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Edited by
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!  That's exactly why we need Reform NOW.  BHO reform won't make proving citizenship mandatory. Needs to be. The safeguards to the citizen or non citizen are already in place in the government, they do not need to be redundant. Like I said more garbage as usual. STOP BELIEVING THE RIGHTWING HATEMONGERING AND FEARMONGERING MACHINE, IT HAS NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH YET. |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care! That's exactly why we need Reform NOW. What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? nahhhh my dialysis costs about $80,000 a year and my specialists: urologists, nephrologists, GI doctor, immunologists, transplant doctors and they are all getting paid right on time That's what I was thinking - they were getting paid in a somewhat reasonable amount of time. I've seen what they get paid though. Sometimes the small amounts are shocking. wait... so which is it? are they getting paid shockingly little? or are they getting paid absorbantly to much?? Il Presidente says doctors "reimbursement" is where much of the cost cutting is going to originate.. so are we going to cut their pay even more? or Are we going to regulate how much someone that's spent a dozen years in school and gone typically hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to provide a service that'll kee your happy azz alive when you show up on his doorstep?? |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care! That's exactly why we need Reform NOW. What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? According to the administrative staff at my hospital. Medicare, medicade, and mainecare, are all tens of millions of dollars behind at the hospital i work at. This is part of our problem. There are, of course, many other contributing factors. But, nevertheless, the hospitals themselves are recieving the brunt of this healthcare crisis. |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care! That's exactly why we need Reform NOW. What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? nahhhh my dialysis costs about $80,000 a year and my specialists: urologists, nephrologists, GI doctor, immunologists, transplant doctors and they are all getting paid right on time Not necessarily by your insurance. In fact, some of this "stimulus" money went to help make up for the lack of bills. There was about 50 mil in late payments that were being given to our state hospitals. Whats sad, is the fact that the state was going to use this money elsewhere, my father almost got laid off because of this. Luckily (for him) there was a change of heart from our local government. Medicare, to help catch up on their payments, also short change the hospitals. Lets say a procedure costs $8,000. Medicare would pay $3,000 or $4,000. |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care! That's exactly why we need Reform NOW. What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? nahhhh my dialysis costs about $80,000 a year and my specialists: urologists, nephrologists, GI doctor, immunologists, transplant doctors and they are all getting paid right on time Not necessarily by your insurance. In fact, some of this "stimulus" money went to help make up for the lack of bills. There was about 50 mil in late payments that were being given to our state hospitals. Whats sad, is the fact that the state was going to use this money elsewhere, my father almost got laid off because of this. Luckily (for him) there was a change of heart from our local government. Medicare, to help catch up on their payments, also short change the hospitals. Lets say a procedure costs $8,000. Medicare would pay $3,000 or $4,000. so what you're saying is that the federal government's medicaid and medicare programs lack of payment or delinquency thereof to the hospitals is resulting in people experiencing reduced quality of care or expediency of care? you don't mean to suggest that there are unintended consquences to government intervention, do you? That simply can't be. Everything our federal govt takes on goes smoothly, exactly as planned and on budget.. [/sarcasm] |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care! That's exactly why we need Reform NOW. What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? nahhhh my dialysis costs about $80,000 a year and my specialists: urologists, nephrologists, GI doctor, immunologists, transplant doctors and they are all getting paid right on time Not necessarily by your insurance. In fact, some of this "stimulus" money went to help make up for the lack of bills. There was about 50 mil in late payments that were being given to our state hospitals. Whats sad, is the fact that the state was going to use this money elsewhere, my father almost got laid off because of this. Luckily (for him) there was a change of heart from our local government. Medicare, to help catch up on their payments, also short change the hospitals. Lets say a procedure costs $8,000. Medicare would pay $3,000 or $4,000. so what you're saying is that the federal government's medicaid and medicare programs lack of payment or delinquency thereof to the hospitals is resulting in people experiencing reduced quality of care or expediency of care? you don't mean to suggest that there are unintended consquences to government intervention, do you? That simply can't be. Everything our federal govt takes on goes smoothly, exactly as planned and on budget.. [/sarcasm]
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Edited by
cashu
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Thu 09/10/09 07:33 PM
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What a bunch of HOGWASH! Illegals will NOT be covered. i'LL BET ITS TRUE . tHATS BECAUSE THEY PLAN TO MAKE ALL THE ILLEGALS LEGAL .They leraned to do that from the republicians . ronnie regan was the first that did that He was a real empty bag of morals .. AND WE ALL READY PAY FOR MEDICAL TREATMENTS .... THEY GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM get treated and leave you the bill . did you realy think they could pay these rediculously high doctor bills on the cheap wages they get . they could afford it if they were in mexico with lower wages . I'd explain this to you but I'm tired of talking to walls |
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in my house the walls talk back
they say "GET OUT" but then I live in Amityville |
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in my house the walls talk back they say "GET OUT" but then I live in Amityville -------------------------------------------------------------------- it good that they yalk back that means there at least thinging |
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Illegals will soon be legal..jmo
So President Obama is right. Amnesty is next. If Health care passes.jmo |
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