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Edited by
willing2
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Mon 09/07/09 03:18 PM
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Voted down were amendments that would require proof of citizenship or legal status to sign up for the government plan, that would bar government funding abortion as a plan “benefit,” and an amendment that would bar rationing of health care based on comparative effectiveness data.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32751 |
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and that surprises ya??? really??
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and that surprises ya??? really?? No maam. Just shinin' mo light. Light makes it tough fo' da' Devil ta' hide. |
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Edited by
Jon85213
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Mon 09/07/09 03:44 PM
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here is the bill if you would like to read it.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200IH/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200IH.pdf |
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you can also goto this site and find updates to the bill. what is actually votes on. what they are striking down.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/home.action |
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Voted down were amendments that would require proof of citizenship or legal status to sign up for the government plan, that would bar government funding abortion as a plan “benefit,” and an amendment that would bar rationing of health care based on comparative effectiveness data. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32751 More garbage that isn't true as usual. 
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What a bunch of HOGWASH!
 Illegals will NOT be covered.
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Mon 09/07/09 04:56 PM
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they are already covered
all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!
That's exactly why we need Reform NOW. 
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!
That's exactly why we need Reform NOW.
What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. |
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I agree with dragoness and 1956deluxe.
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!
That's exactly why we need Reform NOW.
What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? |
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Illegals WON'T be covered by the plan. Everyone will still get free emergency room care though(This is the same in MOST industrialized countries). I think if they are illegal and go to the ER they should be deported after it though, instead they just walk out.
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Wed 09/09/09 07:05 AM
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!
That's exactly why we need Reform NOW.
What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? nahhhh my dialysis costs about $80,000 a year and my specialists: urologists, nephrologists, GI doctor, immunologists, transplant doctors and they are all getting paid right on time |
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Edited by
raiderfan_32
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Wed 09/09/09 07:18 AM
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Illegals WON'T be covered by the plan. Everyone will still get free emergency room care though(This is the same in MOST industrialized countries). I think if they are illegal and go to the ER they should be deported after it though, instead they just walk out. "free emergency room"??? Those bills get paid by someone.. in most cases, I think its county tax payers that foot the bill and it's not free in "most industrialized countries".. When will people learn that there's no such thing as "free"??? |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!
That's exactly why we need Reform NOW.
What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? nahhhh my dialysis costs about $80,000 a year and my specialists: urologists, nephrologists, GI doctor, immunologists, transplant doctors and they are all getting paid right on time quiet, I'm sure that's true. $80K per year seems like a lot of money and I'm sure they earn it.. but from what I'm reading and hearing from lots of different sources is that those that are able to pay are being charged way more than they should be to take up for the deadbeats that are flooding the system. If you and I both go in and I can't/won't/have no way to pay my bill, guess what? you're going to get charged double so that we both get treatment.. so untill there is solvency for freeloading deadbeats, prices and costs will continue to rise.. and I suspect any "government plan" will only exaccerbate that issue rather than solve for it.. |
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? \ none--the clinic here in Royal city wa takes all the locals in and they don't pay. The state runs it and the fed(us) pays. This is farming country and they head to places like this for work--The high school kids used to pic in the sunmmer--but the state made that e-legal years ago.---so yes whats the diff. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Wed 09/09/09 08:40 AM
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!
That's exactly why we need Reform NOW.
BHO reform won't make proving citizenship mandatory. Needs to be. |
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Illegals WON'T be covered by the plan. Everyone will still get free emergency room care though(This is the same in MOST industrialized countries). I think if they are illegal and go to the ER they should be deported after it though, instead they just walk out. "free emergency room"??? Those bills get paid by someone.. in most cases, I think its county tax payers that foot the bill and it's not free in "most industrialized countries".. When will people learn that there's no such thing as "free"??? Yes it comes out of my taxes unfortunately. I've been to 21 of the 30 something industrialized countries and they have the same ER practice as us. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 09/09/09 01:32 PM
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they are already covered all they have to do is pop in to the emergency room where they can not be turned away by law and by law they can't be questioned as to their immigration status so whats the difference? Same thing that everyone else does that doesn't have insurance. They just pop in the emergency room for free health care!
That's exactly why we need Reform NOW.
What's the difference if people pop into the ER, where they neglect to pay the bill, and a government program that covers them, where the government neglects to pay the bill? This is my major concern. The bills are not getting paid. Medicare is about 5 years behind on their payments, and as a result the hospitals are picking up the brunt of the financial burden. This leads to staff cuts, overcharging people that have insurance, etc. just to survive. Can't help but wonder, if we would withdraw our troops from the 130 different countries they are in, would maybe help pay the bill. But, since the American making 60,000 a year pays about 40,000 in taxes of one form or another, i don't think it would be wise to raise taxes any more. First, we need to find the money. Medicare's 5 years behind on their payments? nahhhh my dialysis costs about $80,000 a year and my specialists: urologists, nephrologists, GI doctor, immunologists, transplant doctors and they are all getting paid right on time That's what I was thinking - they were getting paid in a somewhat reasonable amount of time. I've seen what they get paid though. Sometimes the small amounts are shocking. |
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