yes he raised the TAX on a product all classes use

thus he raised the tax on those making less than 250k

a blatant breaking of his promise

so if he just raised the ""price"" of federal benifits 5% on all classes that would not be breaking his promise

if the govt charges something it is a tax not a price increase

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Candidate Obama promised those in the middle class that they wouldn't see an increase in the taxes they pay to the federal government.



the Manchester, N.H., Union Leader reported him saying in September 2008. Well, as Mona Lisa Vito said in My Cousin Vinny , "that plan's moot."

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/peter-roff/2009/06/29/obama-considers-middle-class-tax-hikes-for-healthcare-cap-and-trade.html

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so disagree all you want he said no increase of any kind of tax and he increased a tax on things used by those he said he would not increase ANY KIND OF TAX on thus he lied

I disagree.

you can if you wish

but that does not change the fact of the matter

what does this have to do with beer

that is another tax increase that will be piled on those under 250k




not sure how the thread was transformed

but it does not change the fact of the matter

that is the post where things began changing

Beer....is there nothing it can't do?

you're such a tattle tale

thought this thread was about the diplomatic way one can drink beer - duped yet again

well maybe we should have a beer and talk about it

lets get at it

Wait, wait wait! If theres a thread about beer, and Fran is in it....THAN WHERE IS YELLOWROSE!?

and people still believe one man and one administration actually run this country...
I think they should sit down and have a beer over it. They both need to swallow their pride and apologize for their part. If people can learn to do that the world would be a better place.

I apologize for all the times I f***ed up!

hmmm where is she indeed???

ladylid - I'd apologize for things I haven't done if it meant a refill

remember when as a child our parents used to make us apologize, shake hands and then go play - same should happen here...

if he would have vetoed the bill and congress overrode his veto

then he would be in the clear

but that is not what happened is it????




that was an actual post related to the tile

my bad to many beers maybe yeah thats it

apologize accepted.
My parents made us sit across from each other until we were ready to apologize and we finally would cause we were bored, then go outside and fight more.

was not apologizing but thanks for accepting it - now where's my refill

We'd do the same as kids - always played nice in front of my mom but once we were out of her eye sight - it was on.

refill coming right up...
yea, play nice in the public eye, and dirty deeds behind our backs..politicians.

are you saying it's our parents fault??? (just kidding)