Topic: Act to Stop the Current Health Care Reform
willing2's photo
Sat 08/29/09 05:22 AM

Jimmy the gent your cool and I agree with everything you say. Health care as well as stopping illegals in this country need to happen for the amercian people. We are the silent majority and are not longer silent and we vote.

How can a person call himself a true Democrat when they want to stop Illegals???
BHO is all for open borders and giving free health care to Illegals.

peppydog50's photo
Sat 08/29/09 05:30 AM
Your on another planet. It must be nice there not to have to deal with reality.

no photo
Sat 08/29/09 06:44 AM


Why is it that this thing called "the government" is deemed incapable of running any kind of program whatsoever in any manner which is even remotely competent, but somehow is capable of operating some grand conspiracy to take over your life and dictate to you everything that you do? It's after midnight. I'll go turn on AM and find out the answer.




LET US TEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY!


Bureau of Indian Affairs

NASA

Prohibition

Affirmative Action

Homeland Security

TSA

Social Security

Domestic Energy Policy

FEMA

Bill Clinton giving our Patent Data Base to China

Department of Education

Shall I continue with the list of Failures?

I suppose our Government can do everything including run our lives better than us?

Why don't you star in your own AM late night radio show!

I'll stick with You Tube thank you!


tongue2


Utube? Oh now that's a real education source. Thanks for the laugh first thing in the morning.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sat 08/29/09 10:21 AM
Sad, sad. Amazing how people don't care as long as they don't have to worry about it personally.

Government never ran anything efficiently. This includes social security and medicare.

Do i want to get rid of these? Not really.

But, do i think the country would benefit from creating a bigger program that has yet, more of an impact on our lives? Hell no.

Problem # 1. We haven't the funds. So it all has to come from somewhere. As a middle class American you would spend roughly 70% of your money on taxes. How much more can you afford?

Problem # 2. There is nothing in the legislation that "cleans" up anything. The fact is, that in order to improve a system, you must make it more efficient. Haven't been around to do as much reading lately, but i've seen no points or efforts made to make a system more efficient. In fact, government intervention, has caused many ineffiencies that are in our healthcare system.

If i saw funds being cut from wars, or many other WASTEFUL areas, where trillions are lost, i would be all for it. But they aren't cutting anything.

Are we having a healthcare crisis? Perhaps. Do i think it can be better? Indeed.

But, but we need is a cause and affect analysis of the system we can see. We need to address the problems causing the system to fail, first.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 08/29/09 10:29 AM

Your on another planet. It must be nice there not to have to deal with reality.



It is... I rather like it here on my own planet :smile:

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 08/29/09 10:51 AM

Hogwash. So you want to eliminate Medicare and Social Security too?? laugh




Actually I do. It's one of the world's largest ponzi schemes.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 08/29/09 10:53 AM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Sat 08/29/09 10:53 AM



Why is it that this thing called "the government" is deemed incapable of running any kind of program whatsoever in any manner which is even remotely competent, but somehow is capable of operating some grand conspiracy to take over your life and dictate to you everything that you do? It's after midnight. I'll go turn on AM and find out the answer.




LET US TEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY!


Bureau of Indian Affairs

NASA

Prohibition

Affirmative Action

Homeland Security

TSA

Social Security

Domestic Energy Policy

FEMA

Bill Clinton giving our Patent Data Base to China

Department of Education

Shall I continue with the list of Failures?

I suppose our Government can do everything including run our lives better than us?

Why don't you star in your own AM late night radio show!

I'll stick with You Tube thank you!


tongue2


Utube? Oh now that's a real education source. Thanks for the laugh first thing in the morning.


In my experience, professors and teachers who give their work away on youtube are more capable than government school teachers. :smile: Seeing as American education is among the world's WORST, I would hardly call THAT a reliable source either. :wink:

no photo
Sat 08/29/09 11:27 AM




Why is it that this thing called "the government" is deemed incapable of running any kind of program whatsoever in any manner which is even remotely competent, but somehow is capable of operating some grand conspiracy to take over your life and dictate to you everything that you do? It's after midnight. I'll go turn on AM and find out the answer.




LET US TEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY!


Bureau of Indian Affairs

NASA

Prohibition

Affirmative Action

Homeland Security

TSA

Social Security

Domestic Energy Policy

FEMA

Bill Clinton giving our Patent Data Base to China

Department of Education

Shall I continue with the list of Failures?

I suppose our Government can do everything including run our lives better than us?

Why don't you star in your own AM late night radio show!

I'll stick with You Tube thank you!


tongue2


Utube? Oh now that's a real education source. Thanks for the laugh first thing in the morning.


In my experience, professors and teachers who give their work away on youtube are more capable than government school teachers. :smile: Seeing as American education is among the world's WORST, I would hardly call THAT a reliable source either. :wink:


some may very well do so, but for the most part it's simply a soap box for the discontent in our society.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sat 08/29/09 11:34 AM





Why is it that this thing called "the government" is deemed incapable of running any kind of program whatsoever in any manner which is even remotely competent, but somehow is capable of operating some grand conspiracy to take over your life and dictate to you everything that you do? It's after midnight. I'll go turn on AM and find out the answer.




LET US TEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY!


Bureau of Indian Affairs

NASA

Prohibition

Affirmative Action

Homeland Security

TSA

Social Security

Domestic Energy Policy

FEMA

Bill Clinton giving our Patent Data Base to China

Department of Education

Shall I continue with the list of Failures?

I suppose our Government can do everything including run our lives better than us?

Why don't you star in your own AM late night radio show!

I'll stick with You Tube thank you!


tongue2


Utube? Oh now that's a real education source. Thanks for the laugh first thing in the morning.


In my experience, professors and teachers who give their work away on youtube are more capable than government school teachers. :smile: Seeing as American education is among the world's WORST, I would hardly call THAT a reliable source either. :wink:


some may very well do so, but for the most part it's simply a soap box for the discontent in our society.


They are all soap boxes, for discontent members of society. As a fellow discontent memeber of society, which soap box would you recommend?

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 08/29/09 11:35 AM
Like a car, either we fix what we got or we junk it. A lot of times you cannot just go out and by a new car. You have to fix what you got.

The systems we have can be fixed but congress needs to become more responsible! We as voters need to get out and vote.

I am uninsured. There is no way I can afford it. I am not about to demand the government make someone else pay for me like many of these poor "the world owes me a living" types. I make no bones about it, I am not exactly poor but I am not doing all that well either. I try very hard to pull my own weight. Sadly most and I mean 90% of Americans do not share my work ethic. Get a job or get training! I am sick and tired of seeing these drug addict a@@holes on every freeway off ramp in LA with signs, "Homeless and Hungry, will work for food." If they were really looking for work they would do what the Hispanics here do and hang out at Home Depot looking for work, not hand outs.

We need to address the greed and profiteering LONG LONG LONG before we impose another doomed to fail program on the American people!

What the hell part of the words 'Financial Responsibility' do you Liberals not want to get? If we haven't got the money where are we supposed to get it from. Do you think even remotely I can afford to throw more money into a system that is not putting a roof over my head or food in my stomach? I can BARELY afford rent and the other expenses needed to maintain myself like Fuel for the car, food, and utilities. Now I got to get taxed even more to support some drug addict son of a beyatch or some illegal immigrant?

Some people get it but some of you DON'T. AS long as you got your comfy life style what does anything matter to you?

Don't show your face in my neighborhood spouting this whole 'Obamacare is Good' crap because if I don't rob you my neighbors might! I need the money!


(I hope you are smart enough to realize I am being sarcastic! Then again...spock )

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 08/29/09 11:54 AM

I hope people understand that the plan Obama is pushing allows the government the ability to automatically deduct from your bank accounts with or WITHOUT your approval.

This is illegal and unconstitutional. Better act now people! This is the most blatant attack on our civil rights yet!

And for those of you who want to give Obama his chance? He done ran himself out already! We do not need this brand of misrepresentation any more!


Social security is unconstitutional too, but that didn't stop it! frustrated

no photo
Sat 08/29/09 01:17 PM

Like a car, either we fix what we got or we junk it. A lot of times you cannot just go out and by a new car. You have to fix what you got.

The systems we have can be fixed but congress needs to become more responsible! We as voters need to get out and vote.

I am uninsured. There is no way I can afford it. I am not about to demand the government make someone else pay for me like many of these poor "the world owes me a living" types. I make no bones about it, I am not exactly poor but I am not doing all that well either. I try very hard to pull my own weight. Sadly most and I mean 90% of Americans do not share my work ethic. Get a job or get training! I am sick and tired of seeing these drug addict a@@holes on every freeway off ramp in LA with signs, "Homeless and Hungry, will work for food." If they were really looking for work they would do what the Hispanics here do and hang out at Home Depot looking for work, not hand outs.

We need to address the greed and profiteering LONG LONG LONG before we impose another doomed to fail program on the American people!

What the hell part of the words 'Financial Responsibility' do you Liberals not want to get? If we haven't got the money where are we supposed to get it from. Do you think even remotely I can afford to throw more money into a system that is not putting a roof over my head or food in my stomach? I can BARELY afford rent and the other expenses needed to maintain myself like Fuel for the car, food, and utilities. Now I got to get taxed even more to support some drug addict son of a beyatch or some illegal immigrant?

Some people get it but some of you DON'T. AS long as you got your comfy life style what does anything matter to you?

Don't show your face in my neighborhood spouting this whole 'Obamacare is Good' crap because if I don't rob you my neighbors might! I need the money!


(I hope you are smart enough to realize I am being sarcastic! Then again...spock )


A bit arrogant aren't you? I also can not afford insurance. But I am not begging for it either, if it happens great if not, oh well, I'll deal with it. I do all my own home repairs and hell most of the home repairs in my neighborhood. My normal work is computers but the economy has slowed that down to a crawl. I own my own home and vehicle out right and do whatever it takes to pay the bills. Mow lawns, landscaping, home repair, whatever. I don't sit around whining about how much harder I have to work, or about what I can't have right now or about people that are scaming the system. There are tons of people out there that didn't do anything to deserve the way things are right now, and you can bet the insurance companies don't give a damn either. I worry about them, not the scammers and the greedy..

There have always been people that scam both rich and poor, but I don't b%tch about it endlessly. There are more people that are worthy of help than those that might not be, but I don't know who is who so I am not going to judge them.

I am a liberal and proud to be a liberal, but we are not all comfy and out of touch. I don't think you are being sarcastic, I think your being mean spirited and whiney.

I dont' want to live in a 3rd world situation, or live in the damn past. It's not the 30's.....

I never realized how many people subscribe to the notion WE CANT...

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 08/29/09 01:56 PM

Like a car, either we fix what we got or we junk it. A lot of times you cannot just go out and by a new car. You have to fix what you got.

The systems we have can be fixed but congress needs to become more responsible! We as voters need to get out and vote.

I am uninsured. There is no way I can afford it. I am not about to demand the government make someone else pay for me like many of these poor "the world owes me a living" types. I make no bones about it, I am not exactly poor but I am not doing all that well either. I try very hard to pull my own weight. Sadly most and I mean 90% of Americans do not share my work ethic. Get a job or get training! I am sick and tired of seeing these drug addict a@@holes on every freeway off ramp in LA with signs, "Homeless and Hungry, will work for food." If they were really looking for work they would do what the Hispanics here do and hang out at Home Depot looking for work, not hand outs.

We need to address the greed and profiteering LONG LONG LONG before we impose another doomed to fail program on the American people!

What the hell part of the words 'Financial Responsibility' do you Liberals not want to get? If we haven't got the money where are we supposed to get it from. Do you think even remotely I can afford to throw more money into a system that is not putting a roof over my head or food in my stomach? I can BARELY afford rent and the other expenses needed to maintain myself like Fuel for the car, food, and utilities. Now I got to get taxed even more to support some drug addict son of a beyatch or some illegal immigrant?

Some people get it but some of you DON'T. AS long as you got your comfy life style what does anything matter to you?

Don't show your face in my neighborhood spouting this whole 'Obamacare is Good' crap because if I don't rob you my neighbors might! I need the money!


(I hope you are smart enough to realize I am being sarcastic! Then again...spock )


FWIW, "conservatives" aren't too keen on fiscal responsibility either, unless they're pretending to criticize left-liberals.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 08/29/09 03:26 PM


Like a car, either we fix what we got or we junk it. A lot of times you cannot just go out and by a new car. You have to fix what you got.

The systems we have can be fixed but congress needs to become more responsible! We as voters need to get out and vote.

I am uninsured. There is no way I can afford it. I am not about to demand the government make someone else pay for me like many of these poor "the world owes me a living" types. I make no bones about it, I am not exactly poor but I am not doing all that well either. I try very hard to pull my own weight. Sadly most and I mean 90% of Americans do not share my work ethic. Get a job or get training! I am sick and tired of seeing these drug addict a@@holes on every freeway off ramp in LA with signs, "Homeless and Hungry, will work for food." If they were really looking for work they would do what the Hispanics here do and hang out at Home Depot looking for work, not hand outs.

We need to address the greed and profiteering LONG LONG LONG before we impose another doomed to fail program on the American people!

What the hell part of the words 'Financial Responsibility' do you Liberals not want to get? If we haven't got the money where are we supposed to get it from. Do you think even remotely I can afford to throw more money into a system that is not putting a roof over my head or food in my stomach? I can BARELY afford rent and the other expenses needed to maintain myself like Fuel for the car, food, and utilities. Now I got to get taxed even more to support some drug addict son of a beyatch or some illegal immigrant?

Some people get it but some of you DON'T. AS long as you got your comfy life style what does anything matter to you?

Don't show your face in my neighborhood spouting this whole 'Obamacare is Good' crap because if I don't rob you my neighbors might! I need the money!


(I hope you are smart enough to realize I am being sarcastic! Then again...spock )


A bit arrogant aren't you? I also can not afford insurance. But I am not begging for it either, if it happens great if not, oh well, I'll deal with it. I do all my own home repairs and hell most of the home repairs in my neighborhood. My normal work is computers but the economy has slowed that down to a crawl. I own my own home and vehicle out right and do whatever it takes to pay the bills. Mow lawns, landscaping, home repair, whatever. I don't sit around whining about how much harder I have to work, or about what I can't have right now or about people that are scaming the system. There are tons of people out there that didn't do anything to deserve the way things are right now, and you can bet the insurance companies don't give a damn either. I worry about them, not the scammers and the greedy..

There have always been people that scam both rich and poor, but I don't b%tch about it endlessly. There are more people that are worthy of help than those that might not be, but I don't know who is who so I am not going to judge them.

I am a liberal and proud to be a liberal, but we are not all comfy and out of touch. I don't think you are being sarcastic, I think your being mean spirited and whiney.

I dont' want to live in a 3rd world situation, or live in the damn past. It's not the 30's.....

I never realized how many people subscribe to the notion WE CANT...


Well I don't own a house, I do own my car outright. I do whatever it takes to pay my bills as well. It isn't arrogance, it is my dislike of incompetence. Would you pay for a service poorly performed? For example you order a Meat Lovers Pizza and pay by plastic but when you get it it is a cheese pizza and on top of that the delivery guy dropped it. THAT IS OUR GOVERNMENT! See where I am coming from?

noblenan's photo
Sat 08/29/09 03:50 PM

What is bankrupting the system is that the majority of Americans could not pass a basic first aid course and or health class before or since they have graduated high school. If they have a chronic illness there is little or no patient education.

What is bankrupting the system is that many of the diagnotics tests and medications that are available over the counter in other countries for free are not available here.

What is bankrupting the system is patients do not own their medical records and many tests are repeated unneccisarily or not available for comparison. We have the technology that we could provide everyone a records "smart card".

What is bankrupting the system is that seeing a doctor is so difficult and so expensive for basic maintenace and preventive care that millions of minor problems go untreated and escalate to catesrophic care needs.

What is bankrupting the system is the number of people who are NOT covered or not covered ENOUGH when serious medical care is needed and they must provide it.

What is also bankrutping the system is the number of procedures that are required to prevent malpractice from tests, to paper work, to micro-management.

What is bankrupting the system is the ridiculouse out of date training and staffing rules that exhaust doctors and nurseing staff and force them into trying to cover up incompetents and just plain mistakes and accidents, and no win outcomes.

What is bankrupting the system is the turfing of prisoners, mental health patients, and dependent and abused seniors into ER's and beds because those care systems are broken and families can not provide the needed level of care with little or no support.

What is bankrupting the system is the antiquated medication and record keeping in many of the facilities in this country that allow for extensive mistakes, waste, incompetency, and terrible service statistics, and tax write offs. If it were any other industry it would be swamped with litigation.

The Insurance industry has made it so the "litigation" of legitimate claims that would get rid of grossly incompetent staff, procedures, and waiting times and layers of beauracy that cost millions in not only dollars but lives.

What is bankrupting the System is believeing that a state medical care system will prevent those who want private care and are willing to pay for it can't get it. People who have money go around their insurer's all the time but people who don't have money are lucky to get any care if they go outside of their insurer.

What is bankrupting the system is the number of costs that keep being pushed off on paying patients because some Doctors and facilities try to be fair and save uninsured lives.

What is bankrupting the system is the first payor requirement that creates a mountain of paper work with in the state systems even when patients clearly can not pay. The whole collection procedure is terribly expensive. Medical bankruptcies are the leading cause of a really wasteful procedure for our court systems. The people getting the care get nothing out of it.

What is bankrupting the system is the number of addicts that get little or no effective treatment until their bodies are ravaged requireing millions in sophisticated care. Not to mention the other costs to the economy.

What is bankrupting the system is many of the jobs that are being created by this broken system are out sourced to foreign employment that tax payers are having to pay for and see no returned income.


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InvictusV's photo
Sat 08/29/09 03:58 PM
I wish they would just vote on the damn thing, I'm sick of hearing about it.

no photo
Sat 08/29/09 04:05 PM



Like a car, either we fix what we got or we junk it. A lot of times you cannot just go out and by a new car. You have to fix what you got.

The systems we have can be fixed but congress needs to become more responsible! We as voters need to get out and vote.

I am uninsured. There is no way I can afford it. I am not about to demand the government make someone else pay for me like many of these poor "the world owes me a living" types. I make no bones about it, I am not exactly poor but I am not doing all that well either. I try very hard to pull my own weight. Sadly most and I mean 90% of Americans do not share my work ethic. Get a job or get training! I am sick and tired of seeing these drug addict a@@holes on every freeway off ramp in LA with signs, "Homeless and Hungry, will work for food." If they were really looking for work they would do what the Hispanics here do and hang out at Home Depot looking for work, not hand outs.

We need to address the greed and profiteering LONG LONG LONG before we impose another doomed to fail program on the American people!

What the hell part of the words 'Financial Responsibility' do you Liberals not want to get? If we haven't got the money where are we supposed to get it from. Do you think even remotely I can afford to throw more money into a system that is not putting a roof over my head or food in my stomach? I can BARELY afford rent and the other expenses needed to maintain myself like Fuel for the car, food, and utilities. Now I got to get taxed even more to support some drug addict son of a beyatch or some illegal immigrant?

Some people get it but some of you DON'T. AS long as you got your comfy life style what does anything matter to you?

Don't show your face in my neighborhood spouting this whole 'Obamacare is Good' crap because if I don't rob you my neighbors might! I need the money!


(I hope you are smart enough to realize I am being sarcastic! Then again...spock )


A bit arrogant aren't you? I also can not afford insurance. But I am not begging for it either, if it happens great if not, oh well, I'll deal with it. I do all my own home repairs and hell most of the home repairs in my neighborhood. My normal work is computers but the economy has slowed that down to a crawl. I own my own home and vehicle out right and do whatever it takes to pay the bills. Mow lawns, landscaping, home repair, whatever. I don't sit around whining about how much harder I have to work, or about what I can't have right now or about people that are scaming the system. There are tons of people out there that didn't do anything to deserve the way things are right now, and you can bet the insurance companies don't give a damn either. I worry about them, not the scammers and the greedy..

There have always been people that scam both rich and poor, but I don't b%tch about it endlessly. There are more people that are worthy of help than those that might not be, but I don't know who is who so I am not going to judge them.

I am a liberal and proud to be a liberal, but we are not all comfy and out of touch. I don't think you are being sarcastic, I think your being mean spirited and whiney.

I dont' want to live in a 3rd world situation, or live in the damn past. It's not the 30's.....

I never realized how many people subscribe to the notion WE CANT...


Well I don't own a house, I do own my car outright. I do whatever it takes to pay my bills as well. It isn't arrogance, it is my dislike of incompetence. Would you pay for a service poorly performed? For example you order a Meat Lovers Pizza and pay by plastic but when you get it it is a cheese pizza and on top of that the delivery guy dropped it. THAT IS OUR GOVERNMENT! See where I am coming from?


Well not a good example for me. I didn't eat out so that I could pay my home off in 15 years instead of 30. If you don't like incompetence why don't you own your own home by your age? Seems to me you are no better off than those that live paycheck to paycheck. And not much better off than the people you complain about, because if something happens that you have no control of, you are right there with them.

You better hope for a public plan or a bullet if you get sick. And god help you if you become so sick you can't work, because if you fellow man thinks like you do, your scr$wed.

I'm not fond of incompetence myself, but stuff happens, and if you are not prepared your just as bad off as others. Seem to me you'd rather blame regular folks than the corporations that make insurance impossible to afford and are more concerned with their bottom line than your health. Heaven forbid there are some good people in the government that would like to see the damn insurance companies have competition to prevent them from ripping people off or taking their money and giving them nothing.

tallaght_guy's photo
Sat 08/29/09 04:52 PM
well here in ireland we have goverment healthcare its not perfect and long waiting lists but least you not crippled financially if somthing hapens to you
and if you can afford it you can go private the option is with you
my advice have a look on web see how other countries provide medical care then make up your mind on the bill

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 08/29/09 04:58 PM

I wish they would just vote on the damn thing, I'm sick of hearing about it.


But, the more they distract themselves from voting, the better off we'll all be! :)

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 08/29/09 05:27 PM




Like a car, either we fix what we got or we junk it. A lot of times you cannot just go out and by a new car. You have to fix what you got.

The systems we have can be fixed but congress needs to become more responsible! We as voters need to get out and vote.

I am uninsured. There is no way I can afford it. I am not about to demand the government make someone else pay for me like many of these poor "the world owes me a living" types. I make no bones about it, I am not exactly poor but I am not doing all that well either. I try very hard to pull my own weight. Sadly most and I mean 90% of Americans do not share my work ethic. Get a job or get training! I am sick and tired of seeing these drug addict a@@holes on every freeway off ramp in LA with signs, "Homeless and Hungry, will work for food." If they were really looking for work they would do what the Hispanics here do and hang out at Home Depot looking for work, not hand outs.

We need to address the greed and profiteering LONG LONG LONG before we impose another doomed to fail program on the American people!

What the hell part of the words 'Financial Responsibility' do you Liberals not want to get? If we haven't got the money where are we supposed to get it from. Do you think even remotely I can afford to throw more money into a system that is not putting a roof over my head or food in my stomach? I can BARELY afford rent and the other expenses needed to maintain myself like Fuel for the car, food, and utilities. Now I got to get taxed even more to support some drug addict son of a beyatch or some illegal immigrant?

Some people get it but some of you DON'T. AS long as you got your comfy life style what does anything matter to you?

Don't show your face in my neighborhood spouting this whole 'Obamacare is Good' crap because if I don't rob you my neighbors might! I need the money!


(I hope you are smart enough to realize I am being sarcastic! Then again...spock )


A bit arrogant aren't you? I also can not afford insurance. But I am not begging for it either, if it happens great if not, oh well, I'll deal with it. I do all my own home repairs and hell most of the home repairs in my neighborhood. My normal work is computers but the economy has slowed that down to a crawl. I own my own home and vehicle out right and do whatever it takes to pay the bills. Mow lawns, landscaping, home repair, whatever. I don't sit around whining about how much harder I have to work, or about what I can't have right now or about people that are scaming the system. There are tons of people out there that didn't do anything to deserve the way things are right now, and you can bet the insurance companies don't give a damn either. I worry about them, not the scammers and the greedy..

There have always been people that scam both rich and poor, but I don't b%tch about it endlessly. There are more people that are worthy of help than those that might not be, but I don't know who is who so I am not going to judge them.

I am a liberal and proud to be a liberal, but we are not all comfy and out of touch. I don't think you are being sarcastic, I think your being mean spirited and whiney.

I dont' want to live in a 3rd world situation, or live in the damn past. It's not the 30's.....

I never realized how many people subscribe to the notion WE CANT...


Well I don't own a house, I do own my car outright. I do whatever it takes to pay my bills as well. It isn't arrogance, it is my dislike of incompetence. Would you pay for a service poorly performed? For example you order a Meat Lovers Pizza and pay by plastic but when you get it it is a cheese pizza and on top of that the delivery guy dropped it. THAT IS OUR GOVERNMENT! See where I am coming from?


Well not a good example for me. I didn't eat out so that I could pay my home off in 15 years instead of 30. If you don't like incompetence why don't you own your own home by your age? Seems to me you are no better off than those that live paycheck to paycheck. And not much better off than the people you complain about, because if something happens that you have no control of, you are right there with them.

You better hope for a public plan or a bullet if you get sick. And god help you if you become so sick you can't work, because if you fellow man thinks like you do, your scr$wed.

I'm not fond of incompetence myself, but stuff happens, and if you are not prepared your just as bad off as others. Seem to me you'd rather blame regular folks than the corporations that make insurance impossible to afford and are more concerned with their bottom line than your health. Heaven forbid there are some good people in the government that would like to see the damn insurance companies have competition to prevent them from ripping people off or taking their money and giving them nothing.




Now that is just plain arrogance. I live in LA. Do you have any idea how expensive it is to live here let alone property values being artificially inflated. Thanks to Obama the banks are flush with money so they are not compelled to drop prices. Landlords are just beginning to realize they overpriced themselves when their units are empty and there is a rash of vacancies here and I mean a lot more than I have seen in years. I service a number of realtors doing things like Code Compliance for Escrow. Needles to say property is just not selling no matter what the media says. If properties were selling I would be doing more work than whatever I can scrounge up. Don't tell me to buy when I can't even save any money because bills suck it out faster than I can make it thanks to all the rate increases and new fees. Take a good look at CA. The sales tax went up to 9.75% (ROUND UP!) so what do you think that did to domestic sales?

Please, now you want to add a new tax they will take directly from what little I have in my bank account? Gee, I wonder how my land lord would take it if my rent check bounced because of a government deduction tapped right from my bank account I didn't know about or they took more than I could afford!

Damn if people act like they are blind!