Topic: Nephilim.... Is it Possible?
Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 11/25/09 08:49 AM
Watched this today and found it quite interesting thier thoughts and views about UFO's today and Nephilims.

Is it possible this could be what and why we are seeing UFO's now?

Why antient hyrogriphics seem to show UFO's and Aliens?

I do not know. It is a interesting thought of the Why, who and where Aliens are from.

What do u think?..Blessings...Miles


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5841396592020661354&ei=kVUNS5WLHaKAqwLc8JnIBA&q=armageddon#docid=-1054806571822240020

Peccy's photo
Wed 11/25/09 09:16 AM
It would explain the pyramids better, who knows.

jrbogie's photo
Wed 11/25/09 03:25 PM
folks, the "u" in ufo stands for "unidentified". it means just that. the flying aircraft was unidentified meaning there's no reason to believe that it's occupied by aliens from another world. jeez.

indigohammer's photo
Wed 11/25/09 03:49 PM
People, the Nephilim as depicted in Genesis were not so different from us that they could not reproduce with people. Some people believe they were Demons or Fallen Angels ...

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 11/25/09 05:16 PM

folks, the "u" in ufo stands for "unidentified". it means just that. the flying aircraft was unidentified meaning there's no reason to believe that it's occupied by aliens from another world. jeez.



The question is about the Nephilins that was recorded in Genesis whether they could account for alien beings and spacecraft that seems to be drawn 1000's of years ago in many cultures could this be what people are seeing and experiencing in the modern day UFO sightings.

Just viewpoints what do u think.

The video link i posted is 20 some minutes long and personally I found interesting what they have found and theories they try to explain.

not that me or u may or may not believe it but I am interested in different view points and what they think of the video's view point.


Thier is safety in numbers as thier is wisdom in hearing all sides before we make our own deduction to what all this mmeans.. Blessings...Miles

Peccy's photo
Thu 11/26/09 04:13 AM

folks, the "u" in ufo stands for "unidentified". it means just that. the flying aircraft was unidentified meaning there's no reason to believe that it's occupied by aliens from another world. jeez.
The "o" also means object, not aircraft. Since you are tearing the meanings of things...........lol jeez

jrbogie's photo
Thu 11/26/09 05:24 AM


folks, the "u" in ufo stands for "unidentified". it means just that. the flying aircraft was unidentified meaning there's no reason to believe that it's occupied by aliens from another world. jeez.
The "o" also means object, not aircraft. Since you are tearing the meanings of things...........lol jeez


silly me. you're right of course. the pilot in me that thinks if it flies in the air of the earth's atmosphere, it's usually called an aircraft. eitherway, it's unidentified huh?

causality's photo
Mon 11/30/09 08:53 PM
Edited by causality on Mon 11/30/09 09:13 PM
I think that the Nephilim interference in human history helps explain the double helix (twistee-tie) way that human DNA is put together. It's rather unique among all of the animals on Earth. Animal DNA doesn't twist in the double helix manner as ours does. (I think. I'm not exactly a genetic engineer.) Now how would alien DNA intermingling with our own (Humanity's) affect the breeding and lineages of humankind? I would not guess at what it would do, other than it would most assuredly do SOMETHING.

no photo
Mon 01/24/11 01:28 AM
Post in regards to the Nephilim

There is certainly ample evidence to support the existence the Nephilim. That is, if in questioning on the Nephilim your principal intention lies in the possibility of their physical existence, which is to say an inquiry into the historical precedent for the existence of giants. In that case, there is certainly ample evidence to support their existence and more to that effect, the existence of such race in the neighborhood of the Neareast around the same time period as the kingship of Saul and the battle with Goliath.

The dimensions of the Nephilim are never actually laid out. Tradition leads us to assume a massive figure of the dimensions of Polyphemus eating cattle like they're mcnuggets, but that's not actually supported by the text. In the text the Nephilim are just big. Which is to say if you are a lanky five foot tall Israelite and you find yourself facing a man who's six foot six and built like a freight train you might be inclined to call that man a giant.

This attribute is ascribed to the Mycenaeans. The heroes of the Iliad are all describes as unusually large. That may be rhetoric, but it does possess a certain authentic quality. Around one thousand B.C. the Heraclidae returned to Greece after years of exile. They destroyed the Mycenaean civilization along the way and kicked off the Greek Dark Ages, which would be the way of things with their funky Doric figurines and sparsity of writing on until the dawn of the Classical period. Question: what happened to the Mycenaeans then?

A theory that I'm rather fond of is that they became the Philistines. The Philistines are referred to as of great stature in the First Book of Samuel. There is also confirmation of this from their neighbors in Assyria and Babylon. More importantly, the Philistines were very well organized for a people who just stumbled off the boat. Almost like they had an organized system already in place when they made landfall and built up their confederacy... either through being Mycenaeans themselves or through integrating the Mycenaean system into an existent Philistine culture à la Aeneas and the Latins.

In any event, they were most likely merely a race of men who were slightly larger than their neighbors. The ascription of their descent from fallen angels sound suspiciously like old school racism to me. Most of the Old Testament passages that deal with these events were written not too long after the time of David. The idea of the scribes remembering this race of men who were gigantic and twenty different kinds of nasty, then of course they would perceive them as descended of some form of evil, the only one being extant at that time the b'anai ha Elohim.

If your question is in reference to Scripture, as to whether the Nephilim are actually the sons of fallen angels, as the above indicates I'm inclined to say 'no', that's most likely an old notion that found its way into Scripture. Kind of like the parts that talk about the place of women and the status of slaves. More descriptive of the period in which is was written than prescriptive of contemporary mores.

As to the aliens, that's more mythological than anything and as such is subject to your faith tales of abduction and not something that would greatly benefit reasoned debate with one who lacks faith. I would observe a few points in the video that seem suspect to me, as a classicist and amateur philologist, in the main because I get irritated when I see UFO theorists trying to bend the facts to support their vision of an alien armageddon.

The Egyptians are not going to offer any reasonable proof for aliens. Stargate sounds great in theory, but when you actually start chewing over the primary sources all you come up with is a lot of work and few results. A hieroglyph, for instance, cannot indicate a flying saucer. Any hieroglyph that looks like a flying saucer could just as easily be indicative of pita bread or a plate.

Egyptian art is not viable as an indicator of the existence of Nephilim in particular or giants in general. The rhetoric of imagery in Egyptian arts tends to use size as an indicator of importance. A pharaoh as a god is always portrayed as unusually large beside mortals, subjects, slaves, and a conquered foe. The film also tries to slip in images of stele from Assyria and Babylon as support for their vision of alien hybrids, when there is no critical support even offered for that position. It almost seems like the director just googled for ancient stele depicting large men and wrote them in as evidence.

Furthermore, pyramids are an evolution that develops from temple mounds and ziggurats over the course of centuries. (We know this because the earlier constructions are still standing, just not popular with tourists or documentary crews given way out the middle of nowhere.) The rhetoric of the architecture would seem to indicate an artificial mountain or womb. A long time passes before the kind of mathematical skill of the Giza pyramids is evident. Similarities with megalithic structures outside of the Neareastern tradition is stretching the facts. In Mesoamerica, for instance, the entrance to a pyramid is always at the top, from which the lord can stand and look down over the jungle. The entrance of an Egyptian pyramid is always at the bottom, with the actual tomb lying belowground, where it is most difficult to plunder. Giza pyramids were made at sharp angles. Mesoamericans were made in a step pattern. At Giza the only adornment is a golden point. In Mesoamerica the pyramids have a whole series of adornments, plus a staircase. That kind of variance suggests that the use of a pyramid structure is relative to the universality of the math and imagery more than a shared inspiration from alien sources.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 01/24/11 01:35 PM

Post in regards to the Nephilim

There is certainly ample evidence to support the existence the Nephilim. That is, if in questioning on the Nephilim your principal intention lies in the possibility of their physical existence, which is to say an inquiry into the historical precedent for the existence of giants. In that case, there is certainly ample evidence to support their existence and more to that effect, the existence of such race in the neighborhood of the Neareast around the same time period as the kingship of Saul and the battle with Goliath.

The dimensions of the Nephilim are never actually laid out. Tradition leads us to assume a massive figure of the dimensions of Polyphemus eating cattle like they're mcnuggets, but that's not actually supported by the text. In the text the Nephilim are just big. Which is to say if you are a lanky five foot tall Israelite and you find yourself facing a man who's six foot six and built like a freight train you might be inclined to call that man a giant.

This attribute is ascribed to the Mycenaeans. The heroes of the Iliad are all describes as unusually large. That may be rhetoric, but it does possess a certain authentic quality. Around one thousand B.C. the Heraclidae returned to Greece after years of exile. They destroyed the Mycenaean civilization along the way and kicked off the Greek Dark Ages, which would be the way of things with their funky Doric figurines and sparsity of writing on until the dawn of the Classical period. Question: what happened to the Mycenaeans then?

A theory that I'm rather fond of is that they became the Philistines. The Philistines are referred to as of great stature in the First Book of Samuel. There is also confirmation of this from their neighbors in Assyria and Babylon. More importantly, the Philistines were very well organized for a people who just stumbled off the boat. Almost like they had an organized system already in place when they made landfall and built up their confederacy... either through being Mycenaeans themselves or through integrating the Mycenaean system into an existent Philistine culture à la Aeneas and the Latins.

In any event, they were most likely merely a race of men who were slightly larger than their neighbors. The ascription of their descent from fallen angels sound suspiciously like old school racism to me. Most of the Old Testament passages that deal with these events were written not too long after the time of David. The idea of the scribes remembering this race of men who were gigantic and twenty different kinds of nasty, then of course they would perceive them as descended of some form of evil, the only one being extant at that time the b'anai ha Elohim.

If your question is in reference to Scripture, as to whether the Nephilim are actually the sons of fallen angels, as the above indicates I'm inclined to say 'no', that's most likely an old notion that found its way into Scripture. Kind of like the parts that talk about the place of women and the status of slaves. More descriptive of the period in which is was written than prescriptive of contemporary mores.

As to the aliens, that's more mythological than anything and as such is subject to your faith tales of abduction and not something that would greatly benefit reasoned debate with one who lacks faith. I would observe a few points in the video that seem suspect to me, as a classicist and amateur philologist, in the main because I get irritated when I see UFO theorists trying to bend the facts to support their vision of an alien armageddon.

The Egyptians are not going to offer any reasonable proof for aliens. Stargate sounds great in theory, but when you actually start chewing over the primary sources all you come up with is a lot of work and few results. A hieroglyph, for instance, cannot indicate a flying saucer. Any hieroglyph that looks like a flying saucer could just as easily be indicative of pita bread or a plate.

Egyptian art is not viable as an indicator of the existence of Nephilim in particular or giants in general. The rhetoric of imagery in Egyptian arts tends to use size as an indicator of importance. A pharaoh as a god is always portrayed as unusually large beside mortals, subjects, slaves, and a conquered foe. The film also tries to slip in images of stele from Assyria and Babylon as support for their vision of alien hybrids, when there is no critical support even offered for that position. It almost seems like the director just googled for ancient stele depicting large men and wrote them in as evidence.

Furthermore, pyramids are an evolution that develops from temple mounds and ziggurats over the course of centuries. (We know this because the earlier constructions are still standing, just not popular with tourists or documentary crews given way out the middle of nowhere.) The rhetoric of the architecture would seem to indicate an artificial mountain or womb. A long time passes before the kind of mathematical skill of the Giza pyramids is evident. Similarities with megalithic structures outside of the Neareastern tradition is stretching the facts. In Mesoamerica, for instance, the entrance to a pyramid is always at the top, from which the lord can stand and look down over the jungle. The entrance of an Egyptian pyramid is always at the bottom, with the actual tomb lying belowground, where it is most difficult to plunder. Giza pyramids were made at sharp angles. Mesoamericans were made in a step pattern. At Giza the only adornment is a golden point. In Mesoamerica the pyramids have a whole series of adornments, plus a staircase. That kind of variance suggests that the use of a pyramid structure is relative to the universality of the math and imagery more than a shared inspiration from alien sources.

Thanks.. Very interesting view..I also find Nephilems difficult to see as Fallen Angels as Yahshua said about the woman who had 7 husbands. You do not understand he said thier is no marraige or giving in marraige in the Angelic kingdom.
Those 4 or five giants I saw pictures of supposedly dug up not to long ago with huge hands and feet being 10 to 12 feet tall all laying in graves right next to each other. is a sight to be seen. looks so real. I do not know of any people now or ever that were this tall. Definately giants by any stretch of the imagination but very hard to tell if this marches nephilims or anyone else.. Blessings of Shalom..Miles

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Mon 01/24/11 04:08 PM
Friend of mine actually emailed me those photos. She was all smug about it till I pointed the shadows were out of sync.

I remember reading a paper or contribution to a book by a biologist who pointed out that there's a cutoff for how far you can stretch an organism's size. Like a giant ant, for instance, wouldn't work, cause they don't have the diaphragm to draw air into their lungs when the molecules get that small relative to their size. I can see a similar problem emerging for hypothetical giants ranging from arthritis and circulatory problems to the weight of beer bellies surpassing the strength of muscle tissue.

Even so, international news agencies jump for talk about ritzy dinosaur finds or the uncovering of the frozen neanderthal remains. If evidence ever surfaced of the Nephilim it would hit all of the major news networks in a big way, probably even before they got the bones out the ground.