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Topic: What do you all think?
biglife Joined Sat 08/29/09 Posts: 837	Fri 09/04/09 12:03 PM
She should hand that baby over to someone who would be a responsible adult. ASAP!!!! What the hll is she thinking? Who gave her the right to damage that poor baby because of her own selfish need to self-destuct? Is this love? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! holy cow You don't know all the details. You don't know if the baby was even there. It not like she shoved crack in the baby's bottle. I don't quite think this warrants a "you need to hand over your baby to another person because you're a terrible person" You provided enough details for me to make my mind up about what's right or what's wrong. This is definitely wrong. What the hlls the difference -- pot, crack, heroine, rat poison, alcohol? Wrong, wrong, wrong. No-one will ever change my mind. I'm not going to get pulled into a debate about something that's so blatently obvioous. Why do you have to be so judgemental? You don't know her situation. Obviously she made a mistake and felt guilty enough to call her friend and confide in her and ask for help. You don't know what she's going thru. So she has a baby and say her baby is being well taken cared for, spending the night with the grandparents or other parent for that matter. She goes out with friends for a night and smokes a lil weed. Did she make a mistake? Yep. Is she still human? Yep. Does that warrant her losing her child and calling her a terrible person. Absolutly not. Like I said, you don't know the whole story. Everyone is just so quick to judge and just hang um without finding out details. I'm basing my thoughts and opinions on the information that was given. Where do you draw the line as to how much, how little, when or where?

scorpio90 Joined Sun 12/21/08 Posts: 8481	Fri 09/04/09 12:05 PM
... PLEASE! ... Encourage her to study 5~HTP ... The brain chemistry that she's seeking to balance, will be in INSTANTLY w/in her reach, w/out ill~effects upon the child. There are MANY books and online sources, as regards 5~HTP ... If she wants to smoke pot the world will still go on. Give some people a break. It's not like she's been up for 12 days on meth or noddin' off at the wheel from doin' heroin...... Being a breast feeding mother and doing illegal drugs is not only criminal, it is also incredibly stupid and detrimental to the baby. NO BREAKS should be given. She needs to seek help for her stress not self-medicate. It's just POT! It's a plant. It's basically harmless outside of the damage to the lungs that occurs with smoking anything. It's only POT. It should be it's own food group like vegetables. Even if that is true which is HIGHLY debatable, it is still illegal and reckless. Being illegal doesn't mean anything really. Everybody breaks the law on pretty much a daily basis in one way or another...

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Fri 09/04/09 12:07 PM Edited by Jill298 on Fri 09/04/09 12:08 PM
I'm basing my thoughts and opinions on the information that was given. Where do you draw the line as to how much, how little, when or where? Where do I draw the line? Was she smoking it with the baby in her arms? Was she blowing it in his / her face? Was she intoxicated what so ever while she was caring for this child? Did she endanger the child? None of these were mentioned. Is it wrong for her to smoke weed? Yep. It's illegal. Is it wrong for her to breastfeed afterwards? Yep. Maybe she didn't know. Maybe she doesn't have very good skills. Maybe she needs help. And just maybe, she's still a good mom that loves her child. And maybe her child is far better off with her than he / she is in a foster home. Was it any worse than taking a prescription drug? Or drinking?

Dancere Joined Sun 04/06/08 Posts: 14561	Fri 09/04/09 12:09 PM Edited by Dancere on Fri 09/04/09 12:09 PM
Why do you have to be so judgemental? You don't know her situation. Obviously she made a mistake and felt guilty enough to call her friend and confide in her and ask for help. You don't know what she's going thru. So she has a baby and say her baby is being well taken cared for, spending the night with the grandparents or other parent for that matter. She goes out with friends for a night and smokes a lil weed. Did she make a mistake? Yep. Is she still human? Yep. Does that warrant her losing her child and calling her a terrible person. Absolutly not. Like I said, you don't know the whole story. Everyone is just so quick to judge and just hang um without finding out details. Oh, oh ... I pick Jill for my team!!! ... I repeat: Solutions!!! ... : ... PLEASE! ... Encourage her to study 5~HTP ... The brain chemistry that she's seeking to balance, will be in INSTANTLY w/in her reach, w/out ill~effects upon the child. There are MANY books and online sources, as regards 5~HTP ... We begin in the now, not w/ anger that accomplishes ZERO, but w/ solution and love ... We set sail at sunset ... * appalauds * Good team! Play ball ... ... ...

Unknow Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 41170	Fri 09/04/09 12:10 PM
... PLEASE! ... Encourage her to study 5~HTP ... The brain chemistry that she's seeking to balance, will be in INSTANTLY w/in her reach, w/out ill~effects upon the child. There are MANY books and online sources, as regards 5~HTP ... If she wants to smoke pot the world will still go on. Give some people a break. It's not like she's been up for 12 days on meth or noddin' off at the wheel from doin' heroin...... Being a breast feeding mother and doing illegal drugs is not only criminal, it is also incredibly stupid and detrimental to the baby. NO BREAKS should be given. She needs to seek help for her stress not self-medicate. It's just POT! It's a plant. It's basically harmless outside of the damage to the lungs that occurs with smoking anything. It's only POT. It should be it's own food group like vegetables. Even if that is true which is HIGHLY debatable, it is still illegal and reckless. Being illegal doesn't mean anything really. Everybody breaks the law on pretty much a daily basis in one way or another... Everybody is a strong word, don't you think? I've always tried to avoid absolutes whenever possible. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion. I do disagree about being illegal not meaning anything. Most people, myself included, would rather avoid arrest and legal issues if possible.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Fri 09/04/09 12:12 PM Edited by Jill298 on Fri 09/04/09 12:12 PM
What I'm saying is we have part of the story from a 2nd hand source. It's ridiculous how people just jump on the bandwagon and decide that she's a horrible mother and should lose her child based off of the information given.

scorpio90 Joined Sun 12/21/08 Posts: 8481	Fri 09/04/09 12:14 PM
... PLEASE! ... Encourage her to study 5~HTP ... The brain chemistry that she's seeking to balance, will be in INSTANTLY w/in her reach, w/out ill~effects upon the child. There are MANY books and online sources, as regards 5~HTP ... If she wants to smoke pot the world will still go on. Give some people a break. It's not like she's been up for 12 days on meth or noddin' off at the wheel from doin' heroin...... Being a breast feeding mother and doing illegal drugs is not only criminal, it is also incredibly stupid and detrimental to the baby. NO BREAKS should be given. She needs to seek help for her stress not self-medicate. It's just POT! It's a plant. It's basically harmless outside of the damage to the lungs that occurs with smoking anything. It's only POT. It should be it's own food group like vegetables. Even if that is true which is HIGHLY debatable, it is still illegal and reckless. Being illegal doesn't mean anything really. Everybody breaks the law on pretty much a daily basis in one way or another... Everybody is a strong word, don't you think? I've always tried to avoid absolutes whenever possible. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion. I do disagree about being illegal not meaning anything. Most people, myself included, would rather avoid arrest and legal issues if possible. I just feel that people instinctively know their boundaries. When they cross this the punishment comes out in the form of guilt. I don't really like people telling what I should or shouldn't be doing. We're smart. We can think for ourselves.

Dancere Joined Sun 04/06/08 Posts: 14561	Fri 09/04/09 12:14 PM
Everybody is a strong word, don't you think? I've always tried to avoid absolutes whenever possible. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion. I do disagree about being illegal not meaning anything. Most people, myself included, would rather avoid arrest and legal issues if possible. ... Genau~Exactly, quite!!! All the more when innocent children are involved!!! ...

Lfer Joined Wed 12/17/08 Posts: 467	Fri 09/04/09 12:14 PM
Its funny, the 60's and 70's, hell even the 80's. People didn't know jack back then. Mothers doped it up while pregnant, snorted cocaine while pregnant. etc. etc.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Fri 09/04/09 12:15 PM
Its funny, the 60's and 70's, hell even the 80's. People didn't know jack back then. Mothers doped it up while pregnant, snorted cocaine while pregnant. etc. etc. that was long before bottled water and hand sanitzer and the mini van with 3rd row seats with 16 different sealt belts.

Unknow Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 41170	Fri 09/04/09 12:15 PM Edited by Unknow on Fri 09/04/09 12:16 PM
What I'm saying is we have part of the story from a 2nd hand source. It's digusting how people just jump on the bandwagon and decide that she's a horrible mother and should lose her child based off of the information given. I never said she was a horrible mother. Her actions were wrong and she needs help rather than self-medication. This was my entire point. There is much more to the of smoking a bowl of marijuana than the act itself. Where was the baby when she was buying it? Where did she have to go to do so? Etcetera etcetera. Now that she is sober, what is she doing to maintain sobriety and keep her stress level down? These are all questions which need to be addressed not debated.

Gypsy41 Joined Tue 05/15/07 Posts: 123359	Fri 09/04/09 12:16 PM
Obviously this girl needs to guidance and some parenting books. I think there was one I used called The first 2 years.....

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Fri 09/04/09 12:17 PM
What I'm saying is we have part of the story from a 2nd hand source. It's digusting how people just jump on the bandwagon and decide that she's a horrible mother and should lose her child based off of the information given. I never said she was a horrible mother. Her actions were wrong and she needs help rather than self-medication. This was my entire point. There is much more to the of smoking a bowl of marijuana than the act itself. Where was the baby when she was buying it? Where did she have to go to do so? Etcetera etcetera. Now that she is sober, what is she doing to maintain sobriety and keep her stress level down? These are all questions which need to be addressed not debated. I brought all of those questions up you know I you waterloo

Lfer Joined Wed 12/17/08 Posts: 467	Fri 09/04/09 12:17 PM
The baby was with her mother, "grandma". It was just her and two of her girlfriends. She was only out for 40 mins. Yes, it was wrong. But, who are all of you even myself to judge. We have all made stupid choices, some more stupid then others.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Fri 09/04/09 12:19 PM
The baby was with her mother, "grandma". It was just her and two of her girlfriends. She was only out for 40 mins. Yes, it was wrong. But, who are all of you even myself to judge. We have all made stupid choices, some more stupid then others. I couldn't agree with you more

Unknow Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 41170	Fri 09/04/09 12:20 PM
What I'm saying is we have part of the story from a 2nd hand source. It's digusting how people just jump on the bandwagon and decide that she's a horrible mother and should lose her child based off of the information given. I never said she was a horrible mother. Her actions were wrong and she needs help rather than self-medication. This was my entire point. There is much more to the of smoking a bowl of marijuana than the act itself. Where was the baby when she was buying it? Where did she have to go to do so? Etcetera etcetera. Now that she is sober, what is she doing to maintain sobriety and keep her stress level down? These are all questions which need to be addressed not debated. I brought all of those questions up you know I you waterloo And I've always you too. You're a voice of reason. Sometimes we all get too caught up in the debate to realize what is truly important.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Fri 09/04/09 12:21 PM
What I'm saying is we have part of the story from a 2nd hand source. It's digusting how people just jump on the bandwagon and decide that she's a horrible mother and should lose her child based off of the information given. I never said she was a horrible mother. Her actions were wrong and she needs help rather than self-medication. This was my entire point. There is much more to the of smoking a bowl of marijuana than the act itself. Where was the baby when she was buying it? Where did she have to go to do so? Etcetera etcetera. Now that she is sober, what is she doing to maintain sobriety and keep her stress level down? These are all questions which need to be addressed not debated. I brought all of those questions up you know I you waterloo And I've always you too. You're a voice of reason. Sometimes we all get too caught up in the debate to realize what is truly important.

ReddBeans Joined Sat 10/27/07 Posts: 6930	Fri 09/04/09 12:22 PM
Speakin as a Mom who breastfed 4 an also worked as a Breastfeedin Peer Counselor with WIC, she needs to pump an dump for at least 24 hrs. Anything a breastfeedin mother ingests, inhales or otherwise takes into her body will go to the baby by way of breastmilk. Drugs, alcohol, medications, etc. I even noticed when I ate gassy foods an then breastfed, the baby got gas.

Lfer Joined Wed 12/17/08 Posts: 467	Fri 09/04/09 12:22 PM
She called me again, just five minutes ago. She did breastfeed early this morning, her baby Brooke is just as bouncy and happy as ever. But, she is going to buy formula just for right now.

Unknow Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 41170	Fri 09/04/09 12:22 PM
The baby was with her mother, "grandma". It was just her and two of her girlfriends. She was only out for 40 mins. Yes, it was wrong. But, who are all of you even myself to judge. We have all made stupid choices, some more stupid then others. I also agree, but lest you forget, you made the post and asked the question. I hate to state the obvious, but don't ask the question unless you are prepared for answers you will not like.