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Topic: Single Woman Artificially Inseminated
Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/07/09 02:45 PM


I'm sure some strong opinions will come from this...
I have been interviewing and hiring all this week at work.
A 25 year old girl, woman came to interview yesterday and was
telling me how badly she needed the job because she had just
found out she has successfully gotten pregnant through insemination.
I went a bit "motherly" on her, she is my son's age and asked her
what the rush is, and told how difficult this would be..
as I know because I ended up raising my boys alone.

None of my business, I realize, as a potential employer...
but this is a job starting at 10 bucks an hour.
Should she be more stable, have a plan, a husband to help, or
at least a boyfriend, some family? She just wants a baby NOW!

I'm not understanding why this is so important at such a young age,
with no job. And a possibility she will need state assistance.
Should just any young girl be able to do this...it seems so.

mr_withers's photo
Sat 11/07/09 02:58 PM
Why did she pay for sperm and an insemenation? She could have had it for free with dinner and drinks. Bringing children into this world never improves your financial situation in fact it tends to freeze you where you are. It sets an example for the child as well unwed mothers many times have grandkids with one parent as well. So if poverty is ok with her then great.

delilady's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:00 PM
I feel fortunate that I was lucky to be able to have children since I know there are so many women who wish they could. However raising children is a total commitment that should be well planned. It is hard enough with a partner, job and emotional support from family. I think that to make that choice with no job which means no insurance tells me that this woman has other issues. I hope both her and her child will be OK but I think she is going down a road that is going to make a hard life for both of them.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:02 PM

Why did she pay for sperm and an insemenation? She could have had it for free with dinner and drinks. Bringing children into this world never improves your financial situation in fact it tends to freeze you where you are. It sets an example for the child as well unwed mothers many times have grandkids with one parent as well. So if poverty is ok with her then great.


She did a thing where she was able to choose in some of the factors as far as intelligence, height, educational background of donor...that sort of thing. I don't know much of how this sort of thing works.

Male2009's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:08 PM
The biological urge to have a baby is one of the most intense emotions you can have. Each woman is different, some not feeling that maternal instinct kicking in so readily. Some employers wouldn't allow a pregnant woman into a new job, even though women have baby's... they're the only side of the human race who can - but not on their new employers time. some people are more desperate to have a child in their life, feeling that 'need' to nurture a child. each side has a valid argument...!? which do you put first? that's up the individuals conscience...

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:10 PM
doesn't it take quite a bit of money to be artificially inseminated to begin with? I don't believe this procedure is covered by insurance to begin with. So she had to have money from somewhere.

Male2009's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:16 PM
You're obviously a sympathetic employer, and being a woman can empathise with this young lady using artificial insemination. was this her only choice or was this simply her preferred choice, hoping to have a genius child or world famous musician? :) lets just hope her inseminate wasn't a congenital circus dwarf... that may not be spelled correctly, my apology's. :) what matters more is what you decide. do you do the moral thing and let her continue in her new job, or do you put the interest of your business first?

WolfEyez's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:21 PM
if her future is about as promising as mine is, I might just be joining her before I hit 45 and still have no life.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:23 PM

You're obviously a sympathetic employer, and being a woman can empathise with this young lady using artificial insemination. was this her only choice or was this simply her preferred choice, hoping to have a genius child or world famous musician? :) lets just hope her inseminate wasn't a congenital circus dwarf... that may not be spelled correctly, my apology's. :) what matters more is what you decide. do you do the moral thing and let her continue in her new job, or do you put the interest of your business first?


I have not made my decisions as to the final hiring...I want to kind and wish her the best. I have many in need of a job, my decision won't be based on the fact that she is pregnant. Not to sound harsh...nobody gave me a break because I was a divorced mom...

It's not my company and my boss expects me to hire the best, not hire out of sympathy... from what she told me, she choose this.

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:29 PM
Single, no job, applying for a ten buck an hour job, but chooses to get artificially inseminated? Sounds like someone who does not make the best choices in life. Not the type of person I would want working for me.

WolfEyez's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:32 PM

Single, no job, applying for a ten buck an hour job, but chooses to get artificially inseminated? Sounds like someone who does not make the best choices in life. Not the type of person I would want working for me.


Plus she would end up on maternity leave anyway. and what about when the baby is born? can't take the kid to work.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/07/09 03:34 PM

Single, no job, applying for a ten buck an hour job, but chooses to get artificially inseminated? Sounds like someone who does not make the best choices in life. Not the type of person I would want working for me.


Yeah..making decisions next week..kinda how I'm leaning.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:03 PM

The biological urge to have a baby is one of the most intense emotions you can have. Each woman is different, some not feeling that maternal instinct kicking in so readily. Some employers wouldn't allow a pregnant woman into a new job, even though women have baby's... they're the only side of the human race who can - but not on their new employers time. some people are more desperate to have a child in their life, feeling that 'need' to nurture a child. each side has a valid argument...!? which do you put first? that's up the individuals conscience...


maternal instinct...ha
I don't think I had any. Maybe a biological, natural instinct. Not a maternal bone in my body..my poor kids, somehow they survived.laugh

no photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:13 PM

doesn't it take quite a bit of money to be artificially inseminated to begin with? I don't believe this procedure is covered by insurance to begin with. So she had to have money from somewhere.


That's what I'm thinking, it's not cheap to do that, so something's not adding up, she's lying about something. I wouldn't hire her either.

Jules0565's photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:26 PM
Edited by Jules0565 on Sat 11/07/09 04:28 PM
Put the pregnancy factor aside. Did she portray the capable abilities to represent your company to the fullest? Was she qualified to fill the position? As a reminder, you can NOT discriminate due to pregnancy of a person for hire.

I think your emphasis on her age and artificial insemination is playing a major roll in your decision, in which is should not.

no photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:31 PM

Put the pregnancy factor aside. Did she portray the capable abilities to represent your company to the fullest? Was she qualified to fill the position? As a reminder, you can NOT discriminate due to pregnancy of a person for hire.


I don't think it's the pregnancy that's the problem, it's her lack of responsible choices. When you go on a job interview, they ask a lot of questions to gauge how you'd handle yourself in hypothetical situations. They also base their decisions on life choices and things you've done in the past. Deciding to pay a lot of money to become inseminated, and then go out and get a low-paying job that probably requires long hours is not being responsible. It'd be the same thing if she went out and purchased a pet and then left it at home all day with no food, no water, no interaction, nothing. That's the mark of an irresponsible human being.

Jules0565's photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:39 PM


Put the pregnancy factor aside. Did she portray the capable abilities to represent your company to the fullest? Was she qualified to fill the position? As a reminder, you can NOT discriminate due to pregnancy of a person for hire.


I don't think it's the pregnancy that's the problem, it's her lack of responsible choices. When you go on a job interview, they ask a lot of questions to gauge how you'd handle yourself in hypothetical situations. They also base their decisions on life choices and things you've done in the past. Deciding to pay a lot of money to become inseminated, and then go out and get a low-paying job that probably requires long hours is not being responsible. It'd be the same thing if she went out and purchased a pet and then left it at home all day with no food, no water, no interaction, nothing. That's the mark of an irresponsible human being.


Hypothetical situations pertaining to work, not your home life. At least in all of my years of interviewing, they've NEVER asked personal questions pertaining to my home life. And in my opinion the OP overstepped her boundries and made it personal in the interview with her "I went a bit "motherly" on her, she is my son's age and asked her
what the rush is, and told how difficult this would be..
" statement. She doesn't know the whole situation outside of the work environment. It is not up to an employer to give advice on when it's a good time or not to start a family.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:40 PM

Put the pregnancy factor aside. Did she portray the capable abilities to represent your company to the fullest? Was she qualified to fill the position? As a reminder, you can NOT discriminate due to pregnancy of a person for hire.

I think your emphasis on her age and artificial insemination is playing a major roll in your decision, in which is should not.


No your interpretation on my op is not incorrect...
What I'm asking here is should there be some rules or such as far a young single unemployed woman intentionally having a baby and possibly ending up in the system...and her age has nothing to do with it. Most who work for me are young..there are 2 colleges in my town.
I worked through 2 of my 3 pregnancies. This position is semi physical, and it is sales based. I need physically strong employees who can sell. Her resume is not as impressive as some and more than some.
As a mother of 3 who worked and raised children alone I wouldn't, couldn't discriminate because of her situation...

tanyaann's photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:41 PM


Single, no job, applying for a ten buck an hour job, but chooses to get artificially inseminated? Sounds like someone who does not make the best choices in life. Not the type of person I would want working for me.


Plus she would end up on maternity leave anyway. and what about when the baby is born? can't take the kid to work.


Doesn't matter can't discriminate based off someone being pregnant. At least she was honest and disclosed it; she didn't have to do that.

There could be a number of different reasons why she choose to do that and you are right as a possibly employer that isn't your concern... only if she is able to do the job.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/07/09 04:43 PM



Put the pregnancy factor aside. Did she portray the capable abilities to represent your company to the fullest? Was she qualified to fill the position? As a reminder, you can NOT discriminate due to pregnancy of a person for hire.


I don't think it's the pregnancy that's the problem, it's her lack of responsible choices. When you go on a job interview, they ask a lot of questions to gauge how you'd handle yourself in hypothetical situations. They also base their decisions on life choices and things you've done in the past. Deciding to pay a lot of money to become inseminated, and then go out and get a low-paying job that probably requires long hours is not being responsible. It'd be the same thing if she went out and purchased a pet and then left it at home all day with no food, no water, no interaction, nothing. That's the mark of an irresponsible human being.


Hypothetical situations pertaining to work, not your home life. At least in all of my years of interviewing, they've NEVER asked personal questions pertaining to my home life. And in my opinion the OP overstepped her boundries and made it personal in the interview with her "I went a bit "motherly" on her, she is my son's age and asked her
what the rush is, and told how difficult this would be..
" statement. She doesn't know the whole situation outside of the work environment. It is not up to an employer to give advice on when it's a good time or not to start a family.


I did not over step my boundaries...she asked me because she saw a picture of my children on my desk..she bought it up, not me. You are assuming way to much, maybe you should re read the original question again...

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