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Have you noticed... Our Government has gotton so big... We can't afford it anymore. The only way it can survive at this point is to squeeze us... Yet if it squeezs to much harder... We will abolish it once again. Because no matter which side of the right/left coin you stand... You will get squeezed equally. Amen. Its gotten so big, it doesn't realize its too big. Its kinda like an obese kid, the kid's mom keeps saying he/she is just big boned. Well government isn't big boned, its catastrophically morbidly obese, and we keep feeding it. Obama promised change, and gave us nothing but the same. |
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I am not much for politics however, reading this sparked an interest. And well this maybe off topic however, how may of you think that the economy is actually turning around? We just keep losing money and getting further into debt. Most of us barely keep up with our bills. Single americans struggle to pay for healthcare and bills and food. If we have to go to the doctor and we dont have insurance then we either pay up or go on living with the pain or illness. Or we end up in the er with a bill that we can pay and we end up with terrible credit and cant get the loans for cars or houses due to our poor credit. Its am endless vicious cycle. Taxing sodas and cigarettes might encourage us to put them down. They tend to be more of a leading cause to our health problems. Obesity, lung cancer, heart disease, etc. An average american who drinks soda at least 3 times a day are drinking the caloric intake for half a day of nutrition. And people who smoke at least a pack a day take several years off their lives. So i mean when you think about it is Obama really hindering the poor by his taxes? As silly as it may seem, there's a luxury tax on yachts, high end luxury cars, lear jets, but the rich will fork over whatever they can to have these luxuries. Same with the poor. So if they tax cigarettes and soda, it'll make people put them down? What if they start taxing food higher and taxing water outta the tap? Do we put those down too? So what's next? Taxing air? Oh wait, that's what the carbon tax is gonna be! So lets see, we have to put down smokes, soda, food, water, and air, ummm, do you see the problem now? The point was healthcare. The point in fact is if americans were healthier healthcare would not be as big an issue. Americans are some of the most unhealthy people in the world. And we continue to live like we do, so healthcare cost rise constantly. Its a double edged sword. You need healthcare because you continue your bad habits yet you want to complain that your bad habit gets taxed to fund your healthcare? Where is the sense in that? Now dont get me wrong i am not talking about those who are healthy yet end up sick. Thats is beyond any control. Its the ones that complain about taxes on unnecessary items that are unhealthy for you. Because in the end you might end up needing that healthcare plan due to not being able to work for a company that offers private insurance. |
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WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama promised to fix health care and trim the federal budget deficit, all without raising taxes on anyone but the wealthiest Americans. It's a promise he's already broken and will likely have to break again. Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress have already increased tobacco taxes — which disproportionately hit the poor — to pay for extending health coverage to 4 million children in working low-income families.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/50255707.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- video of his broken promise "Not income tax, not your payroll tax, not capital gains taxes, not any kind of tax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8erePM8V5U |
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I am not much for politics however, reading this sparked an interest. And well this maybe off topic however, how may of you think that the economy is actually turning around? We just keep losing money and getting further into debt. Most of us barely keep up with our bills. Single americans struggle to pay for healthcare and bills and food. If we have to go to the doctor and we dont have insurance then we either pay up or go on living with the pain or illness. Or we end up in the er with a bill that we can pay and we end up with terrible credit and cant get the loans for cars or houses due to our poor credit. Its am endless vicious cycle. Taxing sodas and cigarettes might encourage us to put them down. They tend to be more of a leading cause to our health problems. Obesity, lung cancer, heart disease, etc. An average american who drinks soda at least 3 times a day are drinking the caloric intake for half a day of nutrition. And people who smoke at least a pack a day take several years off their lives. So i mean when you think about it is Obama really hindering the poor by his taxes? As silly as it may seem, there's a luxury tax on yachts, high end luxury cars, lear jets, but the rich will fork over whatever they can to have these luxuries. Same with the poor. So if they tax cigarettes and soda, it'll make people put them down? What if they start taxing food higher and taxing water outta the tap? Do we put those down too? So what's next? Taxing air? Oh wait, that's what the carbon tax is gonna be! So lets see, we have to put down smokes, soda, food, water, and air, ummm, do you see the problem now? The point was healthcare. The point in fact is if americans were healthier healthcare would not be as big an issue. Americans are some of the most unhealthy people in the world. And we continue to live like we do, so healthcare cost rise constantly. Its a double edged sword. You need healthcare because you continue your bad habits yet you want to complain that your bad habit gets taxed to fund your healthcare? Where is the sense in that? Now dont get me wrong i am not talking about those who are healthy yet end up sick. Thats is beyond any control. Its the ones that complain about taxes on unnecessary items that are unhealthy for you. Because in the end you might end up needing that healthcare plan due to not being able to work for a company that offers private insurance. The point is that you don't build a dam during the worst part of the flooding.(Congress should be ashamed of itself... Health Care should have been addressed A LONG TIME AGO... BEFORE THE STORM). You get the storm under control... You build a sand bag wall. (people in fargo did not build dams they built bullwarks...it worked... Then when the storm is over you you fix the problem right... with a firm foundation. |
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I am not much for politics however, reading this sparked an interest. And well this maybe off topic however, how may of you think that the economy is actually turning around? We just keep losing money and getting further into debt. Most of us barely keep up with our bills. Single americans struggle to pay for healthcare and bills and food. If we have to go to the doctor and we dont have insurance then we either pay up or go on living with the pain or illness. Or we end up in the er with a bill that we can pay and we end up with terrible credit and cant get the loans for cars or houses due to our poor credit. Its am endless vicious cycle. Taxing sodas and cigarettes might encourage us to put them down. They tend to be more of a leading cause to our health problems. Obesity, lung cancer, heart disease, etc. An average american who drinks soda at least 3 times a day are drinking the caloric intake for half a day of nutrition. And people who smoke at least a pack a day take several years off their lives. So i mean when you think about it is Obama really hindering the poor by his taxes? As silly as it may seem, there's a luxury tax on yachts, high end luxury cars, lear jets, but the rich will fork over whatever they can to have these luxuries. Same with the poor. So if they tax cigarettes and soda, it'll make people put them down? What if they start taxing food higher and taxing water outta the tap? Do we put those down too? So what's next? Taxing air? Oh wait, that's what the carbon tax is gonna be! So lets see, we have to put down smokes, soda, food, water, and air, ummm, do you see the problem now? The point was healthcare. The point in fact is if americans were healthier healthcare would not be as big an issue. Americans are some of the most unhealthy people in the world. And we continue to live like we do, so healthcare cost rise constantly. Its a double edged sword. You need healthcare because you continue your bad habits yet you want to complain that your bad habit gets taxed to fund your healthcare? Where is the sense in that? Now dont get me wrong i am not talking about those who are healthy yet end up sick. Thats is beyond any control. Its the ones that complain about taxes on unnecessary items that are unhealthy for you. Because in the end you might end up needing that healthcare plan due to not being able to work for a company that offers private insurance. So you're saying they should tax the hell outta meat and dairy? They're bad for you too, so you want to make everyone vegetarians? See you're just looking at the "bad habits" of now, think of the "bad habits" to come, if you keep thinking everything is gonna fine like you are. |
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And a side note, about working for a company that provides health insurance. McDonalds offers decent health plans, most companies offer some sort of plan. The problem is, most people would rather have extra money in their paychecks that pay for healthcare. I got a job specifically for the benefits, and most of the year I work 50-60 weeks between 2 jobs. If somebody wants health insurance, all they have to do is find it, its not like a company hides it benefits packages.
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It has begun...I've been saying it all along. Just wait, they'll find a way to tax all of us eventually. Not just smokers, or sugary soda, but water, and life.
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It has begun...I've been saying it all along. Just wait, they'll find a way to tax all of us eventually. Not just smokers, or sugary soda, but water, and life. The masses deserve it. We all allowed it to happen. We all became too selfish to life in America. One step forward, two steps back. |
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So I am told, but did you know that 18,000 people die in the USA every year as a result of not being able to afford health care? Scare tactic. How many die in a year cause of a doctor's mistakes? Not cutting your stat down but 18,000 people is a small percentage of our population for a one year sample. And amoung that 18,000 are some that could have used the existing system. and chose not to. |
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I am not much for politics however, reading this sparked an interest. And well this maybe off topic however, how may of you think that the economy is actually turning around? We just keep losing money and getting further into debt. Most of us barely keep up with our bills. Single americans struggle to pay for healthcare and bills and food. If we have to go to the doctor and we dont have insurance then we either pay up or go on living with the pain or illness. Or we end up in the er with a bill that we can pay and we end up with terrible credit and cant get the loans for cars or houses due to our poor credit. Its am endless vicious cycle. Taxing sodas and cigarettes might encourage us to put them down. They tend to be more of a leading cause to our health problems. Obesity, lung cancer, heart disease, etc. An average american who drinks soda at least 3 times a day are drinking the caloric intake for half a day of nutrition. And people who smoke at least a pack a day take several years off their lives. So i mean when you think about it is Obama really hindering the poor by his taxes? I would like to add something to this. It's about the elderly. Many have to give up food to pay for their meds. Some are getting their meds in Canada because they are cheaper there then they are here. |
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“Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.” the tax increase on tobacco was an outright violation of his campaign promise not to raise taxes on those making less than 250k so he is a liar is anyone really surprised I will always disagree with this. He didn't raise the taxes on the middle class. He raised the tax of a product that all classes use. |
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“Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.” the tax increase on tobacco was an outright violation of his campaign promise not to raise taxes on those making less than 250k so he is a liar is anyone really surprised I will always disagree with this. He didn't raise the taxes on the middle class. He raised the tax of a product that all classes use. 
So then if middle class people continue to buy the product why hasn't middle class net taxes been raised? |
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Today, President Obama announced that we need to impose a 25% tax on Barcaloungers and other “comfort chairs” which encourage people to laze about and thereby gain weight and thus become a burden on the state through increased healthcare costs.
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“Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.” the tax increase on tobacco was an outright violation of his campaign promise not to raise taxes on those making less than 250k so he is a liar is anyone really surprised I will always disagree with this. He didn't raise the taxes on the middle class. He raised the tax of a product that all classes use. video of his broken promise "Not income tax, not your payroll tax, not capital gains taxes, not any kind of tax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8erePM8V5U that is a clear contradiction of this video of him saying not any kind of tax it is a new tax and it effects all classes including the middle class (thus it is a kind of tax) |
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It has begun...I've been saying it all along. Just wait, they'll find a way to tax all of us eventually. Not just smokers, or sugary soda, but water, and life. They have taxed life allready. Marriege license. Birth certificates. and other such things are a tax. If its issued by the government and we must pay for it... It's a tax. |
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So I am told, but did you know that 18,000 people die in the USA every year as a result of not being able to afford health care? ...that will soon be replaced with the elderly and terminally ill who are too expensive to keep on the government plan... |
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So I am told, but did you know that 18,000 people die in the USA every year as a result of not being able to afford health care? ...that will soon be replaced with the elderly and terminally ill who are too expensive to keep on the government plan... The elderly are on Medicare and the terminally ill are probably on state aid. |
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