Topic: Proving God Does Exist
earthytaurus76's photo
Tue 09/22/09 03:36 AM

s1owhand's photo
Tue 09/22/09 03:37 AM

Which creator? huh


laugh

The power which is responsible for the universe.

laugh

4974's photo
Tue 09/22/09 05:16 AM
as i have said before, watch a baby being born...all the proof i need

earthytaurus76's photo
Tue 09/22/09 08:35 AM

as i have said before, watch a baby being born...all the proof i need


I thought the same thing last night after I read some responses here.

TBRich's photo
Tue 09/22/09 10:48 AM
* I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
* Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
* Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38)


See, I am pretty sure it says right in the Bible that your g-d created evil.

no photo
Tue 09/22/09 03:19 PM
I don't care what you all say, god cancels out his own beliefs in the bible, ANY bible. if you don;t believe it, then read it. And also, I really did not believe that he WOULD write music, he was smart enogh to WRITE it though, but hey, I would love to listen to it if it is still floating around here somewhere. That would most certianly shut me up.

earthytaurus76's photo
Wed 09/23/09 12:23 AM

I don't care what you all say, god cancels out his own beliefs in the bible, ANY bible. if you don;t believe it, then read it. And also, I really did not believe that he WOULD write music, he was smart enogh to WRITE it though, but hey, I would love to listen to it if it is still floating around here somewhere. That would most certianly shut me up.


Go on your own freakin google search, you have a computer.

earthytaurus76's photo
Wed 09/23/09 12:30 AM
Edited by earthytaurus76 on Wed 09/23/09 12:38 AM

* I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
* Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
* Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38)


See, I am pretty sure it says right in the Bible that your g-d created evil.


What if God DID create evil?

Are you saying hes evil because he created it? I just think your trying to turn things around, and say that God is evil because you want people to question God, or themselves.

If God DID create evil, I would still believe in him the same.

Life is about lessons, and many believe that God allowing evil gives people choices, and tests of their faith.


Because YOU dont understand the bible, and the way it is written doesnt mean you should go around trying to perpetuate YOUR own confusion. Now THATS evil. The bible was written in parables, and you have to reference different parts to make sense of some other parts.. BUT you choose to quote one thing, and make no understanding toward the other.

Ha, believe what you want.. im not here to recruit.. make your own destiny. Do you post because you had some told you youre wrong? I mean its OBVIOUS you have choices as to how to live your own life.

So then I suppose you are just as guilty of living your life a certain way, because someone told you so huh? And they call us a herd. *rolls eyes*

Why do you post about something you dont believe in over and over?

Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or yourself?


Why do I post on what I believe in? Because it is how I live my life.. not how I dont.. actually, it seems YOU are recruiting.. Imagine that.. Knock knockkkk "there is no God".. and people like you complain about the witnesses. *shakes head*

tohyup's photo
Wed 09/23/09 02:27 AM
The existence or non existence of one God or multiple Gods or no God at all is very complex and beyond human understanding at the present time since neither science nor philosophy provide any proof whatsoever in this regard . If God created us then who created this God of ours......?....etc . Religions and I mean all religions have only blah, blah and blah with no proof and no logic attached to them . Who really needs blah, blah and blah...?!!!.

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Wed 09/23/09 10:17 AM


* I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
* Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
* Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38)


See, I am pretty sure it says right in the Bible that your g-d created evil.


What if God DID create evil?

Are you saying hes evil because he created it? I just think your trying to turn things around, and say that God is evil because you want people to question God, or themselves.

If God DID create evil, I would still believe in him the same.

Life is about lessons, and many believe that God allowing evil gives people choices, and tests of their faith.


Because YOU dont understand the bible, and the way it is written doesnt mean you should go around trying to perpetuate YOUR own confusion. Now THATS evil. The bible was written in parables, and you have to reference different parts to make sense of some other parts.. BUT you choose to quote one thing, and make no understanding toward the other.

Ha, believe what you want.. im not here to recruit.. make your own destiny. Do you post because you had some told you youre wrong? I mean its OBVIOUS you have choices as to how to live your own life.

So then I suppose you are just as guilty of living your life a certain way, because someone told you so huh? And they call us a herd. *rolls eyes*

Why do you post about something you dont believe in over and over?

Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or yourself?


Why do I post on what I believe in? Because it is how I live my life.. not how I dont.. actually, it seems YOU are recruiting.. Imagine that.. Knock knockkkk "there is no God".. and people like you complain about the witnesses. *shakes head*


As an aside, if God exists and has the powers you attribute to him, there is no need for government. (one of the most important concepts of Christian Anarchism).

earthytaurus76's photo
Wed 09/23/09 09:18 PM
Edited by earthytaurus76 on Wed 09/23/09 09:19 PM



* I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
* Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
* Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38)


See, I am pretty sure it says right in the Bible that your g-d created evil.


What if God DID create evil?

Are you saying hes evil because he created it? I just think your trying to turn things around, and say that God is evil because you want people to question God, or themselves.

If God DID create evil, I would still believe in him the same.

Life is about lessons, and many believe that God allowing evil gives people choices, and tests of their faith.


Because YOU dont understand the bible, and the way it is written doesnt mean you should go around trying to perpetuate YOUR own confusion. Now THATS evil. The bible was written in parables, and you have to reference different parts to make sense of some other parts.. BUT you choose to quote one thing, and make no understanding toward the other.

Ha, believe what you want.. im not here to recruit.. make your own destiny. Do you post because you had some told you youre wrong? I mean its OBVIOUS you have choices as to how to live your own life.

So then I suppose you are just as guilty of living your life a certain way, because someone told you so huh? And they call us a herd. *rolls eyes*

Why do you post about something you dont believe in over and over?

Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or yourself?


Why do I post on what I believe in? Because it is how I live my life.. not how I dont.. actually, it seems YOU are recruiting.. Imagine that.. Knock knockkkk "there is no God".. and people like you complain about the witnesses. *shakes head*


As an aside, if God exists and has the powers you attribute to him, there is no need for government. (one of the most important concepts of Christian Anarchism).


Free will as a way for us to learn to appreciate what we have is a pretty good trade off in my opinion. Being able to experience is golden.

But very nice wordiness.

ssJMichael's photo
Wed 09/23/09 09:38 PM
yeah right...science is absolute

AllenAqua's photo
Wed 09/23/09 09:38 PM


* I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
* Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6, KJV)
* Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good? (Lamentations 3:38)


See, I am pretty sure it says right in the Bible that your g-d created evil.


What if God DID create evil?

Are you saying hes evil because he created it? I just think your trying to turn things around, and say that God is evil because you want people to question God, or themselves.

If God DID create evil, I would still believe in him the same.

Life is about lessons, and many believe that God allowing evil gives people choices, and tests of their faith.


Because YOU dont understand the bible, and the way it is written doesnt mean you should go around trying to perpetuate YOUR own confusion. Now THATS evil. The bible was written in parables, and you have to reference different parts to make sense of some other parts.. BUT you choose to quote one thing, and make no understanding toward the other.

Ha, believe what you want.. im not here to recruit.. make your own destiny. Do you post because you had some told you youre wrong? I mean its OBVIOUS you have choices as to how to live your own life.

So then I suppose you are just as guilty of living your life a certain way, because someone told you so huh? And they call us a herd. *rolls eyes*

Why do you post about something you dont believe in over and over?

Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or yourself?


Why do I post on what I believe in? Because it is how I live my life.. not how I dont.. actually, it seems YOU are recruiting.. Imagine that.. Knock knockkkk "there is no God".. and people like you complain about the witnesses. *shakes head*




wtg! :thumbsup:

davidben1's photo
Wed 09/23/09 09:46 PM
"god" is just the "voice" of love in each human's head, that tries to convince to forgive, to look at oneself, instead of looking "out there" to base what self is, the voice, the yearning, to love rather than to be loved...



what would anyone know of good, what point of reference would there be, without evil in the world, creating the impossible...

the ability of "seeing" and "feeling", what makes one like other's as much as itself...

what is evil, but only the one that still know's not, that to make someone serve you, to create harm and malice, is worthless after tasted...

to not have pity on such is to become but the same...


tohyup's photo
Thu 09/24/09 04:11 AM

yeah right...science is absolute

For sure science does NOT contain contradictions like religions .
Yeah science is supreme when it comes to the truth .
drinker drinker .

Giovinetta's photo
Sat 10/03/09 07:09 AM
*Sigh*
Why do people keep posting this? It's completly moronic and doesn't prove anything.

Shasta1's photo
Sat 10/03/09 09:44 PM
The Bible was written by man. Hundreds upon hundreds of years after occurences. Words that were passed down generation to generation, and as stories change hands...people added and took away.. Written by at first to instill fear then later, the New Testament...to show really who God is. There is absolutley no proof, no one can say actually what was said, what happened. Look now at the NIV version compared to say...The King James version. Vast changes in single words take on new meanings....
Yes, parables, psalms etc, etc all to ones own interpetations.

Foliel's photo
Sun 10/04/09 09:59 AM
Edited by Foliel on Sun 10/04/09 10:05 AM
The way I see it, if the christian god does exist then so must all the other gods & goddesses that came before as will the ones that come after. Every religion has a twilight of the gods, when that god ceases to exist. This has been happening for thousands of years and will continue to happen until the extinction of humanity.

Giving birth to a baby proves nothing to me beyond the fact that a woman and a man had intercourse without protection.

*edited because there was something I just didn't like how it came out.

Shasta1's photo
Sun 10/04/09 07:53 PM
I agree with you...you must be a thinker...:wink:

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Sun 10/04/09 08:07 PM


yeah right...science is absolute

For sure science does NOT contain contradictions like religions .
Yeah science is supreme when it comes to the truth .
drinker drinker .


Yes, but the scientific method can only explain observable phenomena. The rest is up to philosophy and religion.