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Topic: This is starting up again.
Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/15/09 03:26 PM


Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail.

You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate.

Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!!


You still think democrats and republicans are fighting against eachother huh?

While i partially agree with you, you have to look at the fact that democrats and republicans agree on most major issues. Kinda gets you thinking...


Considering that most humans of right mind agree on major issues that is not surprising. The issue they are at odds with shows their intentions. Obama is president legitimately and to believe otherwise is really ludicrous. Someone would have already stopped him if he wasn't a citizen here long before the presidency.

supermike48's photo
Wed 07/15/09 03:50 PM
as a huge baseball fan. i watch an interview with Obama last night on mlb.he acted like one of us, not the men who runs the richest country in the world.i no bush would have turned his nose up to us. Obama took time out of his busy day to talk to normal people. for those who say he is not an American citizen. give it up. you lost the election.so stop whining.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 04:21 PM



Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail.

You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate.

Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!!


You still think democrats and republicans are fighting against eachother huh?

While i partially agree with you, you have to look at the fact that democrats and republicans agree on most major issues. Kinda gets you thinking...


Considering that most humans of right mind agree on major issues that is not surprising. The issue they are at odds with shows their intentions. Obama is president legitimately and to believe otherwise is really ludicrous. Someone would have already stopped him if he wasn't a citizen here long before the presidency.


Maybe, people have and are trying... Maybe some really powerful people want him to stay in office.

Remember Bush's second term election?

It is possible...

Winx's photo
Wed 07/15/09 04:22 PM

as a huge baseball fan. i watch an interview with Obama last night on mlb.he acted like one of us, not the men who runs the richest country in the world.i no bush would have turned his nose up to us. Obama took time out of his busy day to talk to normal people. for those who say he is not an American citizen. give it up. you lost the election.so stop whining.


That happened in my city last night.:banana:

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 04:24 PM

as a huge baseball fan. i watch an interview with Obama last night on mlb.he acted like one of us, not the men who runs the richest country in the world.i no bush would have turned his nose up to us. Obama took time out of his busy day to talk to normal people. for those who say he is not an American citizen. give it up. you lost the election.so stop whining.


Assumptions my friend. You make too many. You can still believe he is an american, but you can't attack those that are questioning without commiting a fallacy.

You also assume that it's republicans that are attacking him. Sometimes its true, sometimes it's an impartial party that just smells something fishy.

Do you really think republicans ruined the country and now democrats will save it?

We are beyond this primitive method of thinking. It's time we stop oversimplifying ourselves to death, and start looking at facts and figures.

adj4u's photo
Wed 07/15/09 04:53 PM


as a huge baseball fan. i watch an interview with Obama last night on mlb.he acted like one of us, not the men who runs the richest country in the world.i no bush would have turned his nose up to us. Obama took time out of his busy day to talk to normal people. for those who say he is not an American citizen. give it up. you lost the election.so stop whining.


Assumptions my friend. You make too many. You can still believe he is an american, but you can't attack those that are questioning without commiting a fallacy.

You also assume that it's republicans that are attacking him. Sometimes its true, sometimes it's an impartial party that just smells something fishy.

Do you really think republicans ruined the country and now democrats will save it?

We are beyond this primitive method of thinking. It's time we stop oversimplifying ourselves to death, and start looking at facts and figures.



be careful drivin

you will become like i am called

a paranoid over thinker

(just so you know i find it an honorable title)

after all who solves most issues if not the person concered about the issue and over thinks it

just a thought

but hey

what do i know

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 04:56 PM



as a huge baseball fan. i watch an interview with Obama last night on mlb.he acted like one of us, not the men who runs the richest country in the world.i no bush would have turned his nose up to us. Obama took time out of his busy day to talk to normal people. for those who say he is not an American citizen. give it up. you lost the election.so stop whining.


Assumptions my friend. You make too many. You can still believe he is an american, but you can't attack those that are questioning without commiting a fallacy.

You also assume that it's republicans that are attacking him. Sometimes its true, sometimes it's an impartial party that just smells something fishy.

Do you really think republicans ruined the country and now democrats will save it?

We are beyond this primitive method of thinking. It's time we stop oversimplifying ourselves to death, and start looking at facts and figures.



be careful drivin

you will become like i am called

a paranoid over thinker

(just so you know i find it an honorable title)

after all who solves most issues if not the person concered about the issue and over thinks it

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


And i would be honored to take that title along with you if it were given to me.

drinks

Dragoness's photo
Wed 07/15/09 04:56 PM




Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail.

You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate.

Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!!


You still think democrats and republicans are fighting against eachother huh?

While i partially agree with you, you have to look at the fact that democrats and republicans agree on most major issues. Kinda gets you thinking...


Considering that most humans of right mind agree on major issues that is not surprising. The issue they are at odds with shows their intentions. Obama is president legitimately and to believe otherwise is really ludicrous. Someone would have already stopped him if he wasn't a citizen here long before the presidency.


Maybe, people have and are trying... Maybe some really powerful people want him to stay in office.

Remember Bush's second term election?

It is possible...


Obama did not have a brother in office in the state to make sure he was elected.

It is still ludicrous. I researched it when I heard about it and it is a ludicrous propaganda that people want to continue for underlying reasons.

supermike48's photo
Wed 07/15/09 05:35 PM
bush won because he scared people to voting for him.so this bush logic, afghanistan hid bin laden, so he attacked Iraq, makes perfect sense, if your retard.

warmachine's photo
Wed 07/15/09 10:09 PM

sounds like nothing more then an excuse for getting out of going to afghanistan he should be COURT MARTIAL



When I was in BCT, my Drill's pounded into my head that we had the DUTY to disobey an unlawful order. If this soldier truly believes Mr.Obama is in fact not qualified, by his citizenship, then any order Mr.Obama is giving in the capacity as Commander in Chief is in fact an unlawful order.
Bring it to trial.

I'm past it, because the control of that seat of power has been usurped from the hands of the people currently and is in the hands of the aforementioned banking/corporate interests. Regardless of what piece of paper Obama put up, he's in there. No different than all the b.s. that put Bush the Lesser in office twice.

I wish Americans would get past all this retarded false tribalism called partisan politics, and start expecting the right things from those we put our faith in, or put them out the damn door.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/15/09 10:15 PM





Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail.

You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate.

Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!!


You still think democrats and republicans are fighting against eachother huh?

While i partially agree with you, you have to look at the fact that democrats and republicans agree on most major issues. Kinda gets you thinking...


Considering that most humans of right mind agree on major issues that is not surprising. The issue they are at odds with shows their intentions. Obama is president legitimately and to believe otherwise is really ludicrous. Someone would have already stopped him if he wasn't a citizen here long before the presidency.


Maybe, people have and are trying... Maybe some really powerful people want him to stay in office.

Remember Bush's second term election?

It is possible...


Obama did not have a brother in office in the state to make sure he was elected.

It is still ludicrous. I researched it when I heard about it and it is a ludicrous propaganda that people want to continue for underlying reasons.


Perhaps it has been proven, perhaps it hasn't. But we can't assume Obama wasn't put in his position by some powerful people.

warmachine's photo
Wed 07/15/09 10:26 PM






Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail.

You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate.

Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!!


You still think democrats and republicans are fighting against eachother huh?

While i partially agree with you, you have to look at the fact that democrats and republicans agree on most major issues. Kinda gets you thinking...


Considering that most humans of right mind agree on major issues that is not surprising. The issue they are at odds with shows their intentions. Obama is president legitimately and to believe otherwise is really ludicrous. Someone would have already stopped him if he wasn't a citizen here long before the presidency.


Maybe, people have and are trying... Maybe some really powerful people want him to stay in office.

Remember Bush's second term election?

It is possible...


Obama did not have a brother in office in the state to make sure he was elected.

It is still ludicrous. I researched it when I heard about it and it is a ludicrous propaganda that people want to continue for underlying reasons.


Perhaps it has been proven, perhaps it hasn't. But we can't assume Obama wasn't put in his position by some powerful people.


Didn't he do apprectice work under Kissinger? Isn't one of the men who has his ear Brzezinski?

If you go take a look at the lists of the banks that donated to Mr. Obama's campaign and take a look at the list of banks who have jumped in line for TARP money... guess what you'll see?

supermike48's photo
Wed 07/15/09 10:32 PM
you probably see the same as the oil companies making sure bush and cheney won.i might be the oil one but its awful funny that oil prices go way uo when two oil men are in the white house, i say hum.

warmachine's photo
Wed 07/15/09 10:38 PM
See that, right there, it's the same no matter what wing of the bird you look at.

If we just simply stopped with ninnying and focused on making sure that the Constitution was obeyed, it would be a much better place to live and Cable news would be stuck reporting on panda sex.

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