Topic: vegitarians are hipocrites.. lol
krupa's photo
Mon 11/30/09 04:19 PM

You are right.

Plants are living things so we kill to eat.


Oh man.....murder tastes soooooooo good.....especially with garlic butter or teriyaki........(doing my wookie roar) aaaarrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

lulu24's photo
Mon 11/30/09 04:25 PM


You are right.

Plants are living things so we kill to eat.


Oh man.....murder tastes soooooooo good.....especially with garlic butter or teriyaki........(doing my wookie roar) aaaarrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh
not all plants die for us to eat them. i can eat tomatoes all day, or cucumbers...or corn...and the plant doesn't die because of it.

krupa's photo
Mon 11/30/09 04:27 PM



You are right.

Plants are living things so we kill to eat.


Oh man.....murder tastes soooooooo good.....especially with garlic butter or teriyaki........(doing my wookie roar) aaaarrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh
not all plants die for us to eat them. i can eat tomatoes all day, or cucumbers...or corn...and the plant doesn't die because of it.


Use a bigger gun!

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Mon 11/30/09 04:29 PM

Either or...you're killing something. Can't use that justification if you also kill something. As soon as the plants root is pulled it dies, slowly, no less...cows get killed for beef, which isn't slow, figures as much...


Exactly...it's the food chain. Originally humans were hunters...we had to eat something. The thing humans had to eat had to be killed whether it be animal or plant.

wannacuddlewthme's photo
Mon 11/30/09 04:32 PM
Medium rare please

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Mon 11/30/09 06:12 PM
Everything lives at the expense of another living thing.
We all eat something.

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Mon 11/30/09 06:13 PM
Edited by FearandLoathing on Mon 11/30/09 06:14 PM


Either or...you're killing something. Can't use that justification if you also kill something. As soon as the plants root is pulled it dies, slowly, no less...cows get killed for beef, which isn't slow, figures as much...


Exactly...it's the food chain. Originally humans were hunters...we had to eat something. The thing humans had to eat had to be killed whether it be animal or plant.


I'm not trying to down the choice of a vegan or whatever, just don't use backwards logic to justify your action as if you are high and mighty and I'm small and awkward in comparison. Even pulling a tomatoe from the plant is killing the tomatoe. Fish breed like crazy for the most part, there isn't much damage being done by eating a few...same goes for cattle, deer, so on and so forth.

I don't care what you eat, just the same you shouldn't care what I eat.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 11/30/09 07:43 PM

Pretty soon discussion of meat eating vs. vegans/vegitarians is going to go the way of "religion, politics and money" taboo to discuss.. bigsmile


Seems so, with just about everything as of late.

MelodyGirl's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:00 PM

i had quite a funny debate at college so i thought i should share it with everyone here
Today i was with my group of friends and were talking about stuff when all of a sudden we were divided into 2 groups the vegetarians and the non-vegetarians i being with the non veg one
i made the point that the animals we eat from the market are created(ie breed on farms) and then consumed it's not like they are hunted and are approaching extinction
The counter argument was that creating (again breeding) a living thing doesn't give us the right to kill it
at this point my friend said that every vegetable is also a living plant at one stage we grow it, kill it and eat it, also it's just easy to say that killing animals is wrong but we kill plant's also each day killing them is just easier to look at and therefore all vegetarians who don’t eat meat because you think killing animals is cruel should know this that every crop also suffers death also they have feeling's also so either starve to death or shut up and let us eat meat if it doesn’t disturb the ecological order

What are your views on this issue?



You are in college? Your writing skills do not reflect that fact. At some point you should have learned that persuasive arguments are more successful if you write correctly!

I couldn't even make it through your rambled mess of a topic.

I know you made a sweeping generalization about vegetarians. That is not an educated action. As you learn and grow-up -- you will realize this is not an intelligent concept to possess.

I grew up on a working ranch. I ate meat.

We sold that part of the ranch and I stopped eating commercial meat because of the hormones, injections, and dyes. I still understand farm animals can feed and cloth people.

I hate the idea of hunting but it's necessary to keep the animals from starving and it also keeps the eco-system balanced.

Not all vegetarians are out to change the world, throw red paint on fur or stab you with a fork if you eat meat. Some, however, will lose respect for those that lump us in the same pile.

wux's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:01 PM
Edited by wux on Mon 11/30/09 08:13 PM




I am not a vegetarian, but only because I do eat chicken, beef, pork. But what is funny to me is when I go out to eat, and I order a vegetable plate. I sometimes just want that, and it never fails. I order, I either get looks or am asked, "Are you a Vegetarian?" shocked scared :laughing:

It's like vegetarians have cooties or something.slaphead :laughing:


I just think its because people are not used to seeing vegetarians (knowingly). It is much more the average to eat more of a selection of foods.I think if the average person were vegetarians, omnivores would be getting the same reaction.

Yeah, kind of silly to try to sell people on what YOU want to eat. I say eat what you want for whatever reasons you want. Live well and be happy. Vegetarians can be healthy or unhealthy like any other person. Just chose what works for YOUR body and your palate and let others be happy.

Dont ya just hate those people that want to tell you all the doom and gloom stories about anything you chose to put into your mouth..lol?


I dated this girl who, everytime I ate deer meat she would say. "You are eating Bambi's mom". I finally had enough one night when she said this and responded with, "Well, you ate some of Bessy the cow the other night, and I didn't hear you say anything about that!" She shut up from then on out.laugh
that's actually reeeeeally close to how i became a vegetarian. except it was my mom, and it was HER giving me a hard time about NOT eating the deer.


Exuse me??? You were eating the flesh of your OWN MOM???...!!!!

I guess you're both a vegetarian AND a humanitarian.

MelodyGirl's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:04 PM

you forgot the vegetarians that wear leather, leather furniture, purses, car seats and so on!:tongue:

To them, we should just kill them, take their skin and leave the dead rotting carcass on the grounddevil laugh

Forget cornflakes..blahhhhhhh
give me sausage and eggs, and a side order of bacon:banana: :banana: :banana:


Vegans are the only vegetarians that won't wear leather or consume animal protein; not even honey.

Lacto/ova vegetarians will wear leather and consume animal base protein like milk (lacto), eggs (ova), dairy, honey, beef bullion (stock), etc. No flesh is the difference.

I am lacto/ova. I am also again the fur trade. I will, however, throw my veggie skewers on the BBQ after a steak was cooked. YUM!

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Mon 11/30/09 08:05 PM
Where's the beef?.....

wux's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:06 PM
Op: ditch those friends. They will never convince you, you will never convince them. On this topic all debate is futile.

If you don't ditch them, they will ditch you.

How can their children marry your children? What will your grandchildren eat? Snow? Yellow snow? Rocks? Yellowstone?

MelodyGirl's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:07 PM
Edited by MelodyGirl on Mon 11/30/09 08:17 PM

[snip]we were divided into 2 groups the vegetarians and the non-vegetarians[...] What are your views on this issue?


I'm a pescatarian. Why? The main reason is because my
live-in girlfriend at the time was a pescatarian - it
just made things easier when going out to eat or when
fixing meals at home. She eventually moved away (about
6 years ago), but I have continued the diet.

It turns out "the other reason" is for for health reasons.
I noticed within a couple of weeks, I started to feel
better, which is why I've continued the diet (I've never
considered being pescatarian to "save" any animals).



Pescatarians are not actually vegetarians. If you eat flesh, you are not a vegetarian; this includes fish.

There are two official categories: vegan and lacto/ova

Also listed are other subtext vegetarians but officially still not vegetarians.

Geez, it gets so complicated! slaphead Just eat, right? :laughing:

http://vegetarian.about.com/od/glossary/g/Pescatarian.htm




BYondLife's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:09 PM

First of all you might want to check your grammar. This whole post appears to be one long sentence, but thats not my point. You know there are other reasons for not eating meat. Who told you that eating meat doesn't disturb the ecoligical order? What about all the deforestation in Brazil due to cattle herding? There are dire consequences for the planet if illegal deforestation associated with the beef and leather industries is not stopped because the Amazon rainforests absorb and hold huge quantities of carbon pollution. Not to mention the levels of Methane gas when cattle are mass produced. Sure, you could argue that the amount of pesticides and fertilizers seeping into our rivers and water supply are at dangerous levels and its true. However you're the one lashing out at us and the real culprits are the mega multi- national corporations that are reaping what we sow.

Ask your self this: Would you be prepared to work in a slaughterhouse and kill the animals you eat?

My point is there is more involved in this topic than you and I listed.


Funny thing is, I did work in a butcher shop/slaughter house.
I still love meat. Which isn't to say I'm heartless, it's just saying I never made a distinct 'relationship' with the animals there.

Another odd thing about veggies, is that when they order out in, let's say, an italian restaurant (like my friends) they order pasta of some sort, but what cracks me up is that they don't realize half the sauces made in restaurants are cooked in a meat concoction, although it's not always in the final product, it is sometimes (no, not always) made with meat originally.

I understand vegetarianism (is that even a word and, if so, did I spell it right?) and the ideas associated with it; but at the same time, most of the vegans I've met are also highly religious... didn't they like sacrifice a lamb or something for that supper thing?

Either way, I'm not against it. To each their own, eh.

But no offense, I love steak...
..but that's just me..

wux's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:10 PM
Edited by wux on Mon 11/30/09 08:13 PM
Oh, since we are all confessing: I neither lactate nor oviate, so I guess I am not what that blonde is. Men tend to dictate.




wux's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:11 PM
Edited by wux on Mon 11/30/09 08:12 PM
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IndnPrncs's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:13 PM
oh damn where's the popcorn? You done dug a hole and didn't even need a shovel.. scared

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Mon 11/30/09 08:14 PM
All our addictions come from plants i.e. Alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, marijuana etc. plants want us to consume them??

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Mon 11/30/09 08:14 PM