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Topic: Smurfs are they Real?
NovaRoma's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:25 PM
Smurf people are fascinating group of forest dwellers. Everyone knows they hate magicians and cats. How they perpetuate their existence with only one female is a little disturbing.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:28 PM
I find quite a few things about the smurfs a little disturbing...laugh

LadyOfMagic's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:30 PM
I find this thread disturbing..lol

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:34 PM
He's making a point..I get it Nova..I read your post about the subject matter..etc.

point taken :smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:51 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 11/24/09 11:51 PM


Karl Marx stated, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs". In this regard, the Smurf Village and its inhabitants indeed represent Marx's dream for a utopian society. Each Smurf has a specific job to do for the benefit of the community, each Smurf is provided the same clothes, and each Smurf eats at the communal table. Although many claim the word "Smurf" stands for "Socialist Men Under a Red Father", this cannot be true - the Smurfs have passed the Socialist phase of Marx's design and entered its final stage - Communism


http://bluebuddies.com/help/smurfs_rumors_and_speculation.htm

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:53 PM

I find quite a few things about the smurfs a little disturbing...laugh


why??? because smurfette was the only female and then all of a sudden there was a baby???? laugh

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:54 PM



Karl Marx stated, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs". In this regard, the Smurf Village and its inhabitants indeed represent Marx's dream for a utopian society. Each Smurf has a specific job to do for the benefit of the community, each Smurf is provided the same clothes, and each Smurf eats at the communal table. Although many claim the word "Smurf" stands for "Socialist Men Under a Red Father", this cannot be true - the Smurfs have passed the Socialist phase of Marx's design and entered its final stage - Communism


http://bluebuddies.com/help/smurfs_rumors_and_speculation.htm


oh my...all the things going on in the world, now we need to worry about the smurfs...gawd, it's the end of the world. Repent, Repent, Repent!

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:54 PM


I find quite a few things about the smurfs a little disturbing...laugh


why??? because smurfette was the only female and then all of a sudden there was a baby???? laugh
flowerforyou The man who created the smurfs was sexist and had a low opinion of women.flowerforyou

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:55 PM
Well, at least he picked a cool color...

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:56 PM




Karl Marx stated, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs". In this regard, the Smurf Village and its inhabitants indeed represent Marx's dream for a utopian society. Each Smurf has a specific job to do for the benefit of the community, each Smurf is provided the same clothes, and each Smurf eats at the communal table. Although many claim the word "Smurf" stands for "Socialist Men Under a Red Father", this cannot be true - the Smurfs have passed the Socialist phase of Marx's design and entered its final stage - Communism


http://bluebuddies.com/help/smurfs_rumors_and_speculation.htm


oh my...all the things going on in the world, now we need to worry about the smurfs...gawd, it's the end of the world. Repent, Repent, Repent!


The Smurf Village as a Marxist Utopia:
The Smurf Village itself is a perfect model of a socialist commune or collective. It is self-reliant, and the land is not owned by individuals, but by the entire collective of all the Smurfs, if the word 'owned' is even appropriate.

Papa Smurf represents Karl Marx. He is not so much the leader of the Smurfs as an equal revered by the others for his age and wisdom. He has a beard, as did Marx, and thus could conceivably be a caricature as well. And lastly, he wears red, which is the traditional colour of socialism. Brainy Smurf could represent Trotsky. He is the only one in the village who comes close to matching Papa's intellect - he is a thinker. With his round spectacles, he could also be a caricature of Trotsky. He is often isolated, ridiculed or even ejected from the commune of the village for his ideas. And of course, Trotsky was banished from the USSR.

Despite their different professions/distinctions, the Smurfs are all completely equal. Thus, while the occupations of certain Smurfs, such as Farmer, Handy and Greedy, are more important than others, such as Clumsy, Grouchy, or Lazy, there is no feeling that certain Smurfs are superior or inferior to others because of their work, or level of skill, because ultimately, everyone is a Smurf first.


http://www.jmarcschmidt.com/Smurfs/sociosmurf2.html

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/24/09 11:58 PM
Smurfette is unique in the village in that she is not defined by an occupation or a personality trait like the male, or real Smurfs, but by her sex. She is not a real member of society because of her sex, and this is represented metaphorically in the show by the fact that she was created by Gargomel.

The dimunitive suffix of 'ette', common in our society, also identifies Smurfette as being not the equal of the males. She is the second sex.

Above I asserted that eveyone in the Village was equal. In a sense, this is still true. In the beginning, it was all male, and Smurfette's introduction did not disrupt the patriarchal order. Thus, Smurfette is equal to the others politically, but not socially.

In an ideal, sexist, patriarchal state, women are not a part of the community. They do not occupy the 'public sphere' of work and the outside world, and they certainly do not work. Smurfette's main occupation seems to be standing around looking pretty, ie 'being the woman', although when it comes to problem solving, the producers have not, thankfully, made her a brainless bimbo. She is quite a bit sharper than the rest of the Smurfs, except of course, for Papa.

Smurfette is definitely the 'object' of the male gaze. Since she is the object, the males are the subjects. They are active, she is passive.

Smurfette has no breasts. I believe this is significant when we consider how Smurfette was created. She began life as the almost Frankensteinian creation of Gargomel. As a capitalist, he naturally is treating her as a commodity, something which can be made, used and disposed of, all ultimately to make him money. The idea that a woman can be made by a man denies women's key role in procreation. The fact that she does not posess breasts goes further to this denial of nature, an attempt to control women, to make them conform to the societal norm imposed by the patriachal order.

Smurfette is a secondary creation, in that she was made after the males. She has a heart of stone, and technically, she is unnatural. Physically and metaphorically, she is not a 'real' smurf. She is, in short, bad and wrong, as patriarchal cultures have viewed women for centuries.

http://www.jmarcschmidt.com/Smurfs/sociosmurf2.html

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 11/25/09 12:00 AM


I find quite a few things about the smurfs a little disturbing...laugh


why??? because smurfette was the only female and then all of a sudden there was a baby???? laugh
:smile: "ette" means "lesser".:smile: So the name "Smurfette" means "The lesser smurf".:smile: Which sort of is a hint of how the creator of the smurfs viewed females:smile:

Ladylid2012's photo
Wed 11/25/09 12:05 AM



I find quite a few things about the smurfs a little disturbing...laugh


why??? because smurfette was the only female and then all of a sudden there was a baby???? laugh
:smile: "ette" means "lesser".:smile: So the name "Smurfette" means "The lesser smurf".:smile: Which sort of is a hint of how the creator of the smurfs viewed females:smile:


Well, women have always been considered the "weaker vessel", so why not in smurf world too.

Wow, what a surprise to many as the divine feminine begins to re-emerge over the next bit of time...what a shocker to some to learn how we are actually equal...what a concept

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 11/25/09 12:10 AM




I find quite a few things about the smurfs a little disturbing...laugh


why??? because smurfette was the only female and then all of a sudden there was a baby???? laugh
:smile: "ette" means "lesser".:smile: So the name "Smurfette" means "The lesser smurf".:smile: Which sort of is a hint of how the creator of the smurfs viewed females:smile:


Well, women have always been considered the "weaker vessel", so why not in smurf world too.

Wow, what a surprise to many as the divine feminine begins to re-emerge over the next bit of time...what a shocker to some to learn how we are actually equal...what a concept


Smurfette has no breasts. I believe this is significant when we consider how Smurfette was created. She began life as the almost Frankensteinian creation of Gargomel. As a capitalist, he naturally is treating her as a commodity, something which can be made, used and disposed of, all ultimately to make him money. The idea that a woman can be made by a man denies women's key role in procreation. The fact that she does not posess breasts goes further to this denial of nature, an attempt to control women, to make them conform to the societal norm imposed by the patriachal order.

http://www.jmarcschmidt.com/Smurfs/sociosmurf2.html

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 11/25/09 12:13 AM
The Smurf Village as Homotopia:



The Smurf Village was always all-male, until Smurfette came along, when it was still overwhemingly male. This means that they did not procreate by traditional means, and thus, 'heterosexuality' would not be the norm.
Much like ancient Greek city-states such as Athens, which many believe is the closest to a pure democracy the world will ever come, government was by all the people, and by 'all the people' they meant males only. Women are not invited to particpate in public affairs. In Athens, homosexuality was not uncommon, nor was it particularly frowned upon.

No Smurf ever forms a relationship with Smurfette. Although she is the focus of some childish heterosexual rivalries, especially between Hefty and Handy, there is never any real heterosexual tension in the Village. The tension is more between Hefty and Handy themselves, who seem to be more interested in impressing each other than Smurfette.

If the Smurf Village existed for ages without any females, how would the Smurfs have been able to understand what the Smurfette was? Certainly, nature would provide examples of male-female bondings that the Smurfs would have been able to observe, but in their own sphere, there were never any women, and never any heterosexuality. Thus, how could Smurfette have been able to seduce anyone? Are the creators trying to say that heterosexuality is the natural state, even if it never existed in society and there was never any frame of reference for understanding what heterosexual attraction was? On this point, I'm prepared to let the creators off. They probably weren't even thinking about it, because in our society, heterosexuality is very much seen as the norm.


Lastly, I believe the characters of Hefty, Handy and Vanity are gay archetypes. Vanity is the kind of gay archetype commonly presented by the straight entertainment industry, for example in the UK sitcom Are You Being Served? while Hefty and Handy are gay archetypes in the same vein as the Village People, with their extremely iconic masculinity, exaggerated to the point of camp. Meanwhile, I believe Clumsy and Brainy represent an stereotypical gay couple.


http://www.jmarcschmidt.com/Smurfs/sociosmurf2.html

no photo
Wed 11/25/09 06:44 AM
New Smurfs magically appear every Blue Moon, any Smurfologist could tell you that.

Also, /agree with OP's point.

Quietman_2009's photo
Wed 11/25/09 06:46 AM
I'm with Gargamel

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 11/25/09 07:28 AM
You think the Smurfs are bad? Check out Teletubbies sometime. scared

Ladylid2012's photo
Wed 11/25/09 07:31 AM

You think the Smurfs are bad? Check out Teletubbies sometime. scared



I'm still reeling over all the Miss piggy and Kermit sexual innuendos..I mean really, a pig and a frog. What subliminal mind fo cK were "they" doing to us there...shocked shocked

wux's photo
Wed 11/25/09 07:43 PM

Smurf people are fascinating group of forest dwellers. Everyone knows they hate magicians and cats. How they perpetuate their existence with only one female is a little disturbing.


That Smurf female... is a milf for me. I mean, a smilf.

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