Topic: Another Baptist preacher prays for the death of Obama
AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 08/28/09 09:04 PM


wow all i know is that i am blacc and if he is touched i ride do or die


I have no idea what he just said

I have an idea.

I would hope that he would know first who actually did the touching.

But I agree and I ain't black...

I ride also...


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Fri 08/28/09 09:06 PM



wow all i know is that i am blacc and if he is touched i ride do or die


I have no idea what he just said

I have an idea.

I would hope that he would know first who actually did the touching.

But I agree and I ain't black...

I ride also...




I think millions of people of all colors and backgrounds will be angry if anything happens to this president. I don't exactly know what I ride means but I know I will be very upset.

wux's photo
Fri 08/28/09 09:07 PM
Baptist preachers should each be given a young, sweet puppy.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 08/28/09 09:07 PM
laugh I'm medicated so I have NO clue what that meant laugh

BUT....I don't like the president (I don't like most politicians) but I wouldn't wish something like that on someone.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Fri 08/28/09 09:09 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


Wow!shocked

He goes to bed at night and prays for Obama to die and go to hell? WT? That man needs to have his collar taken away!!

He is not a Pastor in my eyes. He's trying to start something. It is scary.





I don't know about that...but he shouldn't be preaching, as he doesn't demonstrate a solid understanding of the gospels. That opens a whole 'nother can of worms, tho...noway

Winx's photo
Fri 08/28/09 09:17 PM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


Wow!shocked

He goes to bed at night and prays for Obama to die and go to hell? WT? That man needs to have his collar taken away!!

He is not a Pastor in my eyes. He's trying to start something. It is scary.



I don't know about that...but he shouldn't be preaching, as he doesn't demonstrate a solid understanding of the gospels. That opens a whole 'nother can of worms, tho...noway


When he starts preaching like that to people, he's putting those awful thoughts into his parishioners' heads. That's scary to me and irresponsible of him.

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Fri 08/28/09 09:19 PM




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


Wow!shocked

He goes to bed at night and prays for Obama to die and go to hell? WT? That man needs to have his collar taken away!!

He is not a Pastor in my eyes. He's trying to start something. It is scary.



I don't know about that...but he shouldn't be preaching, as he doesn't demonstrate a solid understanding of the gospels. That opens a whole 'nother can of worms, tho...noway


When he starts preaching like that to people, he's putting those awful thoughts into his parishioners' heads. That's scary to me and irresponsible of him.


Someone asked if the secret service has visited him. I think it would be irresponsible if they haven't by now.

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Fri 08/28/09 09:21 PM





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


Wow!shocked

He goes to bed at night and prays for Obama to die and go to hell? WT? That man needs to have his collar taken away!!

He is not a Pastor in my eyes. He's trying to start something. It is scary.



I don't know about that...but he shouldn't be preaching, as he doesn't demonstrate a solid understanding of the gospels. That opens a whole 'nother can of worms, tho...noway


When he starts preaching like that to people, he's putting those awful thoughts into his parishioners' heads. That's scary to me and irresponsible of him.


Someone asked if the secret service has visited him. I think it would be irresponsible if they haven't by now.


Oh they will, if they aren't keepin' an eye on him already

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Fri 08/28/09 09:24 PM
even if you take all the political connotation out of it. Preaching such a thing is the antithesis of Christ's teachings and the Baptist Convention ought to take his congregation away from him

the Methodists would have

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Fri 08/28/09 09:32 PM

even if you take all the political connotation out of it. Preaching such a thing is the antithesis of Christ's teachings and the Baptist Convention ought to take his congregation away from him

the Methodists would have


Wow I never thought of that. I wonder if the Baptists will come out against this in any real way? hmmm

Quietman_2009's photo
Fri 08/28/09 09:38 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Fri 08/28/09 09:39 PM
being a Methodist, I doubt it

as long as there is no dancing they don't care

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Fri 08/28/09 09:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


This is really SICK!

Thanks Boo for sharing....there is too much hate in this country.

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Fri 08/28/09 09:54 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


This is really SICK!

Thanks Boo for sharing....there is too much hate in this country.


Ya know believe it or not I am suprised by it still, I thought we had come along way in this country but in the past 10 years I have noticed we haven't come too far on certain things.

willing2's photo
Sat 08/29/09 06:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


Ah, it's off u-tube.laugh

Probably a Liberal production to attempt to make some Baptists look evil.

Better luck next time.rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Sat 08/29/09 11:21 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


Ah, it's off u-tube.laugh

Probably a Liberal production to attempt to make some Baptists look evil.

Better luck next time.rofl rofl rofl rofl


All you did was to prove you don't keep up with the news much. This mans voice and his words were all over the news. Some Baptist preachers don't appear to need any help making a$$es of themsleves.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/01/09 10:13 AM
Tempe pastor reiterates wish for President Obama's death
Reported by: Tim Vetscher

TEMPE, AZ -- The United State Secret Service is speaking out about an East Valley pastor who is praying for President Barack Obama's death

Spokesperson Darrin Blackford said Monday, "We are aware of Pastor Anderson's comments and an appropriate follow up will be conducted."

Parishioners leaving the Faithful Word Baptist Church Sunday carried not just their Bibles, but guns as well.

Pastor Steven Anderson said he and his congregation have received death threats after a controversial sermon earlier this month.

"Guns are a great deterrent," said Anderson. "We haven't had any violence because people know if they come down here swinging a baseball bat, we're ready to protect ourselves."

On August 16th, Anderson delivered a sermon titled "Why I Hate Barack Obama."

In it, Anderson admitted he prays for the president's death.

It is a position he reiterated Sunday.

"If you want to know how I'd like to see Obama die, I'd like him to die of natural causes," said Anderson. "I don't want him to be a martyr, we don't need another holiday. I'd like to see him die, like Ted Kennedy, of brain cancer."

The sermon so incensed Bill Demski he traveled from his home in Glendale to picket Anderson's 10:30 a.m. Sunday morning service in Tempe.

"A man of the cloth wants to kill the president, how sick can you get," asked Demski.

Yet members of the Faithful Word Baptist Church defended their pastor's opinion of the president.

"If (Obama) thinks the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are obsolete, it would be better if (Obama) wasn't here," said parishioner Renee Houlihan.

But Anderson said despite the threats, he has no plans to change his message.

"I'm not going to back down, I wouldn't be worth my salt as a preacher if I let popularity determine what I preach," said Anderson.

One protester who didn't want to give his name was walking around with a rifle – in full view.

One of the parishioners who attended Sunday night services at the Faithful Word Baptist Church was Christopher Broughton.

"I actually moved to the area because this church was preaching the message I believe in," said Broughton.

Broughton had an AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle outside President Barack Obama's speech to the VFW at the Phoenix Convention Center earlier this month.

The night before the speech, on August 16th, Broughton listened to Anderson's "Why I hate Barack Obama" sermon.

"I concur, I think we'd be better off if God would send (Obama) where he's going now instead of later," said Broughton. "(Obama) is destroying our country."

When asked if he was advocating violence against the President, Broughton said he wouldn't answer the question directly.

"I don't care how God does it, I'm not going into further detail than that," said Broughton. "It would be better now than later."


http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-pastor-reiterates-wish-for-President-Obamas/MX2Vzd4unEi9n8PschT50w.cspx

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 09/01/09 10:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

I can't load these dang things with out waiting an insane amount of time to play them but thought I would link to it anyway. I heard his insane rant on cable this morning anyway.

What's up with Baptists, do they all think like this? I ask my Baptist neighbor and was shocked to hear her say that before long we will all wish for this death. She couldn't look me in my face as she said it, then laughed it off. Frankly that scares me to think Baptist preachers are preaching stuff like this.


I've never heard baptists talk like this until the recent "scandals" started. All baptists I know of think it's pretty f-ed up.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 09/01/09 10:18 AM
That is really scary Winx... some crazed person may take this to heart.. ya know act out on it and end up dead or in prison for listening to this guy.
Very, very sad indeed. :heart:

Winx's photo
Tue 09/01/09 10:20 AM
I remember the video about this Pastor! And he's the same Pastor that is praying for Obama to die. He never filed a complaint...interesting.

Tempe pastor: Border Patrol beat him at checkpoint
Reported by: Christina Boomer
Last Update: 4/17 5:48 pm

TEMPE, AZ-- An investigation has been opened by The Arizona Department of Public Safety to see if officers acted properly during a controversial border stop from Tuesday.

The man at the center of the stop is Steve Anderson from Tempe.

He’s the father of five children, a small business owner who travels about three days a week to California, and a pastor for Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe.

His wife Zsuzsanna is a housewife who also home schools their children.

The 27-year-old lived a quiet life until he posted a video on YouTube this week.

While sitting in his church, his wife’s hand on the record button, Anderson delivered a harrowing account of a recent encounter at a Border Patrol checkpoint in Arizona.

With large red marks across his forehead, he said he refused to answer a Border Patrol agent’s questions when stopped.

Agents then called in the Department of Public Safety to arrest him.

He said officers broke the windows, deployed a stun gun on him several times, and then smashed his head into the broken glass.

He was subsequently arrested.

At his Tempe home, he showed off several pieces of bloodstained clothing and several marks from stun gun prongs on his stomach and arm.

He admits to refusing to answer the Border Patrol agent’s questions and his reason is simple.

He argues that our forefathers who drafted the Constitution wrote the Fourth Amendment and Fifth Amendment in order to protect us from becoming a “totalitarian government”.

Checkpoints, he said, violate civil liberties.

In a DPS news release from Friday, officers said Anderson never filed a complaint with their office concerning his arrest but instead made a YouTube video that featured his version of the events of that day.

The news release also said the department was looking at current agency policies and procedures that officers must comply with when requested by any agency to respond to checkpoints.

As an American, Anderson said he should have the right to go anywhere he pleases without the government asking him what he is doing and why.

That is the beauty of America, he argued, the gift of a free society.

He does not believe officers had the right to search his car without a warrant.

Yuma Sector Border Patrol spokesman Ben Vik confirmed the arrest late Thursday.

Vik said that on April 14th, Anderson was in the eastbound lanes of Interstate 8 when he pulled into a checkpoint near mile marker 78.

Vik said one of their police dogs alerted agents to Anderson’s car.

Border Patrol dogs are trained to sniff out illegal narcotics or hidden people, and if the dog suspects something and alerts an agent, Vik said that gives Border Patrol probable cause to search a vehicle.

Anderson refused to that search, he refused to answer questions, and he refused to move to a secondary inspection area, according to Vik.

Border Patrol officials said Anderson refused to leave his car for more than an hour, which is when Department of Public Safety officers arrived to arrest him.

Anderson describes himself as a “Constitutionalist”.

His wife’s blog is full of references to the concerns the couple has about signs they see the U.S. government is morphing into a totalitarian government.

His wife was born in communist Hungary and explained that she loves America and all the freedoms people have here.

This isn't the first and only YouTube video Anderson has posted. See some of his other stories below:

Airport Police

New Mexico Border Patrol

Bible Burning

Anderson said he supports border security and believes illegal immigration is a problem, but states that I-8 is not the border.

He said he took his incident to the internet, in part, to broadcast his larger battle over the existence of Border Patrol checkpoints beyond the border.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Border Patrol checkpoints more than 30 years ago.

In 1976, United States V. Martinez-Fuerte the Court found that briefly stopping cars did not violate the Fourth Amendment because they are minimally intrusive and therefore did not constitution an unreasonable search or seizure.

Arizona Department of Public Safety Statement Concerning the Arrest of Steven L. Anderson

Arrest took place Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at a U.S. Border Patrol Checkpoint

The U.S. Border Patrol asked the Arizona Department of Public Safety to assist their Officers with a combative motorist who refused to cooperate at a checkpoint in the westbound lanes of Interstate 8. Steven L. Anderson, the combative motorist, was arrested by a DPS Officer for resisting a lawful order during the incident and booked into the Yuma County Jail.

Mr. Anderson never filed a complaint with DPS concerning his arrest but instead made a You-Tube video that featured his version of the events of that day.

An investigation by the Arizona Department of Public Safety's Professional Standards Bureau is underway. DPS is looking at current agency policies and procedures that officers must comply with when requested by any agency to respond to checkpoints.

In this particular instance DPS will look at our Officer's response and actions. We will offer no further comment on this incident until the investigation has been concluded.

*It should be noted that in 1976, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of Federal checkpoints near border areas to enforce laws prohibiting illegal immigration. This U.S. Border Patrol checkpoint along Interstate 8 is in compliance with federal law.*

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/centralsouthernarizona/tucson/story/Tempe-pastor-Border-Patrol-beat-him-at-checkpoint/FYxzzCRcnUehq5uY8nZXHQ.cspx

Winx's photo
Tue 09/01/09 10:23 AM

That is really scary Winx... some crazed person may take this to heart.. ya know act out on it and end up dead or in prison for listening to this guy.
Very, very sad indeed. :heart:


It is scary and sad.:cry: flowerforyou