Topic: What Would You Do?
BonnyMiss's photo
Fri 08/21/09 11:24 PM


I know a family...with a mum and a dad....had four kids, lived in a dirt floored shack, no electricity, no running water for 13 years...three of the kids were born there..


what's your thoughts on that family?



OP.....my point in the post I made is....

There was a mum and a dad, four gorgeous kids, ranging in ages from the eldest boy was one, when they moved to the little shack on the hill...he was four when his sister appeared....they were ten and six when their brother appeared and two years later a little sister.

Thos kids ran barefoot and naked for the first four years of their lives...grubbly little faces, long tangled hair...brown as berries, and glowing with happiness and health...

They were piled in a loft bedroom like puppies in a pile...close, secure, generous, and nurturing towards each other...home educated...home grown food...a house of much laughter and joy.


That family was mine...and for much of their young childhoods, had a freedom most only see in movies...

Two are adults now...my eldest boy, a man of 24, stood beside me, held my hand, and wiped the tears from my eyes as we farewelled my uncle yesterday to the sounds of a lone bagpiper...

We drove all night, talked all night, went and looked at a house today, (which he signed papers on to buy)...he left two hours ago, with the sounds of his sisters' and brother's goodbyes ringing in his ears...loved, and wrapped in his family's love.


Just because we appeared to look like paupers, and uncaring for our babies because we didn't live in a mansion with all the bells and whistles....has no weight on the TRUTH of what family means.


Please don't judge these people through your 18 years old eyes...

for one day you may be a parent, and some 18 year old may judge you.

flowerforyou




Jess, I have the biggest lump in my throat and pride in my heart for you and your children. I know how much you dote on your children and they on you.It matters not (sometimes) where a child is raised, it is the parent's influence on that child/children that matters most.You have done an outstanding job my lovely. :heart: flowerforyou :heart:

no photo
Fri 08/21/09 11:27 PM
Sticking your nose up someones azz is one thing, sticking your entire head up there is yet another.

When I was a child.. a friends house burned down, no Insurance, they lost everything.
So they lived in the chicken coop for many years after that,
The kids were always clean and clearly well fed and most of all, they were happy.
Hard times make us much stronger!!!

Renting is a hell of a lot of money down the toilet, gone forever and nothing to show for it.
at least living in a camper.. overhead is really low (so to speak) much easier to pay off bills and save money.

If people worried as much about themselves as they do about others, There would be a lot less screwed up people around.\

You are only 18, you haven't had to really live your own life yet,
You have no idea what is waiting for you in the future, but will soon find out.

come back in 20 years, then give us your opinion.

Seriously not meant to be condescending, Just being real.
and I just don't do sugar coating.

Jess642's photo
Fri 08/21/09 11:33 PM



Jess, I have the biggest lump in my throat and pride in my heart for you and your children. I know how much you dote on your children and they on you.It matters not (sometimes) where a child is raised, it is the parent's influence on that child/children that matters most.You have done an outstanding job my lovely. :heart: flowerforyou :heart:



Bonny....thankyou....I am so honoured to be called Mum by these amazing young people...

I know how much your grown up babies mean to you, also...we are both truly blessed women.

:heart:

BonnyMiss's photo
Fri 08/21/09 11:44 PM




Jess, I have the biggest lump in my throat and pride in my heart for you and your children. I know how much you dote on your children and they on you.It matters not (sometimes) where a child is raised, it is the parent's influence on that child/children that matters most.You have done an outstanding job my lovely. :heart: flowerforyou :heart:



Bonny....thankyou....I am so honoured to be called Mum by these amazing young people...

I know how much your grown up babies mean to you, also...we are both truly blessed women.

:heart:


I melt every time I think of my babies ( yes, I know they are 25 and 20) but they are still my babies.I am also very proud that my son has joined the caring profession ( he is a care giver in the community) my daughter is now a dental nurse. We may have struggled to raise our children Jess, but the rewards of seeing them become well adjusted adults has been worth all the effort we have made when raising them. :heart:

PacificStar48's photo
Sat 08/22/09 12:02 AM
Edited by PacificStar48 on Sat 08/22/09 12:03 AM
If these children are sheltered,fed, supervised, and not being abused it is highly unlikely that CPS is going to do anything with so many children in the USA living below that standard.

While I don't think that is really a great option it is surely better than forceing the children into seperate foster placements and possible the parents into jail. It is unlikely that they will give up the children without a fight.

If you are really worried about their saftey then provide them a battery operated smoke and CO2 detector. Sadley some campers do have "issues" when they are used for winter houseing.

If you want to help children why not find out why some from Katrina are sill living in Fema trailers.

xCoyoteGirlx's photo
Sat 08/22/09 12:32 AM
if i had any possible way of getting to the south i would do so.:smile: but i cant.sad2 i wasnt planning on calling childrens services of any kind.noway i just wanted ideas on how to help them stay warmer and things like that.:smile: i wouldnt wish separation of child and parents on anyone.noway i wouldnt have wanted it to have happened to me.noway unless of course had i lived with my father but then i would have left on my own.happy but i love my mother with everything in me.love

earthytaurus76's photo
Sat 08/22/09 12:33 AM
hyper venalate.

xCoyoteGirlx's photo
Sat 08/22/09 12:46 AM

hyper venalate.


Why?

artman48's photo
Sat 08/22/09 12:55 AM
Houses---been there done that---retired and live in a 5th wheel---rents 150 a month where i park etc---sounds like they have a good deal and maybe a plan??? I dont like giving money to fat "as-" bankers---did it for years

Katzenschnauzer's photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:11 AM
One time I saw an older couple and their dog sitting on the curb outside a doughnut shop. I felt so sorry for the dog. I went to the store 2 doors away and got some dog food and dog bisquits. I ran back and presented this stuff to the couple. They thanked me and we chatted a bit then they got up and got into a motorhome fit for a rock star! It just never dawned on me...so you never know what's going on.

xCoyoteGirlx's photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:26 AM
Edited by xCoyoteGirlx on Sat 08/22/09 01:26 AM
Did you people just by pass the whole part where i said i KNOW the family?

xCoyoteGirlx's photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:27 AM

Houses---been there done that---retired and live in a 5th wheel---rents 150 a month where i park etc---sounds like they have a good deal and maybe a plan??? I dont like giving money to fat "as-" bankers---did it for years


this thing is smaller than my bedroom.

PacificStar48's photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:33 AM
Yea I saw that but what you don't seem to be catching onto is that calling CPS is going to do little but upset this family and maybe make them over react to an intrusion into what could be a lot worse situation. The harm your inexperience could do is much more brutal than you can understand at your age.

artman48's photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:37 AM


Houses---been there done that---retired and live in a 5th wheel---rents 150 a month where i park etc---sounds like they have a good deal and maybe a plan??? I dont like giving money to fat "as-" bankers---did it for years


this thing is smaller than my bedroom.


ask them if they would like to live with you untill they figure out whats next--


no photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:42 AM


Houses---been there done that---retired and live in a 5th wheel---rents 150 a month where i park etc---sounds like they have a good deal and maybe a plan??? I dont like giving money to fat "as-" bankers---did it for years


this thing is smaller than my bedroom.


For some people living in caravans and campers is a way of life.
That you don't like it doesn't make it bad.
Here in Ireland are many that live that way, and their children are generally more healthy than those who live in houses or flats because they spend a hell of a lot more time outside instead of watching TV or playing computer games.
As long as the children are healthy, fed and not abused you should leave well enough alone.

xCoyoteGirlx's photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:49 AM
i wasnt planning on calling childrens services of any kind. i just wanted ideas on how to help them stay warmer and things like that. i wouldnt wish separation of child and parents on anyone. unless the were being abused like some of you have suggested. i wouldnt have wanted it to have happened to me. unless of course had i lived with my father but then i would have left on my own. but i love my mother with everything in me.

xCoyoteGirlx's photo
Sat 08/22/09 01:51 AM

Sticking your nose up someones azz is one thing, sticking your entire head up there is yet another.

When I was a child.. a friends house burned down, no Insurance, they lost everything.
So they lived in the chicken coop for many years after that,
The kids were always clean and clearly well fed and most of all, they were happy.
Hard times make us much stronger!!!

Renting is a hell of a lot of money down the toilet, gone forever and nothing to show for it.
at least living in a camper.. overhead is really low (so to speak) much easier to pay off bills and save money.

If people worried as much about themselves as they do about others, There would be a lot less screwed up people around.\

You are only 18, you haven't had to really live your own life yet,
You have no idea what is waiting for you in the future, but will soon find out.

come back in 20 years, then give us your opinion.

Seriously not meant to be condescending, Just being real.
and I just don't do sugar coating.



you are right i am only 18 but some 18 yr olds know a lot more than you think. i just might be one. you never know.

PacificStar48's photo
Sat 08/22/09 02:01 AM
Depending what condition their camper is in and where it is at going to Habitat for Humanity for Humanity Restore you could probably find insulateing materials. Skirting material will help prevent heat loss. The best thing to maintain body heat is a fleece or knit cap.

xCoyoteGirlx's photo
Sat 08/22/09 02:04 AM

Depending what condition their camper is in and where it is at going to Habitat for Humanity for Humanity Restore you could probably find insulateing materials. Skirting material will help prevent heat loss. The best thing to maintain body heat is a fleece or knit cap.

thank you. you have been the most helpful yet.

Joseph420420's photo
Sat 08/22/09 02:06 AM

I know this family that has two small children (5yrs and 1yr) who are living in a really old tag-a-long camper and they have the money to do better but they arent. i dont know what to do. what would you do?
mind my own business lol