Yes, all cultures believed that one day a great hero would come who would overcome death. Jesus said he came to fullfill those beliefs

Jesus didn't start the christian religion..he said be like me, not worship me.
The idea is that most Christians don't know the history, and think Jesus is the one and only begotten son.
I'm not disputing Jesus's existence, only that the religion is based on myths.. repeated over and over again for eons. The entire bible is also based on astrology and paganism.. and Christians don't want to believe that, because that is the stuff of the devil

it is the basis of their religions...

The bible is full of prophecies and predictions of the coming of Christ.I don't know who is disputing this.As a matter of fact nearly all religions have predictions and prophecies about a Chosen savior.What your saying only validates the belief in the messiah Jesus is the Chosen One of ALL mankind,past,present and future. Your actually proving this point by referring to the Egyptians belief in the messiah they called Osiris. Jesus said he came to FULLFILL all mankinds beliefs not to change them Jesus fullfilled the Egyptians belief in Osiris

I'm not trying to validate or not validate ones belief in a messiah...
my point is only the entire concept is astrologically and pagan based.

The reason christianity spread like wildfire across the ancient world is because people already believed in a messiah. They just called him different names. They were already familiar with the concept

Again...
the point of the question . "is Christianity astrology and pagan based" is because most do not know that and find it hard to believe.

This is correct imo.

*Jesus was the saviour of mankind, god made man, the son of god equal with the father, so is Osiris Dionysus.

*Jesus is born of a mortal virgin who after her death ascends to heaven and is honoured as a divine being, so is Osiris Dionysus.

There 2 28 other pieces of evidence on this, but im takin it out of a book, and it would take me ages to do it all.

Christians tried to pass of the jesus story as a new revelation when it was actually an inferior imitation of Pagan myths.

You got it backwards. Jesus was the fullfillment in the belief in Osiris /Dionysus. His coming was foretold. People believed in a messiah,they just called him different names This is why christianity spread like wildfire across the ancient world. People ALREADY believed in a messiah Jesus said he came to fullfill this belief

Yes,all mankind wished for a savior who would overcome death

Organized religon is not corrupt...the people that run are...it become the job of those of the body of Christ to seek out those were are doing wrong correct them and if they do not comply to cast them out. If you would like to discuss this further it would be my pleasure to share this with anyone here on Forum as well as directly by mail. All please understand it is not my intention to force my views on anyone, but to share they truth and what I know.

I will pray for you that the Holly Spirt comes to asks you to do further investigation.

* The sun is the "Light of the World."
* The sun is "the image that shines on them" 2Cor 4:4.
* The sun "comes with the clouds, and every eye shall see him." Rev 1
* The sun is from "the beginning and the end"
* The sun is their Lord which comes as a "Thief in the Night"
* The Sun causes the end where "the elements will be dissolved with fire and the earth and everything done on it will be burned up." (2 Peter 3:10)
* The sun wears a crown of thorns or a halo.
* The sun "walks on water" when it rises or sets on a body of water
* The sun has "eyes that are like fire"
* The sun is "a consuming fire"
* The sun "brings fire down from heaven"
* The sun helps to make seeds grow
* The sun's "followers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the Zodiac, through which the sun passes.
* The sun is "crucified," when it passes through the spring and fall equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is resurrected.
* The long stem cross represented the staff of Apollo long before the time of Jesus
* Dec 25th is the winter solstice and birth of the sun.



Sun worship, astrology, pagan symbols = PAGAMISM
The rest is for another thread.


Thank you for your prayers, I will pray for you too.

"Christians tried to pass of the jesus story as a new revelation when it was actually an inferior imitation of Pagan myths."






No they didn't. They did just the opposite. They told people that their beliefs had been FULLFILLED. That is why the religion became so popular. The people already believed basically the same thing the christian missionaries only validated these beliefs by telling people how they were fullfilled. Im not sure how its inferior.It's superior when your ancient beliefs are fullfilled in the life of a real personThis is why christianity was so popular

Yes, Jesus coming was foretold He fullfilled these beliefs

Of course it didn't have a thing to do with the swords? Did it?

Accept or die!

Christianity did not 'spread like wild fire' till several hundred years after its advent. (up to that point christians were mostly a thorn for nations of the time - that and or lion food).

Then it spread as a conquerer... with swordsmen preceeding the priests.

I dont remember ever reading that Jesus had a sword.

From what I read, he would come into town then feed people, heal them, etc. After that he would teach them from the Old Testament. He would also help them understand the MEANING of the scriptures. Because the people of his day (just like us) tended to get caught up in the "letter of the law" and they would miss meaning behind those words.

People say things like: "so and so said or did that a thousand years before Jesus did" The problem with that line of thinking is that Jesus was also GOD and since GOD is, was and always will be; Jesus's actions (GOD's plan) was already known. Jesus knew what he was gonna do before there was even an earth or people.

We can find patterns in all kinds of things. Like say... 12 Apostles and 12 signs of the Zodiac.

Well there are also 12 eggs in a dozen. So? Are eggs pagan?

I think that most Pagans are good, intelligent people who only seek the truth. They hunger for righteousness and they despise evil.

There is nothing Pagan about the Bible or the good news of salvation.

Has Christianity been watered down by pagan and secular influences over the years? Oh you betcha!

Xmas =pagan Easter =pagan

But even with those obvious facts, I would say to anyone who would listen:

Dont throw the baby out with the bath water.

Early christians took some of the pagan rituals and holidays and incorporated them into the christian religion to attract the pagans to christianity....it was nothing more than a marketing ploy.