the attention. She had to live with it after her life was plastered all over the media. She said she didn't want for it to happen this way. Find me one instance where she has said differently, and post your source.

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Wed 01/06/10 06:48 PM

You've picked one person out of this whole world to jump their bones, as par for the course. No, she didn't want the attention. She had to live with it after her life was plastered all over the media. She said she didn't want for it to happen this way. Find me one instance where she has said differently, and post your source.

Didn't want the attention but a reality show wont get her any attention right.
Uh but that's right she's just doing it to get money to raise money for her kids.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1902269,00.html

The news that Nadya Suleman, also known as the villainous-sounding Octomom, had signed a deal to do a TV show was met with the full spectrum of reactions, from "Haven't we/they suffered enough?" to "Well, that was inevitable" to "I'd rather put my eyes out with claw hammers." But as it turns out, it's unlikely the Suleman brood will be bringing their brand of family entertainment to Stateside TV sets anytime soon. (See the top 10 reality shows.)

The show will be produced out of England by Eyeworks, the third largest independent television producer in the world. Formed in 2001 and based in the Netherlands, it has affiliates in 14 countries, and its offerings are broadcast to the citizens of 50. Its American arm, 3Ball Productions, makes reality shows that range from respectable (The Biggest Loser and Beauty and the Geek) to cringe-inducing (Breaking Bonaduce and Scott Baio Is 45 ... and Single). It produced I Know My Kid's a Star, so it can handle high-maintenance mothers, and it's now casting for Camp Cougar, a show about older women chasing younger men, so clearly it's not afraid of controversy. But the American production house says it has nothing to do with the Suleman deal. (Read a brief history of multiple births.)

That's because the story of the mother of six who suddenly expanded her brood by eight is not being produced for the American market but for another market nearly as robust — the market that enjoys watching Americans being crazy.

Eyeworks, which is still working out the exact details of the deal with Suleman, had its biggest reality hit to date in the U.K. with last year's Half Ton Mum, a one-hour show about Texan Renee Williams, who died at the age of 29, weighing nearly 900 lb. (400 kg). Her two adolescent daughters, Mirina and Mariah, narrated the program.

A few months later, Eyeworks made Half Ton Dad, about the struggles of Kenneth Brumley, a 1,035-lb. (469 kg) 40-year-old father of four, also from Texas, who, unlike Williams, survived well past his bypass surgery. As the Channel 4 promotional material put it: "Half Ton Dad is the story of a father, his family and a country which currently has 15 million morbidly obese citizens."

Neither of these shows aired, unsurprisingly, in the U.S. They present a view of Americans that actual Americans don't find quite so enthralling.

According to Suleman's lawyer, Jeff Czech, her show will be more documentary than reality show, following her eight most recent offspring as they grow, much like Michael Apted's venerated Up series, which has been visiting and filming a cross section of 14 British citizens since they were 7 years old. Eyeworks has a similar franchise in Denmark, Generation 10, which follows four children as they grow up, checking in every three months or so.

But as every reality producer knows, you can never tell exactly what a show will be like before it's filmed. "Whatever comes of the edit bay will set the tone," says Scott Sternberg, an independent producer who has worked on such reality shows as The Chris Isaak Hour, Shootout and The Academy. "If it's produced right, it could be great. Or it could be a train wreck."

If it's a huge hit in Europe, might we see the show Stateside? People in the industry aren't sure there's an appetite for another show about big families, especially one with a single mother. "The big draw of Jon & Kate Plus 8 is the marriage," says Sternberg. "People want to see how that works out. The Octomom doesn't have that." But it looks like she could find a lot of fans overseas.





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Wed 01/06/10 06:57 PM


You've picked one person out of this whole world to jump their bones, as par for the course. No, she didn't want the attention. She had to live with it after her life was plastered all over the media. She said she didn't want for it to happen this way. Find me one instance where she has said differently, and post your source.

Didn't want the attention but a reality show wont get her any attention right.
Uh but that's right she's just doing it to get money to raise money for her kids.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1902269,00.html

The news that Nadya Suleman, also known as the villainous-sounding Octomom, had signed a deal to do a TV show was met with the full spectrum of reactions, from "Haven't we/they suffered enough?" to "Well, that was inevitable" to "I'd rather put my eyes out with claw hammers." But as it turns out, it's unlikely the Suleman brood will be bringing their brand of family entertainment to Stateside TV sets anytime soon. (See the top 10 reality shows.)

The show will be produced out of England by Eyeworks, the third largest independent television producer in the world. Formed in 2001 and based in the Netherlands, it has affiliates in 14 countries, and its offerings are broadcast to the citizens of 50. Its American arm, 3Ball Productions, makes reality shows that range from respectable (The Biggest Loser and Beauty and the Geek) to cringe-inducing (Breaking Bonaduce and Scott Baio Is 45 ... and Single). It produced I Know My Kid's a Star, so it can handle high-maintenance mothers, and it's now casting for Camp Cougar, a show about older women chasing younger men, so clearly it's not afraid of controversy. But the American production house says it has nothing to do with the Suleman deal. (Read a brief history of multiple births.)

That's because the story of the mother of six who suddenly expanded her brood by eight is not being produced for the American market but for another market nearly as robust — the market that enjoys watching Americans being crazy.

Eyeworks, which is still working out the exact details of the deal with Suleman, had its biggest reality hit to date in the U.K. with last year's Half Ton Mum, a one-hour show about Texan Renee Williams, who died at the age of 29, weighing nearly 900 lb. (400 kg). Her two adolescent daughters, Mirina and Mariah, narrated the program.

A few months later, Eyeworks made Half Ton Dad, about the struggles of Kenneth Brumley, a 1,035-lb. (469 kg) 40-year-old father of four, also from Texas, who, unlike Williams, survived well past his bypass surgery. As the Channel 4 promotional material put it: "Half Ton Dad is the story of a father, his family and a country which currently has 15 million morbidly obese citizens."

Neither of these shows aired, unsurprisingly, in the U.S. They present a view of Americans that actual Americans don't find quite so enthralling.

According to Suleman's lawyer, Jeff Czech, her show will be more documentary than reality show, following her eight most recent offspring as they grow, much like Michael Apted's venerated Up series, which has been visiting and filming a cross section of 14 British citizens since they were 7 years old. Eyeworks has a similar franchise in Denmark, Generation 10, which follows four children as they grow up, checking in every three months or so.

But as every reality producer knows, you can never tell exactly what a show will be like before it's filmed. "Whatever comes of the edit bay will set the tone," says Scott Sternberg, an independent producer who has worked on such reality shows as The Chris Isaak Hour, Shootout and The Academy. "If it's produced right, it could be great. Or it could be a train wreck."

If it's a huge hit in Europe, might we see the show Stateside? People in the industry aren't sure there's an appetite for another show about big families, especially one with a single mother. "The big draw of Jon & Kate Plus 8 is the marriage," says Sternberg. "People want to see how that works out. The Octomom doesn't have that." But it looks like she could find a lot of fans overseas.




Not that it is any of my business, I dont care how many kids people choose to have,,but,,,how did she AFFORD this. I am under the impression this is a pretty pricey procedure not usually covered under insurance. I am having a hell of a time getting a much needed hysterectomy because of insurance issues,,,,I would imagine this procedure is much more rare and therefore more costly