BTW....I was celebate for years in between disasters though.

creationoffire i'm not the only one

what kim said in her first post in this thread

thanks boredchick........glad Im not the only one either
LOL

Hi bored,

I just recently started a relationship with this great guy but it hasn't
gotten to that point yet because I want to take my time and make sure
there is that emotional connection first. My last relationship ended
about five years ago so I've been celibate for five years, but I guess I
still I'm celibate until that corner is turned in our relationship.

Good for you cashay. Smart move to avoid the drama.

Guys aren't about anything today sometimes, just about "that thing that
thinggggggggggggggggggg, that thing.." lauryn hill song

Since 95 I been clean-------days of spreading honey is over.

Good for you. :)

For the right woman I would absolutely agree to a no-sex relationship,
as long as she is still extremely affectionate and intimate, and
accepts/respects that I'm going to need some 'alone time'.

Hey massage once again.

What do you define as intimate?

For example to you is it a hug, kiss, MASSAGE, sexual touches but not
sex ??

Well, really it depends on the whole situation. A woman can be very
warm, very expressive, without involving a lot of physical contact. My
expectations have also been different at different points in my life.

Today, though, if I met a celibate woman who I was totally into, I would
want to sleep together, to be held while falling asleep. I would want
her to touch me affectionately, and thoroughly, with caring.

I think a lot of people are obsessed with sex because of a whole list of
needs which are not directly related to sex... but -sex- is the only
place where they have found those needs being met, so they think they
-need- sex.

yeh too many things are about sex.

I agree with the intimacy concerning snuggling and being held
that's so romanticcckkk..kk tick tock

Oh, to more completely answer your question, about sexual touching - I
was assuming this celibate woman would not want any -genital- contact at
all... hence my 'alone time' comment.

that's my point exactly. That's why I was like what do you define as
intimate..some guys are freaky and try to use the word "intimate" to
disguise their true desires.

Hmmm... Yes, I'm sure some of them are playing dishonest games, but I
think that honest misunderstandings also occur. A _lot_ of people speak
euphemistically, not just players, and we can never be sure what other
people really mean. So many hurt feelings come from simple
misunderstandings.

What I'm saying is, you can't always blame those guys for using
'intimate' as a euphemism for sexual conduct, when the woman they date
are using the same words the same way.

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DISCLAIMER! Lest anyone later call me a hypocrite, I'd like to
emphatically declare that I like sex, and generally speaking I'd prefer
an outright sexual relationship to a copulation-free one. All my
statements above were in response to the OP - context is everything.

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww adj


i know you dont have to be celebate?/


silly ewe!


i know someone who loves ewe very much......


and you betterscoop her up soon!!

ROBIN!!!!!!

huh?---what?---

Go get her, Robin!

not me!!!!!!!!!!

mASSAGE!


HE KNOWS WHO i SPEAK OF

i celebrated 1 year two days ago just too darn picky