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this is for my sister
she moved in with a friend of hers to save some money and the landlord knew ahead of time that she was moving in well the landlord is now wanting to raise the rent $100 more and this part i dont think he can do. her friend has lived in this apt for 2yrs and he never charged her a deposit... now he is wanting her to pay that... come on after 2yrs i dont think that is right does anyone think that he can do that and is it legal |
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local laws matter more than the opinions and guesses that I could venture. it sounds unfair, maybe find a different landlord? they tend to get the message if you move out and they don't have rent coming in anymore. In the US, check the law section of the biggest local library. Look up City, State, Federal, and Civil Law. That should cover it. Or maybe try asking a lawyer in the context that you have a situation and you are unsure of whether or not you need a lawyer, so you want a free quickie consult.
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I agree with Causality. You'll have to research the local landlord tenant laws. The Building and Safety department for the city she lives in would be a good place to start.
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He can probaly charge what he likes unless there is an agreement stating a price. If there is an agreement it will have a time limit on it.
Its not necessarily unfair to increase the rent, if it hasnt increased in two years it might be about time. The price of things do go up, and the landlord isnt letting his property out of charity. |
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Unless there is a signed lease stating the per month rent, the landlord can charge what he/she likes.
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Unless there is a signed lease stating the per month rent, the landlord can charge what he/she likes. yes i know the landlord can charge what he likes but charging a deposit after 2yrs when he didnt charge her before doesnt seem right |
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local laws matter more than the opinions and guesses that I could venture. it sounds unfair, maybe find a different landlord? they tend to get the message if you move out and they don't have rent coming in anymore. In the US, check the law section of the biggest local library. Look up City, State, Federal, and Civil Law. That should cover it. Or maybe try asking a lawyer in the context that you have a situation and you are unsure of whether or not you need a lawyer, so you want a free quickie consult. I think I agree but have to double check!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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this is for my sister she moved in with a friend of hers to save some money and the landlord knew ahead of time that she was moving in well the landlord is now wanting to raise the rent $100 more and this part i dont think he can do. her friend has lived in this apt for 2yrs and he never charged her a deposit... now he is wanting her to pay that... come on after 2yrs i dont think that is right does anyone think that he can do that and is it legal It depends what was in the lease if the friend has one. |
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Unless there is a signed lease stating the per month rent, the landlord can charge what he/she likes. yes i know the landlord can charge what he likes but charging a deposit after 2yrs when he didnt charge her before doesnt seem right It all comes down to the contract. Without one, you have to check the local laws that would rule in this situation. It is unusual to ask for a security deposit after 2 years. Is this a new landlord? Did the property recently change hands. My guess is that without a contract (lease) the landlord can ask for this. But, again, I would start with the city's building and safety department. |
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Edited by
PacificStar54
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Sun 11/15/09 12:19 AM
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It depends if she has a lease. And when the original lease expired? Usually it is year to year but if there is a roll over clause by occupying the apartment she may be stuck. If the original lease has expired she is now on a month to month basis which reduces her rights even more. Either way your sister probably is entitled to a certain amount of notice to raise her rent or demand a deposite in writing. But it may not be more than a month or even three days if she is behind on the rent. Checking local statutes is the key. Usually United Way can refer you to someone who can advise her of her rights.
Since moving is probably going to cost your sis's friend more than she will collect from your sis she would be wise to tell her to move on and try to make peace with the landlord. Since it sounds like this landlord is looking for a reason to run your Sis's friend off she should be seriously looking for another apartment she can afford on her own and giving notice. Getting a bad rental record is something to be avoided like the plague because it can quickly lead to homelessness and ruin your sisters's friendship. Depending on either of their credit I would tell them both to check out any kind of houseing assistance programs or possible grants to buy her first home. Or being accepted by Habitat for Humanity to build them a home. If they accept her application they can probably help her negotiate her current situation. Getting a room mate is a big step that should be gone into with all parties in WRITTEN agreement about who pays what and written house rules. Most landlords do not tolerate add on tenants without their permission because of liability and municiple regulations on renting. Not to mention roommates cause many domestic problems and more wear and tear on the property. Or damage that will fall on your sister's friend's shoulders. You have a tough situation being a sister because you don't get to make her decisions for her but if you let her learn from her own actions and their consequences then maybe she will find wisdom before she finds fairness. Perhaps you can help her with temporary assistance but I would caution you not to jeapordize your houseing situation so that the children have no place. |
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It depends if she has a lease. And when the original lease expired? Usually it is year to year but if there is a roll over clause by occupying the apartment she may be stuck. If the original lease has expired she is now on a month to month basis which reduces her rights even more. Either way your sister probably is entitled to a certain amount of notice to raise her rent or demand a deposite in writing. But it may not be more than a month or even three days if she is behind on the rent. Checking local statutes is the key. Usually United Way can refer you to someone who can advise her of her rights. Since moving is probably going to cost your sis's friend more than she will collect from your sis she would be wise to tell her to move on and try to make peace with the landlord. Since it sounds like this landlord is looking for a reason to run your Sis's friend off she should be seriously looking for another apartment she can afford on her own and giving notice. Getting a bad rental record is something to be avoided like the plague because it can quickly lead to homelessness and ruin your sisters's friendship. Depending on either of their credit I would tell them both to check out any kind of houseing assistance programs or possible grants to buy her first home. Or being accepted by Habitat for Humanity to build them a home. If they accept her application they can probably help her negotiate her current situation. Getting a room mate is a big step that should be gone into with all parties in WRITTEN agreement about who pays what and written house rules. Most landlords do not tolerate add on tenants without their permission because of liability and municiple regulations on renting. Not to mention roommates cause many domestic problems and more wear and tear on the property. Or damage that will fall on your sister's friend's shoulders. You have a tough situation being a sister because you don't get to make her decisions for her but if you let her learn from her own actions and their consequences then maybe she will find wisdom before she finds fairness. Perhaps you can help her with temporary assistance but I would caution you not to jeapordize your houseing situation so that the children have no place. I have been a landlord in WI,If a tenent wants a roommate.We have to have a 30 days notice.And both parties have to sign, responsibilities.Also depends on lease.Is it month to month or year contract?There is more wear and tear on a dwelling, with more people there.Also w/s bill was paid by me,so that would be a higher bill. As for charging extra for rent, we have to give mim of 30 days notice.(I usually give 60 days from new lease date.)I do think your landlord may have thought of an raise in rent,because in 2 year, usually his insurance,building maintance etc has went up.But was taking the blunt cost. |
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hmm sorry my post, was to be added to the one I quoted...not added..sorry
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It depends if she has a lease. And when the original lease expired? Usually it is year to year but if there is a roll over clause by occupying the apartment she may be stuck. If the original lease has expired she is now on a month to month basis which reduces her rights even more. Either way your sister probably is entitled to a certain amount of notice to raise her rent or demand a deposite in writing. But it may not be more than a month or even three days if she is behind on the rent. Checking local statutes is the key. Usually United Way can refer you to someone who can advise her of her rights. Since moving is probably going to cost your sis's friend more than she will collect from your sis she would be wise to tell her to move on and try to make peace with the landlord. Since it sounds like this landlord is looking for a reason to run your Sis's friend off she should be seriously looking for another apartment she can afford on her own and giving notice. Getting a bad rental record is something to be avoided like the plague because it can quickly lead to homelessness and ruin your sisters's friendship. Depending on either of their credit I would tell them both to check out any kind of houseing assistance programs or possible grants to buy her first home. Or being accepted by Habitat for Humanity to build them a home. If they accept her application they can probably help her negotiate her current situation. Getting a room mate is a big step that should be gone into with all parties in WRITTEN agreement about who pays what and written house rules. Most landlords do not tolerate add on tenants without their permission because of liability and municiple regulations on renting. Not to mention roommates cause many domestic problems and more wear and tear on the property. Or damage that will fall on your sister's friend's shoulders. You have a tough situation being a sister because you don't get to make her decisions for her but if you let her learn from her own actions and their consequences then maybe she will find wisdom before she finds fairness. Perhaps you can help her with temporary assistance but I would caution you not to jeapordize your houseing situation so that the children have no place. I have been a landlord in WI,If a tenent wants a roommate.We have to have a 30 days notice.And both parties have to sign, responsibilities.Also depends on lease.Is it month to month or year contract?There is more wear and tear on a dwelling, with more people there.Also w/s bill was paid by me,so that would be a higher bill. As for charging extra for rent, we have to give mim of 30 days notice.(I usually give 60 days from new lease date.)I do think your landlord may have thought of an raise in rent,because in 2 year, usually his insurance,building maintance etc has went up.But was taking the blunt cost. im not talking about bring charged for extra rent... i was talking about can the landlord charge for the deposit after 2yrs, which i dont think they can |
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It depends if she has a lease. And when the original lease expired? Usually it is year to year but if there is a roll over clause by occupying the apartment she may be stuck. If the original lease has expired she is now on a month to month basis which reduces her rights even more. Either way your sister probably is entitled to a certain amount of notice to raise her rent or demand a deposite in writing. But it may not be more than a month or even three days if she is behind on the rent. Checking local statutes is the key. Usually United Way can refer you to someone who can advise her of her rights. Since moving is probably going to cost your sis's friend more than she will collect from your sis she would be wise to tell her to move on and try to make peace with the landlord. Since it sounds like this landlord is looking for a reason to run your Sis's friend off she should be seriously looking for another apartment she can afford on her own and giving notice. Getting a bad rental record is something to be avoided like the plague because it can quickly lead to homelessness and ruin your sisters's friendship. Depending on either of their credit I would tell them both to check out any kind of houseing assistance programs or possible grants to buy her first home. Or being accepted by Habitat for Humanity to build them a home. If they accept her application they can probably help her negotiate her current situation. Getting a room mate is a big step that should be gone into with all parties in WRITTEN agreement about who pays what and written house rules. Most landlords do not tolerate add on tenants without their permission because of liability and municiple regulations on renting. Not to mention roommates cause many domestic problems and more wear and tear on the property. Or damage that will fall on your sister's friend's shoulders. You have a tough situation being a sister because you don't get to make her decisions for her but if you let her learn from her own actions and their consequences then maybe she will find wisdom before she finds fairness. Perhaps you can help her with temporary assistance but I would caution you not to jeapordize your houseing situation so that the children have no place. I have been a landlord in WI,If a tenent wants a roommate.We have to have a 30 days notice.And both parties have to sign, responsibilities.Also depends on lease.Is it month to month or year contract?There is more wear and tear on a dwelling, with more people there.Also w/s bill was paid by me,so that would be a higher bill. As for charging extra for rent, we have to give mim of 30 days notice.(I usually give 60 days from new lease date.)I do think your landlord may have thought of an raise in rent,because in 2 year, usually his insurance,building maintance etc has went up.But was taking the blunt cost. im not talking about bring charged for extra rent... i was talking about can the landlord charge for the deposit after 2yrs, which i dont think they can Oh sheesh I'm sorry..yes they can.Again with a revision of contract.(the one she has now,again 30 days mim. notice)But with that said and landlord made revisions, you also as a tenant have the right to make 30 days notice of moving. Because landlord broke contract. |
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Why do ordinary citizens have to practically have a degree in law in order to exist in their day-to-day living?
Try to look up one single simple piece of law... and it can't be unhinged from the entire legal history and collective laws of the USA. |
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this is for my sister she moved in with a friend of hers to save some money and the landlord knew ahead of time that she was moving in well the landlord is now wanting to raise the rent $100 more and this part i dont think he can do. her friend has lived in this apt for 2yrs and he never charged her a deposit... now he is wanting her to pay that... come on after 2yrs i dont think that is right does anyone think that he can do that and is it legal Can't they just pay the deposit? They will get it back anyway. All things being fair. And if they don't get it back, all things being fair, then that's for a reason, too. All things being fair. |
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