Topic: new laptop
dancingchrissy's photo
Thu 12/03/09 02:15 AM
hi peeps could u please help me, im looking for a good multimedia laptop for downloading movies are Acer or Dell the best??

AndrewAV's photo
Thu 12/03/09 02:34 AM
acer is a cheaper brand. i'm typing on one of their netbooks right now. It's definitely not a bad computer, but something from HP would likely be better for multimedia. dell I'm kind of weary of since they have been having issues in the last couple years as a company (lost a lot of market share to HP).

My entire family owns HP laptops...7 total. Not one of them has had an issue and they all do great with movie playback.

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Thu 12/03/09 04:44 AM
I don't know one from another. I have an Acer and, I'm quite pleased with it.

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Thu 12/03/09 07:37 AM

acer is a cheaper brand. i'm typing on one of their netbooks right now. It's definitely not a bad computer, but something from HP would likely be better for multimedia. dell I'm kind of weary of since they have been having issues in the last couple years as a company (lost a lot of market share to HP).

My entire family owns HP laptops...7 total. Not one of them has had an issue and they all do great with movie playback.


Id go with dell since HP has laid off 24,600 US employee's last week, and honestly i will be boycotting them for that...

Ultimately all your machines, dell, sony, gateway, hp, compaq, whatever all use the same internals...

Really what you want is to go for cost, Acer is generally cheap, but if something breaks, i am not sure what kind of support you will get..
Dell has Decent support and i am typing this on a dell laptop that i have owned for over 10 years without an issue, and yes the original Battery still works, and lasts about 4 hours... (Can explain battery maintenance if needed to help yours last forever too)

If you are going to do heavy video, MP3, Or heavy photo work on it... You are going to have to spend more then average, as they all require you to have some decent hardware, if you are going to just watch movies, then you can get away with a no frills cheaper machine.. If you are going to watch movies downloaded to your machine you will want to make sure you have a fast video card, memory, and hard drive...

Best specs for watching downloaded movies..
1. Hard drive, 7200RPM SATA mandatory, if not you will notice skipping.. Also keep in mind size, and weigh out the cause and effect. If you are running windows, windows will index the movies, and movies especially in HD are HUGE, the smallest i have seen is roughly 5gb in size typically 1-1.5hrs long 480P-ED "enhanced Definition", Blue ray movies are 25gb, which means you could have 9 movies and your OS on your machine with a 250GB hard drive before it was full, if you buy a desktop you can get TB (tarabyte) drives cheap, which will hold 36HD movies and your OS, but they are expensive on a laptop.. Your machine will index, which will cause you to be really slow, that is why most downloaded movies should be stored on an external drive, the more space you have filled on a machine, the slower the machine will run, unless you disable indexing, or you use an external drive.
2. 128MB video card Minimal (NOTE:512mb required for HD 1920x1080)
3. 4GB memory PC5200 DDR2 minimal (NOTE: 32bit will not see more then 3.96GB of memory, but laptops share video memory with RAM)
4. Intel Core2duo, speed doesn't much matter, as you will be relying on physical speed, rather then processing power for watching movies stored locally, if you are going to watch them from an external drive make certain your next machine supports USB2.0 or better.
5. 1GB Nic card, or N-Speed wireless, with a supported Router, if not it will take forever to download a movie, this will also help for speed if you are streaming from Hulu or whatnot..
6. Most important, ask yourself if you need this to be portable, because desktops, connected to your HDTV are generally cheaper, and usually are much better at this..
7. Check your contract with your ISP, (Internet service provider) they may charge for bandwidth over a certain amount, and if you are downloading 25+GB's of information daily, you will be paying a ton..

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Thu 12/03/09 12:55 PM


acer is a cheaper brand. i'm typing on one of their netbooks right now. It's definitely not a bad computer, but something from HP would likely be better for multimedia. dell I'm kind of weary of since they have been having issues in the last couple years as a company (lost a lot of market share to HP).

My entire family owns HP laptops...7 total. Not one of them has had an issue and they all do great with movie playback.


Id go with dell since HP has laid off 24,600 US employee's last week, and honestly i will be boycotting them for that...

Ultimately all your machines, dell, sony, gateway, hp, compaq, whatever all use the same internals...

Really what you want is to go for cost, Acer is generally cheap, but if something breaks, i am not sure what kind of support you will get..
Dell has Decent support and i am typing this on a dell laptop that i have owned for over 10 years without an issue, and yes the original Battery still works, and lasts about 4 hours... (Can explain battery maintenance if needed to help yours last forever too)


I really lost all faith in Dell when I called to tell them why my modem was not working. I clarified that I received no CD, had no other computer access, and they just went through their wonderful checklist with a heavy indian accent and told me to open my internet and download the drivers... for the modem.

HP, I actually have talked to someone who english was their native language and they were more than helpful. Dell has pissed me off in every way possible.

Either way, it's true that just about all the internals are made by the same company so really it comes down to price and service. HP was the best mix on that front for me except on my netbook.

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Thu 12/03/09 02:39 PM

I really lost all faith in Dell when I called to tell them why my modem was not working. I clarified that I received no CD, had no other computer access, and they just went through their wonderful checklist with a heavy indian accent and told me to open my internet and download the drivers... for the modem.

HP, I actually have talked to someone who english was their native language and they were more than helpful. Dell has pissed me off in every way possible.

Either way, it's true that just about all the internals are made by the same company so really it comes down to price and service. HP was the best mix on that front for me except on my netbook.


Well, recently Dell was taken back over by the Dell family and has shifted main support back to the US... Now whether or not their employees are heavy Indian or not.. They are in the US, in TX.

I just wont buy HP anymore because a company during the Recession that shifts 24k+ jobs to other countries, not to mention right before the holidays putting all of those people out of work doesn't sound like a company i would want to spend money on...



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Thu 12/03/09 08:11 PM
Edited by AndrewAV on Thu 12/03/09 08:13 PM


I really lost all faith in Dell when I called to tell them why my modem was not working. I clarified that I received no CD, had no other computer access, and they just went through their wonderful checklist with a heavy indian accent and told me to open my internet and download the drivers... for the modem.

HP, I actually have talked to someone who english was their native language and they were more than helpful. Dell has pissed me off in every way possible.

Either way, it's true that just about all the internals are made by the same company so really it comes down to price and service. HP was the best mix on that front for me except on my netbook.


Well, recently Dell was taken back over by the Dell family and has shifted main support back to the US... Now whether or not their employees are heavy Indian or not.. They are in the US, in TX.

I just wont buy HP anymore because a company during the Recession that shifts 24k+ jobs to other countries, not to mention right before the holidays putting all of those people out of work doesn't sound like a company i would want to spend money on...




Well I've studied business (was chasing an MSA for accounting, now information security) and i can understand HP's move. sometimes you have to with the environment businesses are expected to operate in here.

however, it's good to hear dell is back away from total corparate bs ownership. maybe i'll give them another shot. I do need an x64 computer so I can start playing with windows server and exchange.


Oh, and back on topic, seeing the ad at the top reminded me about Lenovo (formerly IBM stuff). They make pretty solid stuff too but I think it's a Chinese company now so I have no idea how service is. I could be wrong.

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Thu 12/03/09 10:42 PM


Well I've studied business (was chasing an MSA for accounting, now information security) and i can understand HP's move. sometimes you have to with the environment businesses are expected to operate in here.

however, it's good to hear dell is back away from total corparate bs ownership. maybe i'll give them another shot. I do need an x64 computer so I can start playing with windows server and exchange.


Oh, and back on topic, seeing the ad at the top reminded me about Lenovo (formerly IBM stuff). They make pretty solid stuff too but I think it's a Chinese company now so I have no idea how service is. I could be wrong.


IBM,(lenovo) did make solid machines... Their laptops have had issues with the power connector, (dubbed the name stinkpad) however since they have become Chinese they have terrible support... I would definitely stand clear of them at this point... (aside from their servers, which retain the US support on tier 2 or higher)

Exchange supports the old skool AMD64 processors.. Just to save you some money, you may want to just buy a used AMD64 athalon machine..
You can get them pretty cheap, Im running one now with a 2k7 exchange setup.. (paid 150.00 for it, and 100.00 for an additional 2gb of memory)
Just dont go IA-64 as exchange wont run on them..


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Thu 12/03/09 11:17 PM



Well I've studied business (was chasing an MSA for accounting, now information security) and i can understand HP's move. sometimes you have to with the environment businesses are expected to operate in here.

however, it's good to hear dell is back away from total corparate bs ownership. maybe i'll give them another shot. I do need an x64 computer so I can start playing with windows server and exchange.


Oh, and back on topic, seeing the ad at the top reminded me about Lenovo (formerly IBM stuff). They make pretty solid stuff too but I think it's a Chinese company now so I have no idea how service is. I could be wrong.


IBM,(lenovo) did make solid machines... Their laptops have had issues with the power connector, (dubbed the name stinkpad) however since they have become Chinese they have terrible support... I would definitely stand clear of them at this point... (aside from their servers, which retain the US support on tier 2 or higher)

Exchange supports the old skool AMD64 processors.. Just to save you some money, you may want to just buy a used AMD64 athalon machine..
You can get them pretty cheap, Im running one now with a 2k7 exchange setup.. (paid 150.00 for it, and 100.00 for an additional 2gb of memory)
Just dont go IA-64 as exchange wont run on them..




Cool... I was looking into the intel stuff and I don't have $2k to shell out for a decent new one. That AMD might just be the ticket.

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Fri 12/04/09 08:40 AM

hi peeps could u please help me, im looking for a good multimedia laptop for downloading movies are Acer or Dell the best??


You need to invest in memory and video/sound card along with a large hard drive. The speed of your video card will be a big factor in your movie performance, overall processor speed will matter, but you do not need super blazing speed. As of what brand, you should look at warranty possibilities that suit your needs and how their customer service is. As of computer brands Hp, acer, dell etc, each computer model has it's differences and you cannot compare broad brands that easily. Sometimes one dell will have a cheap chipset and another dell with have a higher end chipset, whereas the vice can be true for other brands too. All I know is hp is pretty good when it comes to honoring warranties.

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Fri 12/04/09 02:26 PM




Well I've studied business (was chasing an MSA for accounting, now information security) and i can understand HP's move. sometimes you have to with the environment businesses are expected to operate in here.

however, it's good to hear dell is back away from total corparate bs ownership. maybe i'll give them another shot. I do need an x64 computer so I can start playing with windows server and exchange.


Oh, and back on topic, seeing the ad at the top reminded me about Lenovo (formerly IBM stuff). They make pretty solid stuff too but I think it's a Chinese company now so I have no idea how service is. I could be wrong.


IBM,(lenovo) did make solid machines... Their laptops have had issues with the power connector, (dubbed the name stinkpad) however since they have become Chinese they have terrible support... I would definitely stand clear of them at this point... (aside from their servers, which retain the US support on tier 2 or higher)

Exchange supports the old skool AMD64 processors.. Just to save you some money, you may want to just buy a used AMD64 athalon machine..
You can get them pretty cheap, Im running one now with a 2k7 exchange setup.. (paid 150.00 for it, and 100.00 for an additional 2gb of memory)
Just dont go IA-64 as exchange wont run on them..




Cool... I was looking into the intel stuff and I don't have $2k to shell out for a decent new one. That AMD might just be the ticket.


Def dont shell out that much for a test machine..
Go to www.microcenter.com they have used AMD based machines, and usually for a sub 200.00 price.. thats where i got mine... although im fairly possitive at this point you can ebay a new Athalon 64 and buy a new board for less then 200 bucks anyway...
Just a thought..
If you are looking new, you can get a Turion 64 for about 500 bucks in a toshiba laptop with 2gb of ram.. just toss the Vista crap out, and through on 2k8 server and 2k7 exchange..
I really dont know how well it will run, but hell my athalon 64 runs good, so how bad could it be? Toshiba laptops are great, but their LCD's seem to crap out prematurely, they don't die, they fade.. and they have cooling issues, which will light your nuts on fire, but aside from that, they really use some high end hardware... Board is MSI, Memory is Kingston, HD is western digital, LCD is Toshiba... which if anything tells you, you may wanna stay clear of their LCD TV's, odd thing is the processors in their laptops are the same as the Desktops processor, and have huge heatsink and cooling fans.. (flat and wide) They are the only ones i have seen like that.. which may be the reason for the LCD death, heat ya know?

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Fri 12/04/09 03:22 PM





Well I've studied business (was chasing an MSA for accounting, now information security) and i can understand HP's move. sometimes you have to with the environment businesses are expected to operate in here.

however, it's good to hear dell is back away from total corparate bs ownership. maybe i'll give them another shot. I do need an x64 computer so I can start playing with windows server and exchange.


Oh, and back on topic, seeing the ad at the top reminded me about Lenovo (formerly IBM stuff). They make pretty solid stuff too but I think it's a Chinese company now so I have no idea how service is. I could be wrong.


IBM,(lenovo) did make solid machines... Their laptops have had issues with the power connector, (dubbed the name stinkpad) however since they have become Chinese they have terrible support... I would definitely stand clear of them at this point... (aside from their servers, which retain the US support on tier 2 or higher)

Exchange supports the old skool AMD64 processors.. Just to save you some money, you may want to just buy a used AMD64 athalon machine..
You can get them pretty cheap, Im running one now with a 2k7 exchange setup.. (paid 150.00 for it, and 100.00 for an additional 2gb of memory)
Just dont go IA-64 as exchange wont run on them..




Cool... I was looking into the intel stuff and I don't have $2k to shell out for a decent new one. That AMD might just be the ticket.


Def dont shell out that much for a test machine..
Go to www.microcenter.com they have used AMD based machines, and usually for a sub 200.00 price.. thats where i got mine... although im fairly possitive at this point you can ebay a new Athalon 64 and buy a new board for less then 200 bucks anyway...
Just a thought..
If you are looking new, you can get a Turion 64 for about 500 bucks in a toshiba laptop with 2gb of ram.. just toss the Vista crap out, and through on 2k8 server and 2k7 exchange..
I really dont know how well it will run, but hell my athalon 64 runs good, so how bad could it be? Toshiba laptops are great, but their LCD's seem to crap out prematurely, they don't die, they fade.. and they have cooling issues, which will light your nuts on fire, but aside from that, they really use some high end hardware... Board is MSI, Memory is Kingston, HD is western digital, LCD is Toshiba... which if anything tells you, you may wanna stay clear of their LCD TV's, odd thing is the processors in their laptops are the same as the Desktops processor, and have huge heatsink and cooling fans.. (flat and wide) They are the only ones i have seen like that.. which may be the reason for the LCD death, heat ya know?


I just hit up pricewatch and worked out a couple Athlon II setups for under $500 with 2TB storage. The secondary reason I want to upgrade my old server (now running ubuntu server 8.something) is that i get the MS stuff for free (student programs for IT rock!) but I need an x64 architecture. More importantly, I need space. I do photography and those RAW files fill up drives fast.

$500 is about what I was looking to go for because I needed a new laptop. however, my scholarship is buying me a 15" Macbook pro when the new ones come out in a month or two. That means I can afford to upgrade my editing desktop (for photoshop - i7, 1.8GB geforce, and 16 GB ram here I come) and still get a server or get the badass server. i'm going option #1. happy times for me drinker

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Fri 12/04/09 03:44 PM

I just hit up pricewatch and worked out a couple Athlon II setups for under $500 with 2TB storage. The secondary reason I want to upgrade my old server (now running ubuntu server 8.something) is that i get the MS stuff for free (student programs for IT rock!) but I need an x64 architecture. More importantly, I need space. I do photography and those RAW files fill up drives fast.

$500 is about what I was looking to go for because I needed a new laptop. however, my scholarship is buying me a 15" Macbook pro when the new ones come out in a month or two. That means I can afford to upgrade my editing desktop (for photoshop - i7, 1.8GB geforce, and 16 GB ram here I come) and still get a server or get the badass server. i'm going option #1. happy times for me drinker


Andrew,
You may want to dual boot it, or setup VM on it.. only reason why is LARGE files on Windows has a tendency of slowing things down greatly..
Indexing etc..
Check out ESX-I from VM-Ware you have to setup a profile on their site but ESX-I is free... Also look at SUN microsystems VirtualBox which is a VMWare freebe that runs on Ubuntu, and you can Run Windows 2k8 server and exchange virtually... Might be easier..

Im all for microsoft.. Im MCSE, MCITP and working to MCM.. but Linux still is a much better file server... and Apache is also Killer compared to IIS.. Damn DCOM issues... HA!


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Fri 12/04/09 03:49 PM


I just hit up pricewatch and worked out a couple Athlon II setups for under $500 with 2TB storage. The secondary reason I want to upgrade my old server (now running ubuntu server 8.something) is that i get the MS stuff for free (student programs for IT rock!) but I need an x64 architecture. More importantly, I need space. I do photography and those RAW files fill up drives fast.

$500 is about what I was looking to go for because I needed a new laptop. however, my scholarship is buying me a 15" Macbook pro when the new ones come out in a month or two. That means I can afford to upgrade my editing desktop (for photoshop - i7, 1.8GB geforce, and 16 GB ram here I come) and still get a server or get the badass server. i'm going option #1. happy times for me drinker


Andrew,
You may want to dual boot it, or setup VM on it.. only reason why is LARGE files on Windows has a tendency of slowing things down greatly..
Indexing etc..
Check out ESX-I from VM-Ware you have to setup a profile on their site but ESX-I is free... Also look at SUN microsystems VirtualBox which is a VMWare freebe that runs on Ubuntu, and you can Run Windows 2k8 server and exchange virtually... Might be easier..

Im all for microsoft.. Im MCSE, MCITP and working to MCM.. but Linux still is a much better file server... and Apache is also Killer compared to IIS.. Damn DCOM issues... HA!




I just realized that ubuntu now has an x64 version and it's 9.1 now. I may just have to dual-boot. The MS stuff is really just for learning the programs for when I get this other degree i'm at least familiar with them. i really love the LAMP style with ubuntu though. a basic install and it's all set - slow as all hell computer (10 years old now) and it still runs like a champ.