If god is fully in control than how is it that we have freewill in the that way we think we do? Im not sure i like the idea that God is in control by allowing us to do as we will. Heres an example: If i let my son outside to play and he gets hit by a car in front of the house whos fault is it? who wasnt watching there son? whos responsible? yet i allowed him to play near the street(sin).You see if we say god allowed us to choose sin or play near the street than you blame God for sin because he allowed it,thats why i dont like the idea that he fully is in control.As weird as it is, i believe he is and we do have freewill.Maybe the only freewill we truly have is to reject Him/the Word because He warns us us and instructs us just like we would tell the young man not to play near the street!I think i might have answered my own question but have a poke at it anyway.

true....you answered your own question.....but I understand .... I also find it very dificult to accept a situation that I could have done something to make it better but didn´t.... and understand at the same time that God knows and He is in control of everything in our lives.....

Look at this way. God is not a spiritual rapist. He wants us come to Him on our on accord. He does not want robots worshiping Him. Can you imagine being God at the point of creating man & He fully understands that giving us freewill is a risk? But it was a risk He was will to take. I know it's difficult to grasp the concept that He also knew that 1st Eve & then Adam would both choose to disobey. But the beauty of it all is that He already had a plan "B" in place. Sending Jesus, the Creator God, in human form to die for us. As was mentioned in the book of Genesis 3:15 -
And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring [a] and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel."

All of the events in the OT serve to teach us about God's unending love & devotion to His creation & that it all points to the arrival of His only begotten Son. Don't think for a moment that He isn't troubled when we chose poorly or that He has hands-off approach. He truly is in control & He will accomplish His purposes in this world either with or without us. He would prefer that we make ourselves available to Him to accomplish those goals, so that we be blessed & grow closer to Him & become even spiritually minded like He is.

If we have no freewill then we're puppets on a string.
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alot of what you said i can agree with, but what do you do about this. We couldnt come to Christ if God didnt grant us the grace to come to him to start out with. Later when it comes to repentance we wouldnt even repent if God didnt grant us the ability to repent. So i "thank God" for that, but Freewill to chose God i dont really think so,so thats why i think the only freewill i might have is to reject God/Christ because if you think about that its the only thing thatmakes real sense especialy when the sins of the world were forgiven on the cross.

Your just afraid because you apparently either cant, or dont want to measure up. *yawn*


Whatever.

Blame God.

Im not sure if i understand you earthy "measure up" the bible says my righteousness is as filthy rags, so i no that in an of myself i could ever measure up. I have a feeling your catholic, because there security is based alot on works (measuring up!). Why the *yawn at the end, its insulting? By the i was catholic :)

I believe that man has essentially created his own gods to service his own needs, wants and desires. If you prefer, man has determined himself to be beyond the reach of the commonwealth of the spirit of man. If indeed a man were to earnestly seek after the heart of the creator of the universe and were to acknowledge his own lack of understanding of such then the creator of the universe would be found by that man/woman without all of the psychbabble, without the schisms and certainly without ridiculous notions of cultic superiority.
Catholic, charasmatic, pentecostal, all of the rest of the man made creations are primarily designed to glorify one group of folks above another, this is certainly not in keeping with any of the tenets of any world religion's holy book.
The Holy Bible, The Koran, The Book of Mormon, the Book of the Sublime, The righteous Book of the Selfish, are all full of the supremacy of a created god.
So sorry, but it is not for man to create God in his image. That is simply a waste of creative thought and energy. God must laugh at the foolish notions of mortal man that he has such an egoism that he could possibly create a creator God.

I to have have created my own god in the image that i thought God should be and rested heavy on those thoughts that have brought me nothing but grief, because god was never living up to my expectations. so ive been mad at God for all the wrong reasons. I didnt truly understand him/the Word or i would take what i read and some how mold it into something a little different than the truth creating my own god. Thats why knowing who wrote what and why and to who it was written to is so important, you get the real perspective. I think to some degree we all create or add to or take awAy from, the real GOD. It just happens to be that denominations can be created on this very statment, so thats why the schisms are real.