Hi Mass, AB, everyone,

Sometimes we have to look at something we don't want to see.

There are those who have posted in this thread and others. They
proclaim to be Christians. My understanding of the Christian faith, is
that the ENTIRE faith is based on unconditional love. Love so great
that it would allow a father to offer his daughter up for rape or worse
to save unknown house guests. A love so great that a man would offer
his son to God as an offering, a love so great that a God would give the
life of a human born son to teach and save all his human children.
TRUE????

No matter what other scripture one follows, there is one overall
truth, it is love.

Now there are some here that think they can somehow guide the course
of romantic love. So much so that they obviously have some script with
which to interview a potential mate, as their statments unequivocably
indicate that they would NEVER be able to marry outside the bounds of
their Christian faith. They give two reasons, because it would be too
hard and because God said not to do it.

Do these poeple know what love really is. Is there a person here at
JSH who can say they chose to fall in love, based on a certain set of
parameters?

Then on top of all this they ignore the fact that the Christian faith,
while all believing that Jesus is Christ, can not claim much else in the
way of common beliefs. So what is that about. Sounds to me like their
set parameters only skim the surface of the desired sameness. As they
skim the surface of others and come to the same judgments.

Yet for some reason they hold that it would be easier to marry within
the boundaries of their own faith.

AB WROTE:
""""I think all she was saying is that with over 200,000 differing
Chirstian faiths just being a Christian is not a garontee that two
people would get along.

As all 200,000 have differing beliefs and some of those differences will
cause problems in a marriege."""

Then Bored suddenly changes her tune and begins claiming that it is all
an individual matter. IT IS NOT. To cast love away from you for the
sake of creating an easier life, does not sound to me like the act of a
selfless person. So does that mean that it is so easy to love God that
you only do it because the crutch is an easy one to lean on?

To have the thoughts in the first place is ignorance. It lends truth to
the bias that exists in the hearts of SOME Christians, and it shows only
intorrance of others, for how much love can a Christian have for
anyone, that is not Christian.

For ANYONE to believe there is love in tolerance at all only shows
ignorance. There can only be love in acceptance and until Christians
like Bored and others who posted as she did find acceptance they will
lack the kind of love that touches the spiritual. Therefor, they may as
well set up interviews with all they meet and from the results
catagorize their potential partners, friends and enemies and carriers of
evil.

Ignorance breeds hypocrisy, hypocrisy veils truth and breeds
misunderstanding, and supports bias and bigotry.

Romantic love is viewed by the young with little knowledge. It is
understandable that those who have never experienced this depth of love
this kind of love would confuse their ability to control it.

It is not understandable that they can accept any who claims a Christian
crown as someone worthy of attaining this kind of romantic love with,
without a thought to the differernces between two faiths. Yet if the
crown is present they are worthy. What does this say of tolerance
versus acceptance?

So choose the Christian crown and suffer the thorns as they are afflict
you and stab your heart. One day you will wake up.

I hope you will remember that you can not guide the course of love.
Love can be fettered and it can only be true if is given with innocence
and selflessness.

Thank you Red,

What a wonderful post.

People have to learn that love doesn't happen in the head, but in the
heart. That love, if it is only given on conditions, isn't love at all.
Also we are here on this earth to learn, but how can we learn when we
surround ourselves with people that think and do the same as we
ourselves.

RED
GOD SHOW THAT ONCE HE HEAL ME HE WILL BRING THE WOMAN THAT HE CHOOSE FOR
ME INTO MY LIFE.
i AM SURE THAT HE WILL DO THE SAME FOR BORED.
WE ARE NOT BEING PREJUDICE, JUST BEING FAITHFUL TO JESUS
ED

A christian and a hardcore muslim, will not work, period.




Izzy

I've seen inter faith marriages work, it doesn't matter what faith you
are love prevails, you cannot help who you fall in love with the heart
doesn't see religions nor politics. My brother and sister in law are an
inter faith marriage, She's Jewish and my brother is Catholic...they
have 3 kids and have been married for 13 years, dated for 4 years before
marriage so it works.

oh you know birds of a feather flock together and all the sheep follow a
leader hi Andrea!

IT DOES MATTER AND IT IF YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS IS STRONG YOU WILL
FALL FOR ANOTHER CHRISTIAN EVEN THE JEWS BEFORE JJESUS CAME WERE WARN TO
ONLY MARRIED OTHER BELIEVERS ED

Hi Fred, how's you?????????

whatever Wonderman, you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled
to mine..relax its just a thread nothing to get uptight over

did not know you were sick wonderman i hope you get well soon

God is love and love is God wherever there is good things we thank God
and thats what matters when the love is true, relationships dont
breakup... correct me pls.

Why would any of us want to correct you?

Just because you do not want to get involved with an unbeliever in a
serious relationship or marriage DOES NOT mean you don't love them
unconditionally or you don't love them at all.

Spiritually you might not connect because of your many differences .
Some might and some might not.

I do know personally I won't go there. Not that I'm telling anyone else
not to.

Red from now on I will not respond to your post when upset or when
things just don't click through. I don't find pleasure in constantly
trying to clarify my point without being judged.

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By the way we communicate, isn't it obvious these same problems can
happen in a relationship between a believer and a unbeliever WOW
will you look at that, say it ain't so!
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I don't find pleasure in constantly trying to clarify my point WHILE
being judged or the other user keeps jumping to assumptions.

Redykeulous,

What is up? Why so much hate and animosity? Every post from you is
derogatory to Christians. You aren't a Christian, okay, I'm fine with
that. You can't respect our decisions to only marry people of our own
faith? Why? You are one of the "open-minded" crowd of people, but you
aren't quite open minded enough to respect someones decision about who
they would marry? How much more personal can a decision get than
choosing your spouse?

That's my point exactly spider. I would be fine if Red stated her claim
and defended it but to go on & on about it in disrespect further drives
the point home in our views. Thank you

I respect and acknowledge some may prefer to date outside of beliefs and
values while some others refuse to.

You answer the topic to voice your opinion but leave it at that. There's
no need for a bashing rampage or to stir a debate

Now that I realize my first sentence in the last post..you don't even
have to defend your opinion really, just voice it and explain why for
others to understand. This isn't a debate

Spider writes:
"What is up? Why so much hate and animosity? Every post from you is
derogatory to Christians. You aren't a Christian, okay, I'm fine with
that. "

Oh give it a rest. This whole thread is just a thinly veiled way for
zealots to smuggle in the tenet of "We must confound non-believers at
every turn!", without picking up the tariff for it. Red just pulled
back the veil a bit, and you don't like it.

As for:

"You can't respect our decisions to only marry people of our own
faith? Why? You are one of the "open-minded" crowd of people, but you
aren't quite open minded enough to respect someones decision about who
they would marry? How much more personal can a decision get than
choosing your spouse?"

...oh please. No issue lifts more boats than the gay marriage issue. So
before you go hounding someone else about open-mindedness, you might
want to clean the barnacles off your own, Skipper.

-Kerry O.

KerryO,

What is my position on gay marriage? Opps! I wasn't supposed to ask
that was I? Because the truth is, you have no idea.

Spider,

Apparently it doesn't matter what you nor BoredChicks personal
position on gay marriage is. You are Christian, so us open minded
people are going to make you responsible for the
words/thoughts/opinions/actions of other Christians.