here is a topic that has yet to be approched...

ID...EGO...SUPEREGO
unconcious, consious, and restraint
and for those who dont know what im talking about just yet.. here are
the definitions:
id

In Freudian psychoanalytic theory, one of the three aspects of the human
personality, along with the ego and superego. The id is the source of
instinctual impulses such as sex and aggression as well as primitive
needs that exist at birth. It is entirely nonrational and functions
according to the pleasure-pain principle, seeking immediate fulfillment
of its impulses whenever possible. Its working processes are completely
unconscious in the adult, but it supplies the energy for conscious
mental life, and it plays an especially important role in modes of
expression that have a nonrational element, such as the making of art.
The primary methods for unmasking its content, according to Sigmund
Freud, are dream analysis and free association.

ego

In psychoanalytic theory, the portion of the psyche experienced as the
"self" or "I." It is the part that remembers, evaluates, plans, and in
other ways is responsive to and acts in the surrounding physical and
social world. According to Sigmund Freud, it coexists with the id (the
unconscious, instinctual portion of the psyche) and the superego (the
portion representing the conscience, or the internalization of societal
norms). The ego is not coextensive with either the personality or the
body; rather, it serves to integrate these and other aspects of the
person, such as memory, imagination, and behaviour. It mediates between
the id and the superego by building up various defense mechanisms.

superego

In Freudian psychoanalytic theory, one of the three aspects of the human
personality, along with the id and the ego. The last of the three
elements to develop, the superego is the ethical component of the
personality, providing the moral standards by which the ego operates.
The superego is formed during the first five years of life in response
to parental punishment and approval; children internalize their parents'
moral standards as well as those of the surrounding society, and the
developing superego serves to control aggressive or other socially
unacceptable impulses. Violation of the superego's standards gives rise
to feelings of guilt or anxiety.

Where do you dewll most of the time? And, what do you think about what
Freud has to say compared the "modern Psyche"?

since i have a degree in Psych, i did alot of studying Freud and i think
I pretty much dwell in the ego

I have always lingered in the ID but my daily life seems to live in the
Superego...I think due to my maternial instincts....

thats cool Mikey.. I always loved Psychology...

I did too until I got my student loan bill!!!!

I think I dwell mostly in the super-ego and I think this theory of
freuds is bang on compared to some of his other theories which he
relates back to sex all the time...Some of those I would question!!!!!!

I agree native he was a brilliant man but some of his ideas on sex are
way, way out there!

i think its not a matter of dewlling in either, its a matter of how
your subconsious may over rule the conscious. we nay think we dewll on
one thing, however to function two of them must be present in all
descisions. enough about freud how about herbert spencer or karl marx?
they fall right into the post freudian therum (sorry bout the spelling)
does anyone remember lord of the flies??? perfect example!

yes, I rember the Lord of the Flies..it was a good book..

however, I posted this Freudian inner mind thread to make people
evaluate why they are the way they are.... and, it could possibly give
them a lil insight as to why they seem to make the choices in the
relationships they choose to have or not have.

the unconsious (ID) never truley rules the mind unless in slumber..
however, you can make an unconsious decision.. but through the thought
process of elemination... it is the conscious(ego/superego) that
preceeds all thought and action.

now.. back to The Lord of the Flies....that ws pretty much a story of
raw survival and human instinct. dosent take much of consious to be a
ruler.. look at any government and you can see that.

but.... and there is always a big (_(_) involved...

In matters of the heart... most people walk around with blinders on and
continue to make the same mistakes over and over ... is it the heart
that is the blind leading the blind or is it the mind?

does the heart rule your unconcious behavior or your ID?

i belive strongly that the heart rules the id b/c the mind is what
rationalizes decisions, however lord of the flies is linked to
ego/superego b.c "jack" was a good kid at first then survival instinct (
herbert spencer) kicked in and that is when the id kicked in to help him
survive not only in life but in leadership, however i do see what you
are saying. its all about intergrating psychological/sociological points
of view.

is this a psyc test?

Im sorry to rain on this chicky, but this is the guy that said that
taking a sh1t is as good as an orgasim......I have to question his
thought processes.

Yes Freud had a lot of interesting conceptsbut..To live by what he had
to say is pushing it for me. I don't think that he had both oars in the
water all the time

i can make my bs sound just as good

Sub conscious, conscious, and restraint.

How to vacillate between all three, and not compromise any, or all?

The human paradox.

How to harness the subconscious, the 'silent processor', the conscious,
the 'filter' for all sensory imput, and then to use restraint, the moral
judgments, and the moral codes we create for ourselves?

Perhaps by being AWARE, of all three, and to be the 'police', the
'outside observer', of all that comes in, and all that comes up, and
out?

By stepping outside of the ego...and listening to what is going on?

A hard task, and a constant juggling game...


Great topic, GHC..

Freud had interesting concepts, my question is how did he develop all
these concepts, when his studies were basicaly based on women only? That
is if I remember my basic psychology lessons correctly

Are there not great, or not so great works, more specific to one gender
or another?

Is not the Bible, put together, collated, by men? And mostly about men?

Does that mean it is only relevant to men?

Or how we choose to perceive it, to find the relevance, pertaining to
self, irrespective of gender?

wasnt freud a coke addict?...

Yes Frued had a drug problem and alcohol, too