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Topic: Jesue was neither ...
AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 07/29/09 09:05 PM
A scammer...

NOR

Was he god.

He was a prophet.

called by some the annointed one... In fulfilment of prophesy.

His advent can not be denied by history. His manifestation is so much greater than that book which has been claimed by constantine.

But then mankind has a tendency to miss events of import...

The one know as the Christ told us he would send a comforter yet most of us missed That one when he arrived...

More than likley because we tend to look for what WE pre-determine that thing to be... instead of by faith letting the event be god-determined.

LeAiTàeRiSpEtTo20's photo
Wed 07/29/09 09:07 PM

A scammer...

NOR

Was he god.

He was a prophet.

called by some the annointed one... In fulfilment of prophesy.

His advent can not be denied by history. His manifestation is so much greater than that book which has been claimed by constantine.

But then mankind has a tendency to miss events of import...

The one know as the Christ told us he would send a comforter yet most of us missed That one when he arrived...

More than likley because we tend to look for what WE pre-determine that thing to be... instead of by faith letting the event be god-determined.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhuh

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Wed 07/29/09 09:21 PM
who is Jesue???

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Wed 07/29/09 09:25 PM
He surely is the most talked about person in the world!drinker

Simply amazing:smile:

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 07/29/09 09:27 PM

who is Jesue???

Please forgive my fingers... They sometimes have a life of their own.

I usually don't go back and edit my pom-feys.bigsmile

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Wed 07/29/09 09:30 PM

He surely is the most talked about person in the world!drinker

Simply amazing:smile:

Aye...

I have no doubt he was a prophet. His message survived even after layers of ritual and deceit which fooled the very elect of his followers.


AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 07/29/09 09:30 PM

He surely is the most talked about person in the world!drinker

Simply amazing:smile:

Aye...

I have no doubt he was a prophet. His message survived even after layers of ritual and deceit which fooled the very elect of his followers.


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Wed 07/29/09 09:36 PM



He was just a nut raising hell on his soapbox!

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Wed 07/29/09 10:10 PM
if indeed, this Jesus lives on from the grave, and intends to judge all mankind for it's personal deed's, than this same one must prove in all fairness and justness, how each one is guilty, and if each one be deemed as guilty, than each must be held to a bar, and if each one must have a bar to be reckoned against, than this bar must be well documented, and given in plain site, with only one interpretation possible, since human live's supposedly "weigh" on the premise that such be determined by this "BAR of perfection"...

in truth, there is no bar of perfection, so none can be accessed agsinst mankind, as if there is any sure, published, non diputed, bar of perfection, it must be FIRST, agreed upon by ALL, without doubt, per the text itself, and so if such be true, than the only measure of any right or wrong, that can be firmly established, with all commom agreement and reference, from the insight of human behaviour, can be what ALL as agree, with any words or deeds, will effect so create, if it be againt the good will, and free will, of other's...

humanity has long left any true sane logic, of simply WHY it should believe, or do, what is claimed to be of good, when what is declared to be creating good, is simply do gooding, self saving motive's, run amock, creating only sure and gauranteed havoc and lawlessness...

if this same jesus, that say "love thy enemy", is deemed to be anything more than simply a human man with good insight, than there is worshipping a image of god, with no sight that such simply entices human man to love a figment of imagination, instead of it's own fellow man...

if jesus did exist, and wished to be worshipped as a "ONLY GOD", than his own words would have reflected such, when indeed, the true reality, as written, was he spoke "ALL YE ARE AS GODS", which totally contradicts what human pride and arrogance, for ulterior selfish motives, has defined the life and words of jesus to be for or against...

to love "jesus", as greater than "other" neighbors, is to contradict the very same words spoken by the same man, claimed to be the only "son of god", when text itself declare ALL TO BE SON'S AND DAUGHTER'S, regardless of ACTIONS...

as indeed, it is also written, in the same text worshipped and halied as king of trith and live's, that "what is sin for one is not sin for another", so indeed, no defintion for "sin", can ever, without defying text itself, BE DECLARED, and if no "defintion of "sin", can be layed down, than no BAR FOR WHAT IS SIN, so the rest is sheer conjecture by personal opinion, which indeed, text declare itself, that it be of "no personal interpretation", so tezt to be proven true, cannot leave all logic, or it is false...

the same man called jesus, was claimed to say, "what ye have done unto the baddest ******* loser in the planet, is what ye have done unto me"...

so, what the hell with all the "jesus" proclamation's of purtorted truth...

simply words and images based on conjecture and opinion, and most imagination of what self would think IF itself were some authority or, which is a god, and no such can exist, without again breaking the very one and same words spoken in written in text itself...

to do such, is to denounce the very words called and deemed as truth, from the same book they were once heard from...

it is sheer delusion run amock, if not all human's are seen as equal, and then none as "more poweful", than this same "jesus", as if he is deemed as god alone, than he must as well, be deemed to have all power over the entire universe, and if such is true, than all things that happen are allowed, and so as such, than as created by this same one, and if such is true, than who or what could be deemed as guilty, or as ignorant, for not believing in some name of some perspon, to be as the decider, and so held as accountable itself, for all the human words or actions committed...

the bottom line can only be, the intelligence from the same logic, is the same thing "jesus" spoke about, and not beleiving in delusion and illusion of perception's, called as true reality...

the only reality is human words and action's create something, in the one that see and hear, and there be no neutral or none response possible, within the human thinking, for anything that exist...

jesus most and only said, in all essence, each and all things spoken or acted out effect the next creation of reality, for the person that is met...

that is nothing more than all scientific proof say's as well...

to make it anything more, is indeed simply human "wishes" as true...

no edit...

sorry for the ramble...

peace

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Wed 07/29/09 10:13 PM
Nice to see you again my brother Davidben1. Your wisdom is always welcomedflowerforyou drinker

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Wed 07/29/09 10:42 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 07/29/09 10:48 PM

Nice to see you again my brother Davidben1. Your wisdom is always welcomedflowerforyou drinker


if you find it within, to call me as a "brother", than i deem it an honor and privelage, to be likened and reckoned as a friend, by one with the character and integrity and goodwill, we all know as "smiles"...

if any man deem his own words as wise, he is a fool full of folly, beckoned by the sheer enticement of vanity of agreement, by the same as himself alone, but, if any man deem the hearer alone, of all words, as the judge and decider of wisdom, he has learned the true path unto all wisdom...

all peace smiles...


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Thu 07/30/09 05:39 AM

who is Jesue???


laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Thu 07/30/09 11:41 AM
Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright, oh yeah
Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright

I dont care what they may say
I dont care what they may do
I dont care what they may say
Jesus is just alright, oh yeah
Jesus is just alright

Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright, oh yeah
Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright

I dont care what they may know
I dont care where they may go
I dont care what they may know
Jesus is just alright, oh yeah

Jesus, hes my friend; jesus, hes my friend
He took me by the hand; led me far from this land
Jesus, hes my friend

Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright, oh yeah
Jesus is just alright with me, jesus is just alright

I dont care what they may say, I dont care what they may do
I dont care what they may say, jesus is just alright, oh yeah

Dodododo do do dododododod do do

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Thu 08/06/09 02:29 AM




He was just a nut raising hell on his soapbox!


That's not true. Otherwise, he would have condoned rising up against the Roman and Jewish governments. Instead He preached love and prayer. If you read the Bible it will tell you that God places kings and leaders in power, and God is the One who takes them out of power as well.

Jesus was and still is God in human form. He WAS because He came to obey the Father's will and fulfill the law in love. He IS because He has risen and is alive forevermore. He is fully God, yet fully man. It's a mystery to our human mind, because we are so limited. Nevertheless, it's the truth.

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Thu 08/06/09 08:30 AM
what would i know?

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Thu 08/06/09 10:24 AM





He was just a nut raising hell on his soapbox!


That's not true. Otherwise, he would have condoned rising up against the Roman and Jewish governments. Instead He preached love and prayer. If you read the Bible it will tell you that God places kings and leaders in power, and God is the One who takes them out of power as well.

Jesus was and still is God in human form. He WAS because He came to obey the Father's will and fulfill the law in love. He IS because He has risen and is alive forevermore. He is fully God, yet fully man. It's a mystery to our human mind, because we are so limited. Nevertheless, it's the truth.


Hey! I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I've been trying to unload for a while now. I can let you have it real cheap....

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Thu 08/06/09 03:14 PM






He was just a nut raising hell on his soapbox!


That's not true. Otherwise, he would have condoned rising up against the Roman and Jewish governments. Instead He preached love and prayer. If you read the Bible it will tell you that God places kings and leaders in power, and God is the One who takes them out of power as well.

Jesus was and still is God in human form. He WAS because He came to obey the Father's will and fulfill the law in love. He IS because He has risen and is alive forevermore. He is fully God, yet fully man. It's a mystery to our human mind, because we are so limited. Nevertheless, it's the truth.


Hey! I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I've been trying to unload for a while now. I can let you have it real cheap....


So, are you here for the truth, or to waste time arguing?

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Thu 08/06/09 03:23 PM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Thu 08/06/09 03:23 PM







He was just a nut raising hell on his soapbox!


That's not true. Otherwise, he would have condoned rising up against the Roman and Jewish governments. Instead He preached love and prayer. If you read the Bible it will tell you that God places kings and leaders in power, and God is the One who takes them out of power as well.

Jesus was and still is God in human form. He WAS because He came to obey the Father's will and fulfill the law in love. He IS because He has risen and is alive forevermore. He is fully God, yet fully man. It's a mystery to our human mind, because we are so limited. Nevertheless, it's the truth.


Hey! I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I've been trying to unload for a while now. I can let you have it real cheap....


So, are you here for the truth, or to waste time arguing?


which truth? Yours, mine, his, hers....the guy down the street...
The beautiful thing is we all get to live our own truths.. :heart:

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 08/06/09 05:00 PM








He was just a nut raising hell on his soapbox!


That's not true. Otherwise, he would have condoned rising up against the Roman and Jewish governments. Instead He preached love and prayer. If you read the Bible it will tell you that God places kings and leaders in power, and God is the One who takes them out of power as well.

Jesus was and still is God in human form. He WAS because He came to obey the Father's will and fulfill the law in love. He IS because He has risen and is alive forevermore. He is fully God, yet fully man. It's a mystery to our human mind, because we are so limited. Nevertheless, it's the truth.


Hey! I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I've been trying to unload for a while now. I can let you have it real cheap....


So, are you here for the truth, or to waste time arguing?


which truth? Yours, mine, his, hers....the guy down the street...
The beautiful thing is we all get to live our own truths.. :heart:

drinker

Truth is a relative thing.

ClayFace2009's photo
Thu 08/06/09 05:06 PM









He was just a nut raising hell on his soapbox!


That's not true. Otherwise, he would have condoned rising up against the Roman and Jewish governments. Instead He preached love and prayer. If you read the Bible it will tell you that God places kings and leaders in power, and God is the One who takes them out of power as well.

Jesus was and still is God in human form. He WAS because He came to obey the Father's will and fulfill the law in love. He IS because He has risen and is alive forevermore. He is fully God, yet fully man. It's a mystery to our human mind, because we are so limited. Nevertheless, it's the truth.


Hey! I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I've been trying to unload for a while now. I can let you have it real cheap....


So, are you here for the truth, or to waste time arguing?


which truth? Yours, mine, his, hers....the guy down the street...
The beautiful thing is we all get to live our own truths.. :heart:

drinker

Truth is a relative thing.

Yes, and the Truth is a relative of mine happy

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