I cannot provide proof of what started the galaxy or universe or what started everything, but I do find it very interesting that scientists have found planets that they claim could hold life! 32 of them last time I read an article about it!

Now if only we could find a way to get spaceships like the Star Trek Enterprise to go there. I bet we might find more answers to the questions we have possed for thousands of years if we could get off this planet and out of this universe.

Happy Halloween everybody by the way!

Smiles,

I don't think the answer to the mystery of life and the universe lies in going to other planets. There are questions to be answered here that have not been answered. Other planets will just have more of the same.

Of course there is life in this Galaxy. Why would there not be? But we can't maintain peace on this tiny planet, so we have no business taking our crap to another one.

So the correct logic is much simpler: In all cases where the source of order is known, it is the direct result of purposeful intent by a designer. Therefore any order (where the cause is unknown) may reasonably be assumed to have been the direct result of intention and purpose by a designer.

you know the source of the universe?

I love when I am told that the evidence of a creator or design is right in front of me!

It is right there! Just look!

So I look at a computer screen, my coke can, some books, a few papers I crumbled up because I suffer writer's block, and a broken pencil that I am too lazy to throw in the garbage can.

I don't see anything!

Then I thought about it. Very true what they say.

WE do worship our computers way too much don't we!

It must be Bill Gates.

Yet strangely the only ones arguing for design are heavily religious.

All known designs = P

The universe = Q

P has 1(intent), 2(purpose), 3(order), 4(designer)

Q seems to have 3

How does the rest follow?

Both apple pie and coffee have sugar. Is an apple pie a drink because of that and that alone? Is coffee a dessert because of that and that alone?

The universe cannot be logically said to be a design simply because it seems to share the attribute of order.

It not a limited 'amount' of something. On the contary, it a huge amount of a very few and very special unique things. Things that quantum physics shows us are not 'happenstance' at all but are being 'created' be very strict rules.

Secondly, the fact that those 'few' different things are indeed extremely few (only about 100 of them), and it is only these extremely few parts that automatically come together to produce such complex self-programing living beings, totally flies in the face of anything that could even remotely be called "happenstance".

So happenstance (as we know it) must be ruled out.

The only way to keep "happenstance" is to accept that our particular universe is an extremely rare event. In fact, to support this hypothesis what is usually offered is that there are actually infinitely many universes and we just happen to be in one of the extremely few where this condition was right (by happenstance)

But what does that say. All that says, is that we recognize that the univere is not happenstance if it only happened ONCE. But if we pretend that there are infinitely many "failed" universes then we can justify calling this univerese "happenstance".

So to believe in this hypothesis requires having faith there there exists infinitely many random "Failed" universe.

All that just to avoid having to confess that this universe is so special that it could never reasonably be considered to be happenstance in its own right.

How hard-up are we to be atheists?

We'd rather place our faith in an imagined infinity of failed universes just to claim that this one is 'happenstance' rather than to consider that we might not be the only conscious intelligent minds around?

Not only is that silly, but it's quite an arrogant human-centric thing to do too doncha think?