Topic: If this does not scare you nothing will
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Thu 10/08/09 09:41 PM





politicizing the Bible?

you don't change the Bible to suit your politics

you change your politics to suit the Bible


the bible was created to suit political needs

but if only you were correct

lets get real here

christmas was a political assignment of the birth of christ

if they change his birthday for political gain then how can you trust any of it

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


Jesus' b-day wasn't changed for political reasons, but to assimilate the traditional holidays before Christianity, the Winter Soltice, which even wikipedia states wrong, because it wasn't just a Roman holiday but many other pagan nations (inside and outside the Roman empire) celebrated the winter solstice in one way or another.


that is a political agenda to convert those of other thought process to the christianity thought process

politics at it rawest form



Come on you can't except me to believe this crock???Where in public schools is Christianity being teached?They don't even put Christmas on public school calanders anymore because it is associtated with Christianity.I know in your fantasy world you would love to pretend our children in public schools are getting brainwashed with Christian propaganda so you can just find one more excuse to insult the Christians.But the reality is that the liberals have taken every single idea,word,and thought of Christianity(including silent prayer)out of public schools.


Pay attention, no one is saying christianity is currently being taught in PUBLIC schools. The concern would be that that is a goal of the radical christian right.

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Fri 10/09/09 05:49 AM





politicizing the Bible?

you don't change the Bible to suit your politics

you change your politics to suit the Bible


the bible was created to suit political needs

but if only you were correct

lets get real here

christmas was a political assignment of the birth of christ

if they change his birthday for political gain then how can you trust any of it

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


Jesus' b-day wasn't changed for political reasons, but to assimilate the traditional holidays before Christianity, the Winter Soltice, which even wikipedia states wrong, because it wasn't just a Roman holiday but many other pagan nations (inside and outside the Roman empire) celebrated the winter solstice in one way or another.


that is a political agenda to convert those of other thought process to the christianity thought process

politics at it rawest form



Come on you can't except me to believe this crock???Where in public schools is Christianity being teached?They don't even put Christmas on public school calanders anymore because it is associtated with Christianity.I know in your fantasy world you would love to pretend our children in public schools are getting brainwashed with Christian propaganda so you can just find one more excuse to insult the Christians.But the reality is that the liberals have taken every single idea,word,and thought of Christianity(including silent prayer)out of public schools.

Really?

Is that so...?

Why then do they break for christmas?

When was the last time one of your children was out of school because of Ramadan?

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Fri 10/09/09 07:27 AM





politicizing the Bible?

you don't change the Bible to suit your politics

you change your politics to suit the Bible


the bible was created to suit political needs

but if only you were correct

lets get real here

christmas was a political assignment of the birth of christ

if they change his birthday for political gain then how can you trust any of it

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


Jesus' b-day wasn't changed for political reasons, but to assimilate the traditional holidays before Christianity, the Winter Soltice, which even wikipedia states wrong, because it wasn't just a Roman holiday but many other pagan nations (inside and outside the Roman empire) celebrated the winter solstice in one way or another.


that is a political agenda to convert those of other thought process to the christianity thought process

politics at it rawest form



Come on you can't except me to believe this crock???Where in public schools is Christianity being teached?They don't even put Christmas on public school calanders anymore because it is associtated with Christianity.I know in your fantasy world you would love to pretend our children in public schools are getting brainwashed with Christian propaganda so you can just find one more excuse to insult the Christians.But the reality is that the liberals have taken every single idea,word,and thought of Christianity(including silent prayer)out of public schools.


you must have quoted the wrong post as nothing was said about christianity in schools in your quoted posts

the birth of christ was about july astronomically shown as those that followed the star pointed out

and to say it is in december to convert the non-believer is a tristing of the facts (lieing) to get a growth on membership thuss changing the social layout of society

that is political agenda at its best

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Fri 10/09/09 09:26 AM
Freedom of religion is cast in stone. An undeniable constitutional fact.

Separation of Church and State is an interpretation. You'll not find the words Separation of Church and State anywhere in the Constitution.

You really want to make this argument?


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Fri 10/09/09 09:27 AM
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Fri 10/09/09 09:52 AM

Freedom of religion is cast in stone. An undeniable constitutional fact.

Separation of Church and State is an interpretation. You'll not find the words Separation of Church and State anywhere in the Constitution.

You really want to make this argument?




It should be freedom FROM religion. But I don't have time to argue it anyway.

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Fri 10/09/09 09:55 AM
I guess nothing will scare me... cuz this don't.

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Fri 10/09/09 12:28 PM
you know how you can spot a true christian at night . he'll be the ones looking in his neighbor's window .

InvictusV's photo
Fri 10/09/09 12:35 PM


Freedom of religion is cast in stone. An undeniable constitutional fact.

Separation of Church and State is an interpretation. You'll not find the words Separation of Church and State anywhere in the Constitution.

You really want to make this argument?




It should be freedom FROM religion. But I don't have time to argue it anyway.


You can get all your friends together and start a petition to amend the constitution.

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Fri 10/09/09 12:39 PM


Freedom of religion is cast in stone. An undeniable constitutional fact.

Separation of Church and State is an interpretation. You'll not find the words Separation of Church and State anywhere in the Constitution.

You really want to make this argument?




It should be freedom FROM religion. But I don't have time to argue it anyway.


says you.. fact remains it is not..

There might as well be a freedom from being offended. it'll never happen. you don't have the right to impede someone else's religious practices, whether they be christian, jewish, muslim or flying spaghtetti monster..

The way the first amendment was written it was specifically designed against protecting anyone from religion.. It's impossible to protect "freedom of" and "freedom from" at the same time.. you don't like the way someone prays? too bad.. walk away, turn off the tv, the radio, pull your kid out of school. do whatever you feel like you must, that's your freedom. but it's not your freedom, neither is it your right or imperitive to keep someone from practicing their faith as they see fit..

sorry.. if you don't like people practicing christianity, move to saudi or France.. they're perfectly happy to restrict your freedom of religion there..

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Fri 10/09/09 12:42 PM
see my posts in the other thread

I REFUSE TO REPEAT THEM AND YA CAN'T MAKE ME

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Fri 10/09/09 12:46 PM

sorry.. if you don't like people practicing christianity, move to saudi or France.. they're perfectly happy to restrict your freedom of religion there..


Just responding to above quote - what makes this a solution??? When all else fails, tell them to leave.

I could careless whether a person wants to pray to God, Allah, or the Jolly Green Giant?




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Fri 10/09/09 12:47 PM


sorry.. if you don't like people practicing christianity, move to saudi or France.. they're perfectly happy to restrict your freedom of religion there..


Just responding to above quote - what makes this a solution??? When all else fails, tell them to leave.

I could careless whether a person wants to pray to God, Allah, or the Jolly Green Giant?






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Fri 10/09/09 12:55 PM
Edited by boo2u on Fri 10/09/09 12:56 PM



Freedom of religion is cast in stone. An undeniable constitutional fact.

Separation of Church and State is an interpretation. You'll not find the words Separation of Church and State anywhere in the Constitution.

You really want to make this argument?




It should be freedom FROM religion. But I don't have time to argue it anyway.


says you.. fact remains it is not..

There might as well be a freedom from being offended. it'll never happen. you don't have the right to impede someone else's religious practices, whether they be christian, jewish, muslim or flying spaghtetti monster..

The way the first amendment was written it was specifically designed against protecting anyone from religion.. It's impossible to protect "freedom of" and "freedom from" at the same time.. you don't like the way someone prays? too bad.. walk away, turn off the tv, the radio, pull your kid out of school. do whatever you feel like you must, that's your freedom. but it's not your freedom, neither is it your right or imperitive to keep someone from practicing their faith as they see fit..

sorry.. if you don't like people practicing christianity, move to saudi or France.. they're perfectly happy to restrict your freedom of religion there..


Geez read much into that tiny word, FROM?

I have no problem with what someone believes, how they practice those beliefs in the privacy of their own homes or churches or private schools. Frankly I am too old to give a crap about changing anything. I won't be the one that has to deal with religion expanding it's influence in government or in public places. But I will make remarks any time fundamentalists try to step over the line into my life.

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Fri 10/09/09 01:02 PM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Fri 10/09/09 01:05 PM


sorry.. if you don't like people practicing christianity, move to saudi or France.. they're perfectly happy to restrict your freedom of religion there..


Just responding to above quote - what makes this a solution??? When all else fails, tell them to leave.

I could careless whether a person wants to pray to God, Allah, or the Jolly Green Giant?






I'm not telling her to leave.. just pointing out the alternatives and the places that enact the kinds of policies that achieve what ends she seeks here.

Geez read much into that tiny word, FROM?

I have no problem with what someone believes, how they practice those beliefs in the privacy of their own homes or churches or private schools. Frankly I am too old to give a crap about changing anything. I won't be the one that has to deal with religion expanding it's influence in government or in public places. But I will make remarks any time fundamentalists try to step over the line into my life.


It's not a tiny word at all.. else you wouldn't have capitalized it. you know exactly the implication made by and the distinction between freedom of and freedom from. In some islamic countries, they have freedom from christianity being practiced in their presence. The price? authoritarianism.

Is authoritarianism what you seek? That's what it means to tell people that they only have their religious freedoms within the confines of the walls of their own homes..

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Fri 10/09/09 01:04 PM



sorry.. if you don't like people practicing christianity, move to saudi or France.. they're perfectly happy to restrict your freedom of religion there..


Just responding to above quote - what makes this a solution??? When all else fails, tell them to leave.

I could careless whether a person wants to pray to God, Allah, or the Jolly Green Giant?




I'm not telling her to leave.. just pointing out the alternatives and the places that enact the kinds of policies that achieve what she the ends she seeks here.



Thank you for clarifying waving

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Fri 10/09/09 01:26 PM




sorry.. if you don't like people practicing christianity, move to saudi or France.. they're perfectly happy to restrict your freedom of religion there..


Just responding to above quote - what makes this a solution??? When all else fails, tell them to leave.

I could careless whether a person wants to pray to God, Allah, or the Jolly Green Giant?




I'm not telling her to leave.. just pointing out the alternatives and the places that enact the kinds of policies that achieve what she the ends she seeks here.



Thank you for clarifying waving



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Fri 10/09/09 01:30 PM
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Fri 10/09/09 01:31 PM

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Fri 10/09/09 01:38 PM


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