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Sad for the victims and families.
But, to the orchestrators, it has been a success. It accomplished it's intended purpouse. It made people rally around the Gov. The people got angry enough to look for someone to blame and want revenge, someone to kill. The Gov. was able to come up with an enemy quick enough to keep the focus off of who could really been responsable. Bin Laden, if he accepted the assignment to be the patsy, under protection, will die a natural death and live a life fit for a king. JMO. |
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so what do you think was behind 9-11 ?
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so what do you think was behind 9-11 ? Don't know. Some have said Bush Jr and Cheney aren't smart enough to have come up with the plan. I would look at who or what small group, has studied war, human nature and human reaction to subversive crisis. If we were to rally all suspects, the most suspect would be the ones who's job is manipulating peoples and events, think tanks. |
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Read all the post on the conspiracy theories and I don't buy into them.
Plain and simple - a bunch of arab guys took advantage of America's laxed security and flew some airplanes into some tall buildings. The funding came from people that hated the US. Not difficult at all. Look at our border with Mexico and it stands to reason that something of the same magnitude could easily be perpetrated on the US again. Maybe not now with planes but with something else. Why no more attacks -the secret to that is how the US reacted militarily in that region. Too heavy a price has been paid by the arab world. Call me nuts if you want. I extend my sympathies to the families of those who were killed on that day. |
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every conspiracy put out there has been addressed and debunked a million times
but everybody just ignores that and keeps on with it even by (of all people) Popular Mechanics magazine http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html |
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Sorry, but I must vehemently state that today is September 11, and the tragedy that unfolded on this day happened on September 11, 2001. I refuse to allow a day of such importance that it changed history be reduced to a catchphrase or buzzword.
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As a matter of principle, I will stay out of the 9/11 arguement for now and will simply say that my thoughts go out to all those people who have lost their lives. Not just the 3,000, but the hundreds of people who have or will lose their lives due to the enviromental hazards that they are not being protected over, the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi, Afghani and Pakistani's that have died as a result of the military intervention.
As for popular mechanics debunking anything, I don't trust the CIA's word on much these days. |
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Fri 09/11/09 09:10 AM
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Sad for the victims and families. But, to the orchestrators, it has been a success. It accomplished it's intended purpouse. It made people rally around the Gov. The people got angry enough to look for someone to blame and want revenge, someone to kill. The Gov. was able to come up with an enemy quick enough to keep the focus off of who could really been responsable. Bin Laden, if he accepted the assignment to be the patsy, under protection, will die a natural death and live a life fit for a king. JMO. Bin Laden is not claimed by the CIA nor the FBI as the man behind the attack. He is a 'suspect' of the bombing of a US Navy boat and "possible" other terrorist acts, but there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that Bin Laden was the man behind 911. Look if you don't believe me: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm his charges are MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH |
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When I was on the highway this morning, I drove under a bridge. Two men were on the bridge. They were holding a huge sign. The sign said, "9-11. An inside job".
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Read all the post on the conspiracy theories and I don't buy into them. Plain and simple - a bunch of arab guys took advantage of America's laxed security and flew some airplanes into some tall buildings. The funding came from people that hated the US. Not difficult at all. Look at our border with Mexico and it stands to reason that something of the same magnitude could easily be perpetrated on the US again. Maybe not now with planes but with something else. Why no more attacks -the secret to that is how the US reacted militarily in that region. Too heavy a price has been paid by the arab world. Call me nuts if you want. I extend my sympathies to the families of those who were killed on that day. I wonder if we haven't had any attacks because it takes time and money to plan for these attacks. |
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When I was on the highway this morning, I drove under a bridge. Two men were on the bridge. They were holding a huge sign. The sign said, "9-11. An inside job". I think it's not appropriate to do this today. Not to mention they sort of defeat themselves by claiming one conspiracy theory over another. They won't believe the official version, so they believe something else and nothing can change their minds. |
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When is it appropriate? No one and I mean no one has used their platform to deliever more funds for health care to the sick and dying first responders.
if the war on terror was serious, then our borders wouldn't be wide open and if those "terrorists" were so serious about hitting us, then they would have. If there was a real threat, we'd be having nonstop problems, but the threat is "reichstagg" in it's scope. |
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Read all the post on the conspiracy theories and I don't buy into them. Plain and simple - a bunch of arab guys took advantage of America's laxed security and flew some airplanes into some tall buildings. The funding came from people that hated the US. Not difficult at all. Look at our border with Mexico and it stands to reason that something of the same magnitude could easily be perpetrated on the US again. Maybe not now with planes but with something else. Why no more attacks -the secret to that is how the US reacted militarily in that region. Too heavy a price has been paid by the arab world. Call me nuts if you want. I extend my sympathies to the families of those who were killed on that day. Similar things were thought about Pearl Harbor for years. Eventually, historians discovered that, in fact, Japan sued for Peace in US Courts. The U.S. wanted to continue the game though, because they made money with the war machine, so they kept it up. (See "Hitler, Churchill, and the Unnecessary War" by Buchannan) I expect similar revelations will come from the phony "War On Terror". |
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Fri 09/11/09 09:38 AM
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Read all the post on the conspiracy theories and I don't buy into them. Plain and simple - a bunch of arab guys took advantage of America's laxed security and flew some airplanes into some tall buildings. The funding came from people that hated the US. Not difficult at all. Look at our border with Mexico and it stands to reason that something of the same magnitude could easily be perpetrated on the US again. Maybe not now with planes but with something else. Why no more attacks -the secret to that is how the US reacted militarily in that region. Too heavy a price has been paid by the arab world. Call me nuts if you want. I extend my sympathies to the families of those who were killed on that day. You know I won't say anything but "bunch of Arabs" is quite a vague expression. You do know that they weren't even all Arabs. Most of them were Africans (Egyptians), unless of course you refer to their race, which again, is stereotyping. |
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Read all the post on the conspiracy theories and I don't buy into them. Plain and simple - a bunch of arab guys took advantage of America's laxed security and flew some airplanes into some tall buildings. The funding came from people that hated the US. Not difficult at all. Look at our border with Mexico and it stands to reason that something of the same magnitude could easily be perpetrated on the US again. Maybe not now with planes but with something else. Why no more attacks -the secret to that is how the US reacted militarily in that region. Too heavy a price has been paid by the arab world. Call me nuts if you want. I extend my sympathies to the families of those who were killed on that day. You know I won't say anything but "bunch of Arabs" is quite a vague expression. You do know that they weren't even all Arabs. Most of them were Africans (Egyptians), unless of course you refer to their race, which again, is stereotyping. Yep, Sudanese. Also, more than just a few of those blamed for the suicide attacks of that fateful day have shown up alive... one of them even works or worked as a baggage handler when he was found. |
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When I was on the highway this morning, I drove under a bridge. Two men were on the bridge. They were holding a huge sign. The sign said, "9-11. An inside job". I think it's not appropriate to do this today. Not to mention they sort of defeat themselves by claiming one conspiracy theory over another. They won't believe the official version, so they believe something else and nothing can change their minds. My child was in the car with me and I had to explain what it meant. I would have liked my child to have seen a remembrance sign instead. |
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When is it appropriate? If you ask me, then 364 days a year, with the exception of this one. That might be only my opinion though. |
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9/11 Hijackers Still Alive
Times Of London Edition 5LTHU 20 SEP 2001, Page 3 Suicide hijackers hid behind stolen Arab identities; America at war: New York agony; Terror in new York DOMINIC KENNEDY; OVERSEAS NEWS Five of the hijackers were using stolen identities, and investigators are studying the possibility that the entire suicide squad consisted of impostors. Details are emerging of the killers' humdrum final weeks in the US suburbs - joining gyms, eating pizzas and visiting an "adult video" store. But the more the FBI learns about the dead men, the less likely it seems that the list of suspects derived from the passenger manifests of the aircraft can be accurate. Many of them seem to have adopted the personas of real-life commercial and military pilots. In Saudi Arabia, five of the alleged hijackers have emerged, alive, innocent and astonished to see their names and photographs appearing on satellite television. "The name is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Centre in New York," Abdulaziz Alomari told the London-based Asharq al-Awsat newspaper. Mr Alomari, 28, interviewed in Riyadh, said that he had left the United States in April 2000 and was in the Saudi capital during the suicide attacks in New York and Washington. The US-educated engineer had reported to police that his passport was stolen when his flat in Denver, Colorado, was burgled in 1995. A Saudi diplomat formerly based in Washington, Ahmed al-Shehri, told al-Eqtisadiah newspaper that details of one of the hijackers matched his son, Waleed. The young man, a pilot with Saudi Arabian Airlines who graduated four years ago from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Florida, is living in Morocco. Another Saudi pilot, Said Hussein al-Ghamdi, whose photograph was broadcast on CNN when it portrayed him as a hijacker, is living in Tunis. Bogus identities have long formed part of Osama bin Laden's armoury. A man given a jail sentence of 240 years for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre is known to the American authorities as Ramzi Yousef, a Kuwaiti who studied at Swansea Institute of Higher Education. His lecturers insist, after seeing photographs of the man in a top-security jail, that he is not their former student. The real Mr Yousef was killed at the end of the Gulf War. One suspected associate of the hijackers questioned by police in America uses the name Nikos Makrakis, but the real Mr Makrakis is a Greek nightclub singer whose passport was stolen from his car when he went for a swim in Loutsa this July. Doubts are emerging about the identities of other named hijackers. In the United Arab Emirates, relatives and neighbours of Marwan al-Shehhi, suspected of flying the second aircraft into the towers, said the man they knew could not have carried out such a devastating act. Mr al-Shehhi, who last spoke to his family two months ago, lost his passport and a replacement was issued on December 26, 1999. The family of Ziad al-Jarrah, an alcohol-drinking Lebanese partygoer, deny he could have been the fanatical Muslim hijacker whose aircraft crashed in Pennsylvania. Mohammed Atta's father, a Cairo lawyer, was certain his son, who feared flying, was not the pilot of the first aircraft to crash into the World Trade Centre, as news organisations have suggested. Alarming reports claimed that three of the hijackers -Saeed al-Ghamdi, Ahmed al-Mani and Ahmed al-Ghamdi -had learned to fly at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida, known as the "Cradle of US Naval Aviation". But it has emerged that none of these were among the hijackers. Investigators are checking whether they were just men with similar names, or if the hijackers deliberately posed as the military pilots. The theft of identities from international commercial pilots may explain why some countries are discovering records showing that people with these names frequently entered their countries. The Philippines Government was astonished to learn that a Saeed al-Ghamdi had visited Manila 15 times. An Ahmed al Ghamdi came to the capital 13 times and left on September 10, a day before a man with the same name crashed into the World Trade Centre. The lives of the hijackers are being pieced together by FBI agents. Two of the gang, including the impostor Saeed al-Ghamdi, spent their final weeks in a flat in Delray Racquet Club, Delray Beach, Florida, where neighbours said it sounded like they were playing marbles late at night. Five of the men lived in suburban Maryland, where Hani Hanjour and Majed Moqed were pictured by a surveillance camera, in casual clothes. Moqed visited an adult video shop a few times, buying nothing. "He was acting strangely. He looked nervous," the manager said. Two of the hijackers lived in the Valencia Motel in Laurel, refusing to let the housekeeper enter their room to change the linen. They opened the door slightly to swap dirty towels for clean ones. The men ate at a pizza restauarant, but were described as "stand-offish". They went to Gold's Gym, paying with cash. They exercised quietly, using weight-training and resis-tance machines. When they enrolled, the receptionist asked if their Arabic names had English translations. Hanjour said: "My name means warrior." Actually, it means "content". --------------------------------------------------------------------- The individuals mentioned above were later officially established in the 9/11 Commission Report as the 9/11 hijackers, even though they had confirmed their photographs and that they are still alive. To verify this startling information, see the 9/11 Commission Report webpage at http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch7.htm. Go to the graphic slightly over half way down the page. |
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