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sara89's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:05 AM
Jesus Christ Superstar?
I was watching it on Hulu a bit ago and there were revies posted. One of the reviews stated

"fits in well with the current godlessness/satanism of today's obamanation culture, just as well as it did during a previous anti-Christian time (there have been many). We have weathered this storm often. I feel sadness for those of you who are led to darkness by pop-culturalists. Ground yourselves in the Lord lest you be fooled by egomaniacal demons."

Am I alone in wondering exactly how retelling the story of Jesus would be blasphemous whenever the Christian religion has been been twisting their own religion?
Isn't the word "Christianity" based on the name Christ? and wasnt the whole teaching and preaching of christ to show us that god can understand humanity because he was/is human?
I have read the bible, and in it, when i read the new testament, i find he teaches how to live a life filled with morals and compassion, how to see the simple joys in life and how to be a good person. He was an amazing example who taught us that in a society of war and fear there is a way to walk in the world that brings compassion. It shows that he felt emotion. Jesus got angry, cried, felt betrayed, felt abandoned, laughed and loved.
How is any of this blasphemous?

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:09 AM
Love that movie, one of my all time favs. I have a copy, know all the words to the songs. I was not aloud to see it when I was a kid, it caused quite a stir as you can imagine in the 70's. A bunch of hippies singing about Christ..... Holy pot smoking.spock

Winx's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:14 AM
Edited by Winx on Sun 07/12/09 12:17 AM
Yes, I've seen "Jesus Christ Superstar" on stage. I've seen the movies too. My mother played the music from it all of the time when I was a child. It came out around 1970. I know every word to it. lol
It's a very moving show.

I don't consider it to be blasphemous at all.

They even said, "Obamanation culture"? Too funny.
I didn't realize that people that voted for Obama weren't Christians.laugh





Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:14 AM
It's not blasphemous. They do twist their own religion, it's all a joke. the biggest deception in the history of the world.
Jesus never said "worship me" he said, "follow me, these things I do you also can do". We are capable of doing all he did, we have just been taught limitation since the day we were born.
Awesome movie.:wink:

sara89's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:15 AM
thats what i dont get. the whole point of chritianity is to "spread the word" to teach people about christ and his beliefs.
here a buntch of people take this and turn it into a catchy yet informative way of reaching people and giving a different and rather accurate view point of christ.
yet it makes people angry beause it doesnt conform to the norm.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:20 AM

thats what i dont get. the whole point of chritianity is to "spread the word" to teach people about christ and his beliefs.
here a buntch of people take this and turn it into a catchy yet informative way of reaching people and giving a different and rather accurate view point of christ.
yet it makes people angry beause it doesnt conform to the norm.
:smile: Yes, very bizarre people calling themselves christians nowadays.:smile: That is one of the main reasons I stopped going to church.:smile:

sara89's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:25 AM
exactly.

how can you defend your religion when you dont know what it is or what it stands for? how can you condemn others for celebrating their beliefs in their own ways when you yourself have not even taken the time to understand your faith?
its a perfect example that people rule with fear.

believe what i believe and you will go heaven. think of something different and go to hell.

im sorry, but if my immortal soul is going to be damned because i believe or dont believe, i am surely going to find out exactly what it is im selling into before i drink the koolaid

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:29 AM

exactly.

how can you defend your religion when you dont know what it is or what it stands for? how can you condemn others for celebrating their beliefs in their own ways when you yourself have not even taken the time to understand your faith?
its a perfect example that people rule with fear.

believe what i believe and you will go heaven. think of something different and go to hell.

im sorry, but if my immortal soul is going to be damned because i believe or dont believe, i am surely going to find out exactly what it is im selling into before i drink the koolaid
flowerforyouYou are rightflowerforyouAnd christians arn't even supposed to believe they go to "heaven" or "hell" when they dieflowerforyouThey are supposed to believe in "resurection"flowerforyouMost of the so called christians are actually fools.flowerforyou

sara89's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:33 AM
you are right mirror. in reality the bible says " for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and whoeever believes in him shall not perish and have everlasting life"

which means there is only life or death.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:36 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sun 07/12/09 12:36 AM

you are right mirror. in reality the bible says " for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and whoeever believes in him shall not perish and have everlasting life"

which means there is only life or death.
flowerforyouYes, and belief in fate,karma,and predestination are also pagan beliefs.flowerforyou But try to tell that to most of these christians and see how mad they getlaugh

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:37 AM
I had to just entirely dump the salvation theory and start over, and it was challenging, not easy to do when the people who love you are the ones teaching you such nonsense.brokenheart
I dumped religion so I could experience spirituality.

Religions main focus is to distract a person from have an actual spiritual experience with God Carl Jung

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:40 AM

I had to just entirely dump the salvation theory and start over, and it was challenging, not easy to do when the people who love you are the ones teaching you such nonsense.brokenheart
I dumped religion so I could experience spirituality.

Religions main focus is to distract a person from have an actual spiritual experience with God Carl Jung
flowers

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:42 AM

Yes, I've seen "Jesus Christ Superstar" on stage. I've seen the movies too. My mother played the music from it all of the time when I was a child. It came out around 1970. I know every word to it. lol
It's a very moving show.

I don't consider it to be blasphemous at all.

They even said, "Obamanation culture"? Too funny.
I didn't realize that people that voted for Obama weren't Christians.laugh






I have not heard of this Obamanation Culture. I guess that makes sense, well why "they" say such things... hummmmm
I'm sure some of the people who voted for him were christian, there are ALOT of christians in this country.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:53 AM
In Livitcus (sp) it also says it is an obamanation to eat shell fish.
And in Duteromy (sp)is says if your children mis - behave they are to be taken to their fathers house and killed....
I can't spell any of it any more cause I don't look at any of it any more. Obvious reasons.brokenheart
The ancient scripture were written for their time..and like anything else they are subject to interpretation and perception.
Cmon the entire anti-gay movement is based on one fricking line in the entire bible...brokenheart
It is an Obamnation(I love that) for a man to lie with another man.
Thats it...brokenheart
Nothing about women, so I guess it's ok to be a lesbian, whats sup with that.
People are hurt, beaten, discriminated against over one line, should we start beating people for eating crab???
We really need to start to re think some of this stuff.
Holy wheres the love..:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 07/12/09 06:28 AM

thats what i dont get. the whole point of chritianity is to "spread the word" to teach people about christ and his beliefs.
here a buntch of people take this and turn it into a catchy yet informative way of reaching people and giving a different and rather accurate view point of christ.
yet it makes people angry beause it doesnt conform to the norm.

I was under the impression that the point of being christian was to live as close to the ideal of the christ as possible... LIVE the word not SPREAD the word'?


Winx's photo
Sun 07/12/09 09:37 AM
Edited by Winx on Sun 07/12/09 09:40 AM


Yes, I've seen "Jesus Christ Superstar" on stage. I've seen the movies too. My mother played the music from it all of the time when I was a child. It came out around 1970. I know every word to it. lol
It's a very moving show.

I don't consider it to be blasphemous at all.

They even said, "Obamanation culture"? Too funny.
I didn't realize that people that voted for Obama weren't Christians.laugh






I have not heard of this Obamanation Culture. I guess that makes sense, well why "they" say such things... hummmmm
I'm sure some of the people who voted for him were christian, there are ALOT of christians in this country.


Almost everybody that I know is Christian. One person is agnostic. Almost all of them voted for Obama.




earthytaurus76's photo
Sun 07/12/09 11:13 AM
They are just mad because they lived in Jesus's times and saw it first hand. Nothing can compare.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 07/12/09 11:26 AM
laugh Try telling these people its not the "end of the world" and the rapture isnt in the bible and see how mad they getlaugh

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 07/12/09 12:29 PM

thats what i dont get. the whole point of chritianity is to "spread the word" to teach people about christ and his beliefs.


I think there's an issue here that needs to be addressed.

You seem to use the words "Jesus" and "Christ" as though they mean the same thing. But in reality they don't.

Jesus was a man who many believe was "The Christ". The "Christ" means the "messiah". Many also take "Christ" to mean the "Son of God".

I never refer to Jesus as "Christ" because I don't believe that Jesus was the Christ. In fact, I don't even believe there is any such thing as a "Christ", or messiah, or son of the God of Abraham.

The other thing that people do that is utterly false. Is refer to the Bible and say, "Jesus said this", or "Jesus said that".

Jesus never wrote a single word of the Bible. And even the gospels don't meantion anywhere where Jesus told anyone to write anything he said down for future generations. In fact, the Gospels are specifially written in a "hearsay" style by authors who claim to be remembering precisely what Jesus has actually said many decades before the gospels were even written.

So there's a huge belief factor in play here.

If a person believe that Jesus was "The Christ" (the son of the God of Abraham), then they could also want to believe that God somehow inspired the writers of the New Testament to write down the teachings of Jesus decades after Jesus died. Thus the gosepls woudl be the divinely inspired word of God.

However, if a person believes that Jesus was a mortal man who simply taught the same things as Buddha (which he basically did). Then we should view the actaul gospels with a very suspicious eye indeed. Some stuff may be what Jesus said, otehr stuff may have been entirely added as demagogurey by the writers, or simply their own supersitious beliefs.

I personally beleive that Jesus had traveled to the far east during his 'missing years' in the Bible from the time he was 12 until he returned at about the age of 30. That would have given him 15 years to walk (or ride his ***) to India and learn the ways of the Buddha. In fact, theoretically he could have learned Buddha's philosophy even by staying at his homeland.

In any case, then he returns, and basically denounces the teachings of the God of Abraham (which he clearly did even according to the gospels). This was in fact the very reason he was crucified for blaspheme.

The God of Abraham had talk people to judge others and stone sinners to death. After all, you can't very well judge sinners to death if you don't first judge them to be sinners.

Jesus taught not to judge others and he clearly was not in favor of stoning sinners to death either. This is direct blaspheme against the teachings of the God of Abraham.

The God of Abraham taught people to seek revenge and to seek vengence as in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

But Jesus renounced that, and taught people to forgive and forget and to turn the other cheek!

The teachings of Jesus were not new, Buddha had been teaching these very same moral teachings.

Also the Buddha believe that all is god, (pantheism), therefore if Jesus also beleived this it would not have been wrong of him to say that he and the father are one. Or that before Abraham was, I am.

These are things we'd expect a pantheist to say. This is the belief of pantheism (or Buddhism at that time).

So Jesus basically denounced the teachings of the Old Testament (the false mythical Zeus-like God of Abraham), and tried to teach completely NEW moral values!

He was crucified for his 'blaspheme' of the old teachings!

Many rumors emerged as to who this man "Jesus" truly was.

Some saw him as a man who denounced the old teachings. Other's saw him as claiming to be the son of the God of Abraham (the Christ).

Arguments insued for many decades. Finally someone got pissed, and wrote down there version of Jesus as being "The Christ". They called their writtings the "Holy Scriptures" and decreed that anyone who disagrees with the "Holy Scriptures" shall be beheaded.

Christianity was born. And Jesus was used as an excuse to murder anyone who doesn't agree with the "Holy Scriptures"

I would never refer to Jesus as "The Christ". It is my firm conviction that if the man existed at all he was most likely a Buddhist and was definitely not the son of the God of Abraham whose teachings he didn't even agree with! (even according to the very gospels!)

I don't buy everything the gospels say about Jesus. I think they used him as a dead marionette doll to make a case for their version of the rumors of this mortal man who denounced the teachings of the Old Testament or Torah.

flowerforyou





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Sun 07/12/09 01:14 PM
The verbage Jesus Christ is Jesus the Christ for the Christians, it's their term, they can have it. They get pretty upset if you question ANYTHING....
I say they can keep satan too, since he is one of their mind f**k
creations, I don't want him, it.pitchfork

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