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Topic: What is good for America?
Thomas27's photo
Tue 11/10/09 07:55 PM
I would have a Guns and Roses week, maybe in the month of November preferably when it is raining. Every radio station would play G&R 24/7 for a solid week and on the eighth day, every tv station would air T2 reruns all day long. Ever reminding us, that we are knock, knock, knocking on heavens doors, so we need to just live and let die.

Welcome to the jungle and don't you cry tonight, cause you ain't the first. We don't need your civil war, so back off b!t(h!


That's what I would do anyways.shades

Dragoness's photo
Tue 11/10/09 07:59 PM

I would have a Guns and Roses week, maybe in the month of November preferably when it is raining. Every radio station would play G&R 24/7 for a solid week and on the eighth day, every tv station would air T2 reruns all day long. Ever reminding us, that we are knock, knock, knocking on heavens doors, so we need to just live and let die.

Welcome to the jungle and don't you cry tonight, cause you ain't the first. We don't need your civil war, so back off b!t(h!


That's what I would do anyways.shades


I might could go for that..lol

no photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:06 PM
Well, since I'm not an American Citizen and my post is purely from the perspective of a casual observer - I'm sure my comments will get flamed.

If you want to restore America to it's past glory:

1) Stop whoring out your industry to 3rd world countries so you can save $3 when you go shopping

Reason: America was at it's peak when it was a truly industrialized nation and it lead the world in industry, technology and financial matters. Now the major American corporations are outsourcing everything to "developing nations", which is destroying your economy.

2) Get rid of 90% of the Unions and stop being so damn greedy.

Reason: The average UAW worker with 10+ years of service made more than a typical doctor. Even American car company executives didn't have to geniuses to realize that in order to recover the money being paid out on ridiculous operating costs, they would have to have their parts made in developing countries where autoworkers are making $17 a day and they're damn happy to have such a high paying job. I used car manufacturers as an example but the same can be said of pretty much all of your major industries.

3) Stop the self segregation - I don't mean that those damn white people are at it again, I mean feeling the need to identify and alienate yourselves by insisting that you are referred to as "African American", "Asian American", "Muslim American", "Jewish American"....why can't you just be "American"?

You can blame every other racial, religious, political, gender or sexuality based group that you want for feeling that you're not being treated fairly but until people can stop self segregating there will always be a battle to demand more rights and freedoms then the other guys.

4) Stop "Americanizing", everything in your education system.

Reason: If todays youth learned anything in school that actually promoted other cultures and nations who have either assisted the United States or that the US has learned lessons from that they have adapted into their culture, there would be much more racial and religious tolerance which means less discrimination/fear/hatred.

5) Hold your government accountable and force them to admit when they screwed something up.

That pretty much speaks for itself...since the civil war, the government has supremely screwed many things up and has either provoked or alienated many many other nations yet both the government and the citizenship usually seems hellbent on justifying their actions and placing blame on everyone else involved. I'm not saying that every American citizen does it every time but the attitude of "supreme overlord of the world", often seems pretty ingrained in the vast majority of Americans.

Okay, I'm done - let the flaming begin. I might check back in a week or so to see when I should expect the lynch mob at my door :)

AndrewAV's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:10 PM






That's what am saying. It needs to be incorporated into the history texts. Sociology classes need to teach about the different cultures and their history, But we need ot quit making each event into something special as all it does is keep racism and bigotry alive.




Forgive me, I am not trying to say we shouldn't teach about what has been done to the black culture, or to women in history; I am not saying we shouldn't teach about black rights and women's sufferage over the years. That should ALL be taught as a part of history class, or possibly even government class (as in human rights, women sufferage throughout the years). BUT by dedicating an entire month to these things, it is not teaching anything. It is just bringing a lot of emotion back up to the head of the boil. And while yes, it is god to bring that stuff up in order to purge the boil, it needs to be done in a more gradual and effective way.




The first thing I would do is overhaul all the government offices (federal AND STATE). I agree that the states themselves have the right to have their own laws and hire their own people for their government work, but this right does not supercede federal law, nor does it allow them to hire their friends and family, and then not enforce good work ethics and results.

some examples: make it so that the social services departments could not require their receptionists to have a social workers degree. By receptionist, I mean the ladies and gentleman that sit behind the front desk all day long answering the phones, and entering a clients information into the data-system so that when their number is called, the actual social worker is prepared. This is a basic data entry position which does not require a four year degree to perform.

ALL states would have some form of welfare to work program, in which welfare recipients were required to attend a fourty hour a week job search program, unless they could show justifiable reason as to why they couldn't attend; like a special needs family member that required they stay home no matter what (verified with a dr's written statement to this effect).
These job search programs would be internally reviewed on a quarterly basis at a minimum, and any worker found not enforcing the job search criteria (in other words, allowing the job searchers to just sit and talk all day long and NOT work towards being employed), would be first given a written reprimand, and then if it happened again in a one year time frame, fired for not doing their job.

All job searchers in the above program would be required to accept the first job they were offered, no matter what it was, unless they could prove that it would be more of a hardship on them than having no job; for example having to drive 50 miles one way, 5 days a week for minimum wage, and only getting 20 hours per week.

Employers would not be able to review your credit history in order to determine eligibility of employment, except in cases where your financial history would directly relate to the job at hand, such as a bank teller.

Landlords would not be able to review your credit history/report in aking a decision concerning renting to you. They already have laws in effect to protect them from people who do not pay their rent, it is called court and eviction, and the courts can reverse the charges so that the landlord does not have to pay a cent to evict you.

And a big one that would make a lot of people upset: their would be no more "national minority months". For example, no more National women's month, no more "black history" month" no more this type of month or that type of month; all they do is promote discrimination, and put emphasis on the differences between everyone, when we SHOULD be teaching our kids that everybody is the same and thus should be treated the same.

I think I will stop ehre thoguh I have a ot of other ideas that I would work at implenting. I know I made a lot of people upset with the last one.



I think those are all great ideas, except the black history month thing,,, Segregation and racism and bigotry are all very real in America and I wouldnt think ignoring them would make people more united. I believe the reason we have such things is because history has shown that America can Exclude many groups if left on its own accord. I remember as a kid, the educational system hadnt mentioned one thing a black person had done , had not taught me about anything from my american history except slavery, until junior high. I remmber when BHM came out, the white students laughing and asking why we had a month when blacks never did anything. I think what people ARENT taught has just as much baring on what they come to believe as what they are.




IF the month would be replaced with a yearlong curriculum, that would be great.I just dont have faith the history books or the educational system would voluntarily incorporate those things into their yearlong curriculum.



Celebrating our differences is just as important as celebrating what makes us the same across the board.

White folks have a hard time understanding this concept because the differences we (white folks) celebrated while being the power race in this country have always been based on culture and background. Skin color or classification was considered the same with us.

Celebrating cultural differences is really all the different races are doing also. They just happen to have all the same skin color just like we (white folks) did or do.


This is an incredibly racist thing to say, BTW.

Just because I'm white does not mean that I cannot see other viewpoints.


I can talk about my race and it is not racist. I know white folks I am one of them.


bulls**t. That's like how blacks will throw around the N word and claim, "it's our word and you can't use it."

you made a broad generalization about whites simply because they're white. prejudice based on race = racism.


Okay then in your eyes I am racist about my own race then.slaphead whoa If you want to believe that go ahead. surprised rofl


you may want to stop laughing and reread.

Thomas27's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:25 PM







That's what am saying......



Forgive me........


The first thing I would do is....



I think those......




IF the month would be replaced.......



Celebrating our differences......










Okay......


you may want to stop......






Amazing was the discovery, that G&R would solve all our problems.

daniel48706's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:25 PM
Name one national event that is based off of a white citizen's culture, and does not encompass other cultures as well.




I am not saying to not celebrate your culture or family heritage; I am saying do not make it into a National event.



That's what am saying. It needs to be incorporated into the history texts. Sociology classes need to teach about the different cultures and their history, But we need ot quit making each event into something special as all it does is keep racism and bigotry alive.




Forgive me, I am not trying to say we shouldn't teach about what has been done to the black culture, or to women in history; I am not saying we shouldn't teach about black rights and women's sufferage over the years. That should ALL be taught as a part of history class, or possibly even government class (as in human rights, women sufferage throughout the years). BUT by dedicating an entire month to these things, it is not teaching anything. It is just bringing a lot of emotion back up to the head of the boil. And while yes, it is god to bring that stuff up in order to purge the boil, it needs to be done in a more gradual and effective way.




The first thing I would do is overhaul all the government offices (federal AND STATE). I agree that the states themselves have the right to have their own laws and hire their own people for their government work, but this right does not supercede federal law, nor does it allow them to hire their friends and family, and then not enforce good work ethics and results.

some examples: make it so that the social services departments could not require their receptionists to have a social workers degree. By receptionist, I mean the ladies and gentleman that sit behind the front desk all day long answering the phones, and entering a clients information into the data-system so that when their number is called, the actual social worker is prepared. This is a basic data entry position which does not require a four year degree to perform.

ALL states would have some form of welfare to work program, in which welfare recipients were required to attend a fourty hour a week job search program, unless they could show justifiable reason as to why they couldn't attend; like a special needs family member that required they stay home no matter what (verified with a dr's written statement to this effect).
These job search programs would be internally reviewed on a quarterly basis at a minimum, and any worker found not enforcing the job search criteria (in other words, allowing the job searchers to just sit and talk all day long and NOT work towards being employed), would be first given a written reprimand, and then if it happened again in a one year time frame, fired for not doing their job.

All job searchers in the above program would be required to accept the first job they were offered, no matter what it was, unless they could prove that it would be more of a hardship on them than having no job; for example having to drive 50 miles one way, 5 days a week for minimum wage, and only getting 20 hours per week.

Employers would not be able to review your credit history in order to determine eligibility of employment, except in cases where your financial history would directly relate to the job at hand, such as a bank teller.

Landlords would not be able to review your credit history/report in aking a decision concerning renting to you. They already have laws in effect to protect them from people who do not pay their rent, it is called court and eviction, and the courts can reverse the charges so that the landlord does not have to pay a cent to evict you.

And a big one that would make a lot of people upset: their would be no more "national minority months". For example, no more National women's month, no more "black history" month" no more this type of month or that type of month; all they do is promote discrimination, and put emphasis on the differences between everyone, when we SHOULD be teaching our kids that everybody is the same and thus should be treated the same.

I think I will stop ehre thoguh I have a ot of other ideas that I would work at implenting. I know I made a lot of people upset with the last one.



I think those are all great ideas, except the black history month thing,,, Segregation and racism and bigotry are all very real in America and I wouldnt think ignoring them would make people more united. I believe the reason we have such things is because history has shown that America can Exclude many groups if left on its own accord. I remember as a kid, the educational system hadnt mentioned one thing a black person had done , had not taught me about anything from my american history except slavery, until junior high. I remmber when BHM came out, the white students laughing and asking why we had a month when blacks never did anything. I think what people ARENT taught has just as much baring on what they come to believe as what they are.




IF the month would be replaced with a yearlong curriculum, that would be great.I just dont have faith the history books or the educational system would voluntarily incorporate those things into their yearlong curriculum.



Celebrating our differences is just as important as celebrating what makes us the same across the board.

White folks have a hard time understanding this concept because the differences we (white folks) celebrated while being the power race in this country have always been based on culture and background. Skin color or classification was considered the same with us.

Celebrating cultural differences is really all the different races are doing also. They just happen to have all the same skin color just like we (white folks) did or do.



Why not? White folks have national events??

daniel48706's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:34 PM
Very well put, and I completely agree with you on this. Every single one of your points is very accurate and very truthful.



Well, since I'm not an American Citizen and my post is purely from the perspective of a casual observer - I'm sure my comments will get flamed.

If you want to restore America to it's past glory:

1) Stop whoring out your industry to 3rd world countries so you can save $3 when you go shopping

Reason: America was at it's peak when it was a truly industrialized nation and it lead the world in industry, technology and financial matters. Now the major American corporations are outsourcing everything to "developing nations", which is destroying your economy.

2) Get rid of 90% of the Unions and stop being so damn greedy.

Reason: The average UAW worker with 10+ years of service made more than a typical doctor. Even American car company executives didn't have to geniuses to realize that in order to recover the money being paid out on ridiculous operating costs, they would have to have their parts made in developing countries where autoworkers are making $17 a day and they're damn happy to have such a high paying job. I used car manufacturers as an example but the same can be said of pretty much all of your major industries.

3) Stop the self segregation - I don't mean that those damn white people are at it again, I mean feeling the need to identify and alienate yourselves by insisting that you are referred to as "African American", "Asian American", "Muslim American", "Jewish American"....why can't you just be "American"?

You can blame every other racial, religious, political, gender or sexuality based group that you want for feeling that you're not being treated fairly but until people can stop self segregating there will always be a battle to demand more rights and freedoms then the other guys.

4) Stop "Americanizing", everything in your education system.

Reason: If todays youth learned anything in school that actually promoted other cultures and nations who have either assisted the United States or that the US has learned lessons from that they have adapted into their culture, there would be much more racial and religious tolerance which means less discrimination/fear/hatred.

5) Hold your government accountable and force them to admit when they screwed something up.

That pretty much speaks for itself...since the civil war, the government has supremely screwed many things up and has either provoked or alienated many many other nations yet both the government and the citizenship usually seems hellbent on justifying their actions and placing blame on everyone else involved. I'm not saying that every American citizen does it every time but the attitude of "supreme overlord of the world", often seems pretty ingrained in the vast majority of Americans.

Okay, I'm done - let the flaming begin. I might check back in a week or so to see when I should expect the lynch mob at my door :)

Thomas27's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:39 PM

Very well put, and I completely agree with you on this. Every single one of your points is very accurate and very truthful.



Well, since I'm not an American Citizen and my post is purely from the perspective of a casual observer - I'm sure my comments will get flamed.

If you want to restore America to it's past glory:

1) Stop whoring out your industry to 3rd world countries so you can save $3 when you go shopping

Reason: America was at it's peak when it was a truly industrialized nation and it lead the world in industry, technology and financial matters. Now the major American corporations are outsourcing everything to "developing nations", which is destroying your economy.

2) Get rid of 90% of the Unions and stop being so damn greedy.

Reason: The average UAW worker with 10+ years of service made more than a typical doctor. Even American car company executives didn't have to geniuses to realize that in order to recover the money being paid out on ridiculous operating costs, they would have to have their parts made in developing countries where autoworkers are making $17 a day and they're damn happy to have such a high paying job. I used car manufacturers as an example but the same can be said of pretty much all of your major industries.

3) Stop the self segregation - I don't mean that those damn white people are at it again, I mean feeling the need to identify and alienate yourselves by insisting that you are referred to as "African American", "Asian American", "Muslim American", "Jewish American"....why can't you just be "American"?

You can blame every other racial, religious, political, gender or sexuality based group that you want for feeling that you're not being treated fairly but until people can stop self segregating there will always be a battle to demand more rights and freedoms then the other guys.

4) Stop "Americanizing", everything in your education system.

Reason: If todays youth learned anything in school that actually promoted other cultures and nations who have either assisted the United States or that the US has learned lessons from that they have adapted into their culture, there would be much more racial and religious tolerance which means less discrimination/fear/hatred.

5) Hold your government accountable and force them to admit when they screwed something up.

That pretty much speaks for itself...since the civil war, the government has supremely screwed many things up and has either provoked or alienated many many other nations yet both the government and the citizenship usually seems hellbent on justifying their actions and placing blame on everyone else involved. I'm not saying that every American citizen does it every time but the attitude of "supreme overlord of the world", often seems pretty ingrained in the vast majority of Americans.

Okay, I'm done - let the flaming begin. I might check back in a week or so to see when I should expect the lynch mob at my door :)




Negative, G&R is the ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

daniel48706's photo
Tue 11/10/09 08:44 PM
G&R would definitely help, I am not denying that! Nothing better than a major concert with songs that describe loving one another and peace among brothers (and sisters lol).

Cambolaya65's photo
Tue 11/10/09 09:20 PM
I would elect Hellkitten.....no term limits.PBR for all

drinks drinks drinks drinks drinks drinks drinks

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/10/09 09:59 PM


How about the removal of Liberalism.Seems the majority of problems can be traced to the stupid ideas and laws from Liberalism.I don't see how a country can be great when Liberals are always putting it down and saying how awful we are.

Put an end to the neo cons' political saga .
Promote peace and justice for all .
Put real limits on the media agglomerations .
Educate people to be fair, conscience and responsible .
End the Zionists control of America .
:thumbsup:

Thomas27's photo
Tue 11/10/09 10:00 PM
I would take a dump in public restrooms more often

Bestinshow's photo
Wed 11/11/09 05:25 AM
I think they should slash taxes for the wealthy. Privatize social secirity, deregulate the banks and wall street and export more jobs to china. I think they should let all the media consolidate and start a couple wars.

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