Topic: The line of Free Speech
msharmony's photo
Mon 11/09/09 11:36 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 11/09/09 11:36 PM
LINCOLN (KPTM) - A Lincoln man acquitted of the rape and murder of a Lincoln woman in 1995 has been arrested for threatening to stalk another woman.

Police say 46-year-old Gregory Gabel harassed a clerk at Ashley Lynn's Tanning Salon Friday morning.

Police say Gabel made several alarming statements to the 21-year-old female clerk. While completing forms to use the tanning salon, Gregory started gazing at the woman's chest.

He then said, 'It should be okay for girls to walk around with their shirts off, because it's okay for men to.' When Gabel noticed her name tag, he said, "I'll never forget that" and went on to tell her that he liked the movie 'Death Proof'. It was about murderer that would stalk and kill college girls, and one of the victims in the movie shared the same name as the clerk.

Gabel also told her he would be coming into Ashley Lynn's everyday at the same time, because he knew that she worked there. Disturbed by Gabel's actions and statements, she later called the police.

Gabel was arrested and released for Disturbing the Peace Saturday morning at his home. While he was being issued the citation, police also advised Gabel he has been banned from the tanning salon. If he returns, he will be arrested for trespassing.

Gabel was arrested in 1996 in connection with the rape and murder of 18-year-old Martina McMenamin, a University of Nebraska-Lincoln student. He was later acquitted because a strand of hair in her hand did not match his DNA.
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,,arrested for disturbing the peace because his words creeped someone out,,,, this one surprises me given women cant get cops to arrest their verbally abusive husband for being creepy or disturbing peace,,,

MzChikaBonita's photo
Tue 11/10/09 12:00 AM
Hu thats wierd, husbands should be easily arrested as this creep was. then again cops can be sexist, maybe the girl that made the compliant was wearing a low cut top.
the world is very unfair. =[

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/10/09 12:02 AM

Hu thats wierd, husbands should be easily arrested as this creep was. then again cops can be sexist, maybe the girl that made the compliant was wearing a low cut top.
the world is very unfair. =[



good point,, it Was a tanning booth,,,,,,

daniel48706's photo
Tue 11/10/09 04:01 AM
And then again, maybe he did exactly what this girl accused him of, which I would find a bit scary nervous as well.

I mean come on, he comes in stares at her chest and states she should be able to go without a shirt on. Clearly he is fantasizing about something here. And even if he wasn't, this is just NOT an appropriate conversation starter with a complete stranger of the opposite sex.

From there he went on to claim he would never forget her name. as well as making a reference to a charectar in a movie that has the same name, and is the same age as this lady, that gets killed in the movie. This suggests that he is making a personal connection between her and the "murdered victim" of the movie.

If you think this isn't bad enough, he then goes on to outright say he is going to come in everyday when he knows she is working; this is AFTER he has undressed her with his eyes, and claimed she reminded him of a murdered lady (fictional though that lady was).

If I had been her, I would have politely processed him into the tanning salon, in order to keep him calm, and as soon as he was out of earshot I would have called the police. I would not have waited until later in the day.

In regards to having been arrested for disturbing the peace, eh I can understand this as a kind of warning measure to straighten his act out. Try to give the guy a chance in case he was just a bumbling fool who thought he was trying to flirt. As far as his past "arrests" were concerned he had been aqquiitted of each of them, thus they could not be held against him in this case.

In regards to husbands who pull this or even worse behavior, I totally agree the police should not look the other way for a "domestic" issue. I do not care if ithappens beteen husband and wife, parent and child, brother and brother, etc etc etc. I don't care where it happens, if you do something that would get another person arrested, then having a family connection should NOT be reason to look the other way; especially in the case of husband and wife. Way too many women who call the police to be told "it's a domestic dispute ma'am we have no real authority here" end up in the hospital or worse, because of the fact that the police do not want to handle domestic disputes.

daniel48706's photo
Tue 11/10/09 04:03 AM
And in reference to how hse may or may not have been dressed, etc. again it makes no differance. She could have been in a skimpy two piece string biking with everything left to no imagination, and it would not excuse the remarks this guy made.

raiderfan_32's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:27 AM
anyone ever consider that this guy might just be socially clumsy?

not know how to converse with women?

maybe he has some mental disturbance that inhibits him from being smooth with the ladies..

or maybe jumping to the conclusion of mental illness is only reserved for jihadis in US Army uniforms who shoot up rooms full of fellow soldiers after recording a history of anti-American rhetoric and attempting to convert injured soldiers to islam..

Quietman_2009's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:33 AM
I don't get the free speech connection

daniel48706's photo
Tue 11/10/09 09:16 AM

I don't get the free speech connection


Somebody is suggesting that this guy was not at fault in any way because of his freedom of speech. That because he has the freedom to speak, that he has the freedom to harass as well.


and in regards to the suggestion that he might be socially clumsy, I already approached that theory, and stated that due to the fact the he disturbed her peace and made her uncomfortable, then yes the police had the right to charge him with disturbing the peace. And I am sorry, but using myself as an example, I am very shy in real life when I meet someone, especially if I think she is attractive, but even with that being the case I would NEVER say the things he said upon meeting someone.

Quietman_2009's photo
Tue 11/10/09 09:32 AM
ummm I guess

the Supreme Court has already ruled that free speech only applies to the government

people can restrict speech all they want

no body has the right to make you listen to anything

Dragoness's photo
Tue 11/10/09 09:36 AM

LINCOLN (KPTM) - A Lincoln man acquitted of the rape and murder of a Lincoln woman in 1995 has been arrested for threatening to stalk another woman.

Police say 46-year-old Gregory Gabel harassed a clerk at Ashley Lynn's Tanning Salon Friday morning.

Police say Gabel made several alarming statements to the 21-year-old female clerk. While completing forms to use the tanning salon, Gregory started gazing at the woman's chest.

He then said, 'It should be okay for girls to walk around with their shirts off, because it's okay for men to.' When Gabel noticed her name tag, he said, "I'll never forget that" and went on to tell her that he liked the movie 'Death Proof'. It was about murderer that would stalk and kill college girls, and one of the victims in the movie shared the same name as the clerk.

Gabel also told her he would be coming into Ashley Lynn's everyday at the same time, because he knew that she worked there. Disturbed by Gabel's actions and statements, she later called the police.

Gabel was arrested and released for Disturbing the Peace Saturday morning at his home. While he was being issued the citation, police also advised Gabel he has been banned from the tanning salon. If he returns, he will be arrested for trespassing.

Gabel was arrested in 1996 in connection with the rape and murder of 18-year-old Martina McMenamin, a University of Nebraska-Lincoln student. He was later acquitted because a strand of hair in her hand did not match his DNA.
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,,arrested for disturbing the peace because his words creeped someone out,,,, this one surprises me given women cant get cops to arrest their verbally abusive husband for being creepy or disturbing peace,,,



Yea, what he said is kinda creepy. Whether that is a reason to be arrested or not, I don't know.

Cambolaya65's photo
Tue 11/10/09 09:54 AM
Dude........um.....whoa.ohwell

raiderfan_32's photo
Tue 11/10/09 10:06 AM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Tue 11/10/09 10:09 AM
what? you sayin it isn't true?

you think the flatbelly behind the counter at the tanning salon knew anything about his arrest record or nefarious and unsavory past? You think she got the film reference?

highly doubtful.. all she knew was that some "creepy old guy" was hitting on her and she didn't like it..

I guarantee you that if you replace "creepy old guy" with a Tom Brady-type, the cops never get called and no one ever knows about this..

Dragoness's photo
Tue 11/10/09 10:57 AM

Dude........um.....whoa.ohwell


No kidding.

Dislike women or what?