Topic: The sins of religions
TheLonelyWalker's photo
Wed 05/23/07 08:40 PM
The first and biggest sin of religions is to kill in the name of God.

Then say that an individual is going to hell because he or she does not
belong to that religion. The only one who can decide that is God. If
they judge people (who is going to hell) they are playing God. That is
a sin.

I remember when i was a teenager and i volunteered in my parish we went
to the misery belts of my city taking food and new cloths to poor
people, and they told us they could not take it because their preacher
(pastor) told them not to take anything from catholics. That is a sin
from those "preachers" because their PRIDE made this poor people not
take a help that they were desperately needing at that moment.

During lent the catholics (me included) don't suppose to eat beef on
fridays, but when you are extremely poor ( as the majority of the
population in my country), and by a blessing of God you could get some
beef that friday (and you don't have a frige to keep it for next day)
you deprive your family of beef because the priest tells you that if you
eat beef you are sinner. That is also a sin because the church is making
a poor family lack of something that hardly ever is able to get.

Basically every extreme that is justify by religion is a sin.

TheLonelyWalker

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 05/23/07 08:58 PM
There are religions that sin on a constant. I will not name them, but
they are ruining it for those that had a chance to know, but now are
unwittingly turned away from the truths.

Kat

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 05/23/07 09:03 PM
Kat they will find it for the truth of God allways seeks the light.

It will all become known in time.

no photo
Wed 05/23/07 09:07 PM
in this life or the next they will have a chance to except the truth.
Because god is a loving god. He wouldnt just give up on anybody!

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 05/23/07 09:15 PM
Thank you AB. There was comfort in that post.
Kat

no photo
Wed 05/23/07 09:26 PM
I don't understand that , why would Priests tell them not accept
something, regardless what faith it comes from, help is help....this
puzzles and disturbs me deeply...

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Wed 05/23/07 09:34 PM
me too

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 05/23/07 11:05 PM
It is a pagan custom. Yahshua quoted "David went into the temple and
ate the showbread that was not lawful for him to eat yet he did not sin"
Why because under Yahweh's mercy since the beginning to live is better
than to die. That is what Yahshua brought Life. Miles

Differentkindofwench's photo
Wed 05/23/07 11:10 PM
Miles, what did I miss - what's a pagan custom?????????

no photo
Wed 05/23/07 11:14 PM
Thank you Miguel for this thread.
I do agree with what you are saying, but sometimes I think,
if there were not people overzealous, it wouldn't be half as bad.
I live in a Catholic Country, I go to church on occasion, like funerals
etc. Every priest I have been talking to has welcomed me with open arms,
no questions asked, no conditions, no demands.
It were the people around me that bothered me much more, some of them
not talking to me because I have "no faith"

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 05/23/07 11:34 PM
You can find all kinds of articles and in regular encyclopedias about
lents origins.. Hopes this helps Miles The Pagan History of Lent
The word lent comes from the Anglo-Saxon word lencten which means
spring, which was derived from the Anglo-Saxon word lenctentid
(pronounced LENG-ten-teed), which means the time of lengthening and
flowering. The entire spring season was called Lenctentid. The ancient
Anglo-Saxons (and other pagans) celebrated the return of spring with
rioteous fertility festivals commemorating their goddess of fertility
and of springtime, Eastre. In fact, the word Easter is derived from the
Scandinavian Ostara and the Teutonic Ostern or Eastre, both pagan
goddesses. The complete month of April was called Eostur-monath with the
entire month was dedicated to Eostre. The pagan religion taught that
Eostre was one responsible for changing a bird into a rabbit, this then
is how the rabbit became an Easter symbol. Rabbits symbolize the
fertility of springtime. It should be noted that the rabbit's capacity
of abundant production of young is especially great at this time of
year. I should also tell you that most ancient races, including the
Anglo-Saxons, included spring festivals to celebrate the rebirth life,
using the Egg was a symbol of fertility, life and re-birth. This is old
Latin proverb catches this idea -- Omne vivum ex ovo. This means "all
life comes from an egg".

One final note, the Lenten season’s length has varied throughout
history, however 40 days, not including Sunday, were finally settled
upon and established by Roman Catholic Canon Law said to commemorate the
40 days Jesus Christ was tempted by Satan in the wilderness.

So, how did such pagan things as Lent and Easter (I am not referring to
the blessed Resurrection of Jesus Christ) come into the church?
Alexander Hislop gives us the answer -- "To conciliate the Pagans to
nominal Christianity, Rome, pursuing its usual policy, took measures to
get the Christian and Pagan festivals amalgamated, and, by a complicated
but skillful adjustment of the calendar, it was found no difficult
matter, in general, to get Paganism and Christianity—now far sunk in
idolatry—in this as in so many other things, to shake hands" (The Two
Babylons).

Differentkindofwench's photo
Wed 05/23/07 11:46 PM
I'm checkin somethin Miles wheels are spinnin, thanks for clarifying
what you were talking about.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 05/23/07 11:47 PM
YW

Differentkindofwench's photo
Wed 05/23/07 11:55 PM
Nope, all I'm finding is Roman Catholic on this one. Why would a pagan
do penance they have a much more zip/zap relationship with their deitys.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 05/24/07 12:15 AM
here is some more from Answers.com
http://www.answers.com/topic/maslenitsa

Related Topics
Folklore
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Maslenitsa
Derived from the word maslo, or "butter/oil," Maslenitsa was a pagan
mythological being personifying death, gloom, and winter as well as a
week-long festival that divided winter and spring seasons. The pagan
festival was synchronized with Lent and is equivalent to the western
European Shrovetide and carnival. Maslenitsa survived among all Eastern
Slavs, particularly Russians, who began celebrating it on a Sunday a
week prior to Lent, the final day when meat was permitted in the diet
according to Church practices. After the last meat meal, for the
remainder of the week people consumed milk products and fish, but most
commonly butter-covered bliny, or pancakes. The festival ended on the
following Sunday, the day before Lent, and is known as the day of
dispatching Maslenitsa or Proshcheny Voskresenie ("Forgiveness Sunday"),
as people who had wronged others (alive or deceased) begged for
absolution. This day was rounded off with the ritual destruction and
burial of Maslenitsa, commonly represented in the form of a female
effigy made of straw and dressed in woman's garb, in a bonfire, drowning
in a river, or tearing apart. A wooden wheel, symbolizing the sun-disk,
was also often burned alongside the effigy, leading to the idea that
this festival was celebrated in connection with the spring equinox
(usually on March 22) in pre-Christian times.

The annihilation of Maslenitsa symbolized the passing of the winter,
spring renewal, and preparation for the new agrarian cycle as well as
human and animal procreation. Family-marriage relations were tested
among newlywed couples, who were publicly discussed, required to openly
show affection, and put through trials testing their love and fidelity.
Eligible singles who failed to wed the previous year were publicly
ridiculed and punished. Virility of humans, plants, and animals were
conjured up by performing magical rites, fist-fighting, dancing, loud
singing, and sled-riding contests downhill or on troikas. The continued
celebration of this pagan festival cloaked in a Christian holiday into
modern times among the Eastern Slavs is a good example of dual faith
(dvoyeverie) or syncretism.

Bibliography

Ivantis, Linda J. (1989). Russian Folk Belief. Armonk, NY: M. E. Sharpe.


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Wikipedia Home > Library > Reference > Wikipedia Maslenitsa
Boris Kustodiev Maslenitsa tuesday Celebration of Maslenitsa in
Australia. Federation Square, Melbourne, February 5 2006, three weeks
before the start of the real Maslenitsa. The straw effigy on the photo
is the Kostroma, or Lady Maslenitsa.Maslenitsa or Pancake week (Russian:
Ма́сленица) is a Russian folk holiday that dates back to the pagan
times. It is celebrated during the last week before the Great Lent that
is the seventh week before the Easter. Maslenitsa is a direct analog of
the Roman Catholic Carnival. In 2007, Maslenitsa is celebrated from
February 12 to February 18.

Maslenitsa has a dual ancestry: pagan and Christian. On the pagan side,
Maslenitsa is a sun festival, celebrating the imminent end of the
winter.

On the Christian side, Maslenitsa is the last week before the onset of
the Great Lent. During the Maslenitsa week, meat is already forbidden to
the Orthodox Christians, making it a myasopustnaya nedelya (Russian:
мясопустная неделя, English "meat-empty week"). During Lent, meat, fish,
dairy products and eggs are forbidden. Furthermore, Lent also excludes
parties, secular music, dancing and other distractions from the
spiritual life. Thus, Maslenitsa represents the last chance to meet with
the worldly delights.

The essential element of Maslenitsa celebration are bliny, Russian
pancakes, popularly taken to symbolize the sun. Round and golden, they
are made from the rich foods still allowed by the Orthodox traditions:
butter, eggs, and milk.

Maslenitsa also includes masquerades, snowball fights, sledding,
swinging on swings and plenty of sleigh rides. In some regions, each day
of Maslenitsa had its traditional activity: one day for sleigh-riding,
another for the sons-in-law to visit their parents-in-law, another day
for visiting the godparents, etc. The mascot of the celebration is
usually a brightly dressed straw effigy of Lady Maslenitsa, formerly
known as Kostroma.

As the culmination of the celebration, on Sunday evening, Lady
Maslenitsa is stripped of her finery, and put to the flames of a
bonfire. Any remaining blintzes are also thrown on the fire. Lady
Maslenitsa's ashes are buried in the snow (to fertilize the crops), all
people ask for forgiveness from each other, and the Great Lent begins.
This last day of Maslenitsa is also called 'Forgiveness Sunday'. To
devout Orthodox Christians, it is the last day on which dairy products,
fish, wine and oil may be consumed.

During the Soviet times the Maslenitsa as all the other religious
holidays were suppressed. After the Perestroika the celebrations
resumed, although they are seen by some as artificial restoration of a
dead tradition.

Many countries with a significant number of Russian immigrants consider
maslenitsa as a suitable form to celebrate Russian culture, although the
celebrations are usually reduced to one day and may not coincide with
the exact date of the religious celebrations.


See also
The Rite of Spring
Martenitsa (in Bulgaria)
Fat Thursday (in Poland)
Pancake Day (in England)
Mărţişor (in Romania)

External links
Site devoted to Maslenitsa
Margaret McKibben Maslenitsa


This entry is from Wikipedia, the leading user-contributed

Ghostrecon's photo
Sat 05/26/07 11:42 PM
People have created many sins in the name of Religion's.

I think we created God in the image of our selves. We (so called) sin.
so there fore God sins too.