Made himself a figurehead for an unconstitutional welfare program that Americans cannot afford and the statistical majority don't want. (survey here-http://www.gallup.com/poll/121814/more-disapprove-than-approve-obama-healthcare.aspx) However, it would be more rational to direct anger towards congress and the various authors of the bill. Americans, however, being brought up to be sheep, don't understand this, so they continue to yap about Obama while Congress and the FED continues to chip away at their wealth and individual liberties.

Statistical majority?

There are quite a few black folks who do not trust white folks. I know I wouldn't having put up with the racism I have seen myself perpetrated against them even today.

Trust is built over time, it does not come easily.

LOL, I think they think because they are the squeaky wheel they are the largest wheel...lol

I wouldnt begrudge any black who lived in the south under jim crow for having a bit of a chip on the sjhoulder, but since then they have been given every advantage and the institutional racism is now a white only affair. I was denied an officers program when in the military due to racial quotas. I had the high score, but the highest latino score got it. So are you going to now stick up for me if I hate on black people?

Thats an argument only made by limp wristed intellectuals. Blacks hate whites for the same reason whites hate blacks.

We tribalize the same way dogs form packs. Its instinctual. Its the same reason the gators hate the seminoles or green bay hates the vikings. Black racism is not a result of white discrimination and white racism has nothing to do with the mass rape and killing of whites by blacks. Youll have about as much success stopping racism as stopping people from having sex or taking a leak in the morning.

And none of it has anything to do with the opposition to obama, kerry got treated just as bad and he was a crusty old white yankee.

Well said!

Sorry Tj, I just respectfully disagree with you. There are people who have a big problem with his race 'among' those that are protesting for other reasons. I don't think anyone has suggested otherwise. No one is saying it's ALL about race. As for agendas, we went through 8 years of the republcan agenda, I'm for letting Obama have the time to try his agenda, after all the republicans are not going to compremise and refuse to. And we already saw what they did with the power in their hands. I don't agree with everything he wants to do... but I am watching closely.

I do not believe Obama's health plan is bad for america, but I will agree that the half hearted plan from Baucus Is bad.

Personally I think the atmosphere is so inflamed no one is going to get anything resembling a decent plan that helps the people. AT that point it should just fail and let the people live with what the insurers will continue to do to more and more americans.

I'm so over this, I almost wish WE could just vote on the final bill and be done with it one way or the other.

Sadly, most of this was racist propaganda running points that are designed to belittle the black struggle in this country.

Brewer, though you are not over-simplifying the race issue as much as some others are, I feel you are still doing so in this post, maybe even trivializing it.

But lets look at one example you gave, because I think it illustrates a good point - 'green bay hates the vikings'. This did not arise spontaneously, this is a massive self-perpetuating cultural phenomena. It may prey on some 'basic drives', but all that is 'the cultural phenemena of team loyalty' did not spring from our genome intact - it has been nursed and groomed by a variety of forces. The same is true for many aspect of racism.


Instead of saying "stopping people from having sex or taking a leak in the morning", I think it would be more meaningful to say "stop people from raping, or urinating their beds in the morning". We have a degree of choice in our actions - we have created a culture with far lower incidences of rape than many previous cultures. We can similarly reduce racism, but not if we blindly accept it as inevitable.

People could say that your investigate skills are lacking as well. You took the propaganda of the far right to heart. Problem is that either side can call eachothers views propoganda, we typically just go round and round in here.

That doesn't help them psychologically when they see white women hold their purses tighter when a black man walks by or steps on the elevator. That doesn't help them when they see people lock their car doors when they are around. That doesn't help them when they go to a store and they are watched closer then white people. That doesn't help them when white people won't rent apts. or houses to them. That doesn't help them when they are walking or driving down a street in a white neighborhood and people stare at them. There are more things too.

Those things do affect people. I've seen these things. I've also seen a 6 yr. old boy visiting his white friend in the white neighborhood. I saw a carload of white kids yell out the windows, "Hey N, go home."

And ya wonder why they might not trust us?!

Well as someone posted that we are sore losers, that one has no clue. It's his policies that I abhor. I don't hate him, I don't hate, but I hate everything he stands for. I didn't vote for him because he is black, I didn't vote for him because his soul is.

Go ahead folks call me a racist, it's apparent some don't know what that is.

This is a republic, not a democracy, trust me you dont want to vote on every issue, the best policy is to not have the government sticking their nose in a bunch of issues.

A great quote comes to mind (falsely attributed to Ben Franklin);

"Democracy is when two wolves and one lamb vote on whats for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the election."

How can you think the plan is not harmful when the cost will bankrupt our country..especially when we are already going under in a few years from ssi and medicare anyways? Dont you guys get it, theres not a magical money tree out there and unless you intend them to live under an overpass your providors need to get paid.

When "letting someone have time to try his agenda" involves abolishing whats left of the bill of rights and creating a debt that will crush this country in my lifetime I am supposed to just be cool with that?

And what do the republicans have to do with it? Bush did the first bail out. Bush added the drug plan to medicare, hell he tripled the size of the government. Obama is continuing the same agenda. If we could have stopped it under bush, clinton, bush, reagan, carter, we would have (I wasnt alive for the other jokers). Obama retained some of the same people and is advancing the same policy goals, hes just adding more that piss off even more people.

I pray every day you are right about the atmosphere being inflamed enough they cant get anything done. I wish they were more like jesse ventura, he said once his goal for his term in government was the people not realizing the government was around.

You would have a point if blacks did not victimize whites at staggering rates. In Fl one in 3 black men is a convicted felon, so I am as understanding if people take extra precautions around them as I am about the black person who may have lived under jim crow.

Furthermore many blacks perpetuate the problem by glorifying violence, sex, misogyny, in their music, art, and dress. Regardless of race people judge you by your appearance, especially in respect to determining whether or not you are intimidating. A well dressed articulate black guy does not get that sort of treatment. I get the same thing when I am riding, big tattooed guy on a harley, but not when I have jeans and sneakers on. It certainly doesnt pain me, I tend to be extra polite actually, maybe if guys with dreadlocks and gold teeth with guns on them held open more doors we could squash the racial deal...lol...

As far as your anecdote about the kids, kids can be very cruel and impulsive. I was a white kid in an inner city school most of my life. I got cut, beat numerous times, got a nice orbital blowout and 3 skull fractures, and called every racial slur in ebonics, spanish, and asian you could possibly invent the whole time and for no reason other than my race. It would have been a wet dream for someone to drive by and yell something....well that happened but they usually threw something or popped off a couple rounds....

My point is that those people clutching purses and locking doors arent doing it because they have a certain amount of melanin in their skin. If there was a certain part of town where everyone was green where most of the rape, murder, and robberry happened and was inhabited almost exclusively by these green people, then people would fear green people. Why is it that all those little old purse clutchers are the evil racist? Why is the real problem not a group that abandons 70% of their kids and commits most of the crime.

Read this great speech by Bill Cosby, he articulates it much better and you cant call him a racist.

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/227814

I think you are ready for the truth behind the Barack Hussein Obama Agenda

Apparently the truth that I believe is different than the so called truth that others believe. Thank goodness for freedom of speech, right?

The republicans are just mad because they are not in power right now and whining and complaining like no tommorow. They better get used to it.

Haha that's a good one. I guess thanks for clarifying that one. Haha.

I am worried at the direction our Country is going, and I have been mad for a long time.


Ummmm let's see, for 8 yrs who did all the whining, complaining and foaming at the mouths like rabid dogs?


I find it actually comical that because we don't like someone's policies or beliefs, we are labeled racists, angry or whatever else some like to throw out there.

I'm proud not to be a progressive democrat and that America (so far) gives us the freedom of speech and the freedom to believe in what we want.

It's nice to see that people still can evolve..