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Edited by
Unknow
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable.   That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations. I agree, if they can prove he is not justified in his claim. |
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this soldier sing up to join. he must live up to that, for anyone who says Obama not an American citizen. just more ways for repubbans can complain .you lost get over it. this soldier should be locked up I am not republican or democrate, I'm American. It is my right to seek the truth. The Constitution gives me that right. As a soldier we swear to protect this country "from all enemies, foreign or domestic.". If he is in fact lying, he can't be president. If he is not president, he can not lead the military as "Commander in Chief". That is law, allegence and fact. You wish to deny this soldier his rights on ANY level as a citizen? |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 07/15/09 10:14 AM
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable. That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations. I agree, if they can prove he is not justified in his claim. It has all the relevance in the world! It takes a trial, and because of his claim they would have to prove positively that BHO was born a US citizen. How can that NOT be relevent? Also, it is not desertion, it is failure to obey an order. |
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well for me i no i was not born in the USA so i could never be president. but for those who claim Obama was not born in the USA, just another way of whining .you lost the election you can whine all day long but in the end you still lost. stop coming up with excuses, for the soldier. must of us served in the arm forces.so He belongs in jail. or is it that he is just making up an excuse. i could just be chicken ****.
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Edited by
Unknow
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Wed 07/15/09 10:19 AM
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable. That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations. I agree, if they can prove he is not justified in his claim. It has all the relevance in the world! It takes a trial, and because of his claim they would have to prove positively that BHO was born a US citizen. How can that NOT be relevent? Also, it is not desertion, it is failure to obey an order. |
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable. That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations. I agree, if they can prove he is not justified in his claim. It has all the relevance in the world! It takes a trial, and because of his claim they would have to prove positively that BHO was born a US citizen. How can that NOT be relevent? Also, it is not desertion, it is failure to obey an order. That is the law, and his right. All I care about, rights, truth and fact. By the way.... failure to obey an order whether direct or indirect is subject to court martial and can include up to 10 years imprisonment I believe, depending on the nature of the degree and nature of the crime. |
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sounds like nothing more then an excuse for getting out of going to afghanistan he should be COURT MARTIAL
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable. That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations. I agree, if they can prove he is not justified in his claim. It has all the relevance in the world! It takes a trial, and because of his claim they would have to prove positively that BHO was born a US citizen. How can that NOT be relevent? Also, it is not desertion, it is failure to obey an order. That is the law, and his right. All I care about, rights, truth and fact. By the way.... failure to obey an order whether direct or indirect is subject to court martial and can include up to 10 years imprisonment I believe, depending on the nature of the degree and nature of the crime. |
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not sure if we are in a time of war, not saying we are not. just not sure.
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You are allowed to refuse an order that you believe to be unlawful.
This isn't the time or place for that debate. I understand his feelings, and maybe he thinks he is doing the right thing. Unfortunately, the outcome won't be worth the effort.. |
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this is one fight he will not win.
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable. That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations. I agree, if they can prove he is not justified in his claim. It has all the relevance in the world! It takes a trial, and because of his claim they would have to prove positively that BHO was born a US citizen. How can that NOT be relevent? Also, it is not desertion, it is failure to obey an order. That is the law, and his right. All I care about, rights, truth and fact. By the way.... failure to obey an order whether direct or indirect is subject to court martial and can include up to 10 years imprisonment I believe, depending on the nature of the degree and nature of the crime. We are not at war.... like Viet Nam it is simply an action. Congress must declare war and they have not. |
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thats what i through. i think i no usa history very well.
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 07/15/09 11:28 AM
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable. That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations, not quash the legal action by power of office. Where's the transparency? His birth certificate is Hawaii. It's been shown. End of story. I don't have my original, btw. I can only get a shortened copy. |
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"First with the soldier refusing to follow Obama's orders as Commander in Chief, until he produces a "legitimate" birth certificate..." Unbelievable. That is a little extreme, but an "original" b/c was never produced only a questionable copy. All other presidents have provided originals, I can produce an original. He is the president, leading our nation (and wanting to turn total power over to private bankers.... why?) so one would think he, more than anyone, should be above question, able to prove or disprove beyond doubt any allegations. I agree, if they can prove he is not justified in his claim. It has all the relevance in the world! It takes a trial, and because of his claim they would have to prove positively that BHO was born a US citizen. How can that NOT be relevent? Also, it is not desertion, it is failure to obey an order. That is the law, and his right. All I care about, rights, truth and fact. By the way.... failure to obey an order whether direct or indirect is subject to court martial and can include up to 10 years imprisonment I believe, depending on the nature of the degree and nature of the crime. We are not at war.... like Viet Nam it is simply an action. Congress must declare war and they have not. there has not been a declared war since ww2 they have all been actions or conflocts including nam and korea |
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this is one fight he will not win. I have to agree with you here. A no win with all the afluential people and groups covering up for BHO and their ability to pass false documents. |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Wed 07/15/09 02:52 PM
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this is one fight he will not win. I have to agree with you here. A no win with all the afluential people and groups covering up for BHO and their ability to pass false documents. |
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Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail.
You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate. Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!! |
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Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail. You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate. Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!! You still think democrats and republicans are fighting against eachother huh? While i partially agree with you, you have to look at the fact that democrats and republicans agree on most major issues. Kinda gets you thinking... |
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Obama already produced his birth certificate and it was valid. This whole mess is wasting people's time and possibly causing a good soldier to go to jail. You can bet that had there been any validity to the claim in the first place the republicans would have jumped on it and had him removed as a candidate. Come on people use the brain your god gave you!!!! 
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