I would think that for lucid dreaming, the more control you have over either your dream life or this one, the more control you gain over the other.

Well said.

And many people fear power, even though it's a matter of learning how to deal with it, use it, but not abuse it.

The phrase Knowledge is Power is good, but should also be Power becomes Wisdom.

I don't totally agree with that. I do think there needs to be some control, obviously, but even if you believe that it's your mind rearranging and talking to you, if you control it to tightly, then you only learn what you want to learn. For those who believe its a higher power, then you are still refusing to allow that higher power to communicate with you, because at that point you are hearing what you want to hear.

Allow me to rephrase that. Once you can control your dreams enough to dream a double of your physical body, then you can use that dreamed body as your body in the real world. This enables you to change reality a bit more than you would be able to otherwise. Do things like fly or vanish or teleport. The real trick though, is total memorization and visualization. Using both and intent a whole different world could be created and even sustained, as long as the focus was held on it anyway. The more attention used, the more the real it would be. That's about where my knowledge of dreaming sort of stops. It's the fourth gate, dreaming in someone else's intended world.

Your already astral traveling during sleep anyway...the lucid dreaming just gives you more control of the voyage...so to speak.

Ahh, okay gotcha! Yes, on that I fully agree with you.

And it's an odd experience, let me tell you. Especially when the other person verifies it.

the question becomes how do one know that they are not doing this right now

how do one know that they are not indeed creating and manifesting their own reality ..technically reality is that which exist beyond the mind and technically it is the mind that ultimate create the reality it supposedly perceives

supposedly being able to consciously control one's subconscious supposedly will give them the power of a god and with that power comes the ability to alter reality with just a thought ...so how does one know that they are not in fact using this ability and creating in their mind or perhaps beyond their mind all that exist around them

I'm pretty certain that the subconscious part of the mind, or part of it, since it is equally as expansive as the conscious mind, is doing exactly that all the time we are awake. (and asleep too) the whole idea is to use your own death, which is the strange force that binds you together, to (through dreaming/meditations/practice) take a more conscious and aware role in handling that aspect of yourself. So the hard part, or the uniting of both sides is accomplished through the brain wave and frequency changes that are brought around during death, basically. The trick is to die while still alive. Basically surrender without surrendering completely, sort of bend in the wind with it. Sorry I meandered there for a moment. I say we all do it (create our own universes) right now, and a part of us even knows that. Reality is multi-layered, like all really good art.

Keep in mind that an intended world, only exists in one place, the mind of the person who memorized it. Outside of that, there would be nothing, so in order to have a whole planet, let alone a whole universe, let alone an infinite number of independent expanding universes, the mind that memorized it all would have to be really smart. As far as if this reality is anything more than a unique intended world, we will have to explore space and find out I think. Like an intended world would be a false one, it would be utterly real the people there have thoughts, but it is all a memory, a dream. It's almost as if life is a really really really neat video game or movie. I mean I understand that everyone is unique, but we are all also linked into the same thing, so we are all interconnected too.

probably the only redeeming quality about Death is that you die before you are dead ...which brings up the question how can one use their death or imagine their death if they do not know what death truely is ..even if one claim reincarnation they can only tell of their past lives or when or how they died but will not have any "new unknown knowledge" pertaining to death itself

each person's own death is the very center of you, not your body, but you. it is just like a miniature black hole, and upon actual death, most people go through it, towards the light. (That's why people have the feeling of a dark tunnel.) This is the tiny bit of primordial nothingness that binds the spirit to the flesh. That's what I mean by use your death, you have to know yourself well enough first, but once you do, you will know what I was talking about.

sounds like Basic Buddhism ...a soul's migration/death and reintergration/reincarnation