Topic: i think therefore i am haha :D
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Tue 08/25/09 06:33 AM
ain gta clue wt im doin but yaaaaaaaaaay ! lol

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Tue 08/25/09 06:34 AM
Hey you are a philosopher now! Congratulationslaugh drinker

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Tue 08/25/09 06:36 AM
i think you are

so you must be

rachy_ooo's photo
Tue 08/25/09 06:36 AM
yaaaaaaaay lol
na im intregied by rene descartes theory! its nuts!
im atheist for 1 so its answers all my questions lmao x

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Tue 08/25/09 06:37 AM

i think you are

so you must be
that goes perfect with your picture omg so great... lol

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Tue 08/25/09 06:37 AM
whoa rofl

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Tue 08/25/09 06:37 AM

yaaaaaaaay lol
na im intregied by rene descartes theory! its nuts!
im atheist for 1 so its answers all my questions lmao x
ditto haha

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Tue 08/25/09 06:38 AM
sum right little cuties on here today :D lol

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Tue 08/25/09 06:39 AM

yaaaaaaaay lol
na im intregied by rene descartes theory! its nuts!
im atheist for 1 so its answers all my questions lmao x


There is a book just written about Descartes called "Descartes Bones' By Russel Shorto.

I think you will enjoy this if you get the chancedrinker

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Tue 08/25/09 06:39 AM

sum right little cuties on here today :D lol
did yu mean ripe? >:3

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Tue 08/25/09 06:40 AM
no definately right lol

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Tue 08/25/09 06:42 AM

no definately right lol
okay okay =]]

I distinguish the two as follows: there is conviction when there remains some reason which might lead us to doubt, but knowledge is conviction based on a reason so strong that it can never be shaken by any stronger reason

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Tue 08/25/09 06:49 AM
:thumbsup:

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Tue 08/25/09 06:51 AM
drinker

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Tue 08/25/09 03:46 PM
If you recognize yourself by naming yourself 'I' then you realize that you exist as a being.

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Tue 08/25/09 03:56 PM

yaaaaaaaay lol
na im intregied by rene descartes theory! its nuts!
im atheist for 1 so its answers all my questions lmao x


I am not sure how Descartes answers questions for an atheist...

Meditation III: Concerning God, That He Exists
Descartes proposed that there are three types of ideas: Innate, Invented, and Adventitious. Innate ideas are and have always been within us, Fictitious or invented ideas come from our imagination, and Adventitious ideas come from experiences of the world. He argues that the idea of God is Innate and placed in us by God and he rejected the possibility that the idea of God is Invented or Adventitious.

Argument 1

Something cannot come from nothing.
The cause of an idea must have at least as much formal reality as the idea has objective reality.
I have in me an idea of God. This idea has infinite objective reality.
I cannot be the cause of this idea, since I am not an infinite and perfect being. I don't have enough formal reality. Only an infinite and perfect being could cause such an idea.
So God — a being with infinite formal reality — must exist (and be the source of my idea of God).
An absolutely perfect being is a good, benevolent being.
So God is benevolent.
So God would not deceive me and would not permit me to error without giving me a way to correct my errors.
Argument 2

I exist.
My existence must have a cause.
The cause must be either:
a) myself
b) my always having existed
c) my parents
d) something less perfect than God
e) God
4. Not a. If I had created myself, I would have made myself perfect.
5. Not b. This does not solve the problem. If I am a dependent being, I need to be continually sustained by another.
6. Not c. This leads to an infinite regress.
7. Not d. The idea of perfection that exists in me cannot have originated from a non-perfect being.
8. Therefore, e. God exists.
Descartes argued that he had a clear and distinct idea of God. In the same way that the cogito was self-evident, so too is the existence of God, as his perfect idea of a perfect being could not have been caused by anything less than a perfect being.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations_on_First_Philosophy

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Tue 08/25/09 03:59 PM
Descartes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Descartes