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Come, now. This is childish. Noone OWES you anything. You EARN it. You want kids, save up the money and pay for it yourself. If this mindset is prevalent, it's no WONDER the government thinks it needs to raise us like little children.  
Do you really think it's all that easy in the world we live in now? In most cases parents need to work two jobs, and sometimes even that isn't always enough. Look, I understand that the government can't do everything for us, and I agree we rely on them more then we perhaps should. But in a case like this, especially considering the times we are in, I think newborn parents deserve whatever help they can get. No, it's not easy. That's why you're SUPPOSED to be responsible and only have kids when you can afford them. This is a function that used to be served by churches. Perhaps church communities need to make a comeback. I understand your point, but.....children don't always come when you expect them to, and sometimes come at a time you may not neccessarily be as prepared as you want to be. But whatever the case they are there one way or the other. It's easy to say that one should only have kids when they can afford them, but it's not always as simple as that. of course you can choose to excuse a lack of personal responsibility with all kinds of "unexpecteds" and "not quite reaedy" our you can applaud personal responsibility when you see it and chastise where it is lacking. personal responsibility has taken a back seat to entitlements. these unexpected pregnancies don't have to happen in the numbers that the do but they will continue to happen as long as we keep saying "but it's not always as simple as that". preventing pregnacy is as simple as that. |
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Come, now. This is childish. Noone OWES you anything. You EARN it. You want kids, save up the money and pay for it yourself. If this mindset is prevalent, it's no WONDER the government thinks it needs to raise us like little children.
Hey Heavenly boy! We finally agree! Here's my take...Mother wants a baby she should have the baby and stay home and raise the baby. Not a nanny or daycare center. Husband(remember those?) should make enough money to provide for Mother and baby. No government control or help. I agree with you overall. The only change I would suggest is that you not require the mother to stay home and the father to work. What if the mother had the higher paying job? That was teh basis for me and my ex-wife when our first-born was born. She was inthe army active duty and I was working part time minimium wage. We decided together that she would stay in the army, andI would stay home taking care of our son as that provided us with far more financial options as well as an adequate health plan. I am not embearassed to say that I, a man, chose to be a homemaker and child raiser. It allowed my children to have one parent home at all times. Now the only problem with this scenario is the fact that most families can not AFFORD to keep one parent home with the children. What do we do about that problem? |
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Mon 10/26/09 11:32 PM
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The time, when the husband makes enough money to support a family was over a long long long time ago.
People needs to realize this. Let's not forget all the women who divorced, separated or never married and has one or more children. ..That's about 90% of the women you see on the mingle right here, just browse around. I bet many marriages go to waste, thanks to the fact, that they either not gonna have children or hire a nanny and both parents work. Eventually they don't even meet each other or the relationship goes cold. Daddy or Mommy might cheat with an co-worker or have a relationship, because they see their co-workers more times than their own families. How about younger girls, who have a baby but no father in sight? They either depend on their parents or end up quickly grabbing a man (not love) which of course ends in a disaster. Unless you work on Wall Street. Then, you can support 10-15 families from your salary. |
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msharmony
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Mon 10/26/09 11:49 PM
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Come, now. This is childish. Noone OWES you anything. You EARN it. You want kids, save up the money and pay for it yourself. If this mindset is prevalent, it's no WONDER the government thinks it needs to raise us like little children.
Unfortunately this is the only way we can ever be free. Either we take care of ourselves, or we will have masters that take care of us. I dont know of anyone who is completely free by that definition. I know people from france and switzerland and even the UK and they dont seem to be any less free even though their tax money goes to things that actually help them and their families,,like maternity leave. I dont think US is letting families down because we are a little behind on this front though. We cant be leaders in everything and sometimes we are bound to play catch up. I would like to see more emphasis on the front end of the equation though. Jobs that have stability and living wages to support a family on one income would be a great start. A focus in the community and the media on the significance of homes with a mother and a father working as a team would be another start as well as a more responsible, respectful, portrayal of sex and sexual partnerships. It all starts at home but it doesnt end when it hits the community,, everyone has their part. |
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Come, now. This is childish. Noone OWES you anything. You EARN it. You want kids, save up the money and pay for it yourself. If this mindset is prevalent, it's no WONDER the government thinks it needs to raise us like little children.
Hey Heavenly boy! We finally agree! Here's my take...Mother wants a baby she should have the baby and stay home and raise the baby. Not a nanny or daycare center. Husband(remember those?) should make enough money to provide for Mother and baby. No government control or help. Why can't hubby stay home? |
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Oprah had one on Denmark, and it really hits home how behind the times we are with regards to Europe. Kids are supposed to be sacred here in the US, yet everyone is deathly afraid to take to much time off for fear of losing their jobs. YEp! You're correct there, Kitteh! |
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Come, now. This is childish. Noone OWES you anything. You EARN it. You want kids, save up the money and pay for it yourself. If this mindset is prevalent, it's no WONDER the government thinks it needs to raise us like little children.
Do you really think it's all that easy in the world we live in now? In most cases parents need to work two jobs, and sometimes even that isn't always enough. Look, I understand that the government can't do everything for us, and I agree we rely on them more then we perhaps should. But in a case like this, especially considering the times we are in, I think newborn parents deserve whatever help they can get. No, it's not easy. That's why you're SUPPOSED to be responsible and only have kids when you can afford them. This is a function that used to be served by churches. Perhaps church communities need to make a comeback. Unless you're recommending a temporary for or sterilizing people until they can afford to have kids, I don't know how that's going to work. We can't even get decent sex education taught in public schools, and there's enough parents who don't have the brains to talk to their kids. |
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Come, now. This is childish. Noone OWES you anything. You EARN it. You want kids, save up the money and pay for it yourself. If this mindset is prevalent, it's no WONDER the government thinks it needs to raise us like little children.
Hey Heavenly boy! We finally agree! Here's my take...Mother wants a baby she should have the baby and stay home and raise the baby. Not a nanny or daycare center. Husband(remember those?) should make enough money to provide for Mother and baby. No government control or help. I agree with you overall. The only change I would suggest is that you not require the mother to stay home and the father to work. What if the mother had the higher paying job? That was teh basis for me and my ex-wife when our first-born was born. She was inthe army active duty and I was working part time minimium wage. We decided together that she would stay in the army, andI would stay home taking care of our son as that provided us with far more financial options as well as an adequate health plan. I am not embearassed to say that I, a man, chose to be a homemaker and child raiser. It allowed my children to have one parent home at all times. Now the only problem with this scenario is the fact that most families can not AFFORD to keep one parent home with the children. What do we do about that problem? Well said! And good for you. Mom made less, and she stayed home. More the fact that she was a latch-key kid and didn't want to do that to us, then the whole male/female role. |
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