the Torah reference 550 prohetic prophecies concerning the one to come,
Christ fullfilled them all, except for 5 that will be fullfilled at a
future time, the odds of that is 1560 t o1 odds, and once again on the
contrary, jewdish, christianity and islam, DO NOT worship the SAME good,
islam worship one of the 7 desert Spirits that the prohet mohammad
claimed he came in contact with, the spirits are know as the Juniea, one
of the names is Allah, the Jews reject Christ, Christians believe in
Christ, so how can you say each worship the same God, you need research
and study more as well deary

Hey! Hey! Hey..

Thou Shalt Not Gamble!!!

mr... i have a degree in religious studies.. don't sit here and tell me
they don't worship the same god or i will be force to call you an "
idiot" which i don't like to do islam, judaism, and christianity all
have the same God Allah means God yawah G-d, however you want to say it
it is the same god and they all share Genesis! the difference is the
lineage is different while christianity and judaism traces their
lineage from abraham and isaac, islam traces it through abraham and
ishmael..

hence why they do the hajj and the circling because the concubine hagar
and ishmael make the journey circling between the two mountains before
they find water..

adventure did you just think what you said you said he was unsaved that
made ditate it was on his deathbed he accepted christ stating that he
knew that it jesus christ really was god cause if he doubted him he
would never accepted him period your point backfire on this comment

and dont call me deary because i am not a " deary" i don't need any
chauvanistic terms applied to me.. unless of course you call men "
dearys"

good one unique go for it fullfill the gloom dome and destruction
prophesey watt a wonderfull future we all have to look forward to your
focus sucks mate do you have a clue watt gods will is im still waiting
for a bloody answer does any body know watt it is.

I think when some one is flat out telling you your religion is a lie its
an atempt at changing your point of view, if he said I believe your
religion is a lie it might be a bit different.

and arguing christ being the son of god or a prophet same thing
if you tell some one they are wrong or mistaken about what they believe
in thier hearts theres an atempt to change thier point of veiw in there
somewhere.

every one of us is whole perfect and complete. I chalenge one of you to
argue that with me with out trying to use your religion to justify your
point of view, because using it as so would be completely ineffective
with out me personaly begining to believe in it my self. That is why
these debates are pointless.

To argue religion you must firmly believe in it your self, to firmly
believe in any one religion you must have total faith in it you dont get
to pick what comes with following the bible, you get the whole of the
bible.
when you have total faith in a religion you have it and nothing will
change what you think. I dont know much about the bible but im pretty
sure god didnt say "follow the bible, unless the dude over there seems
pretty right about some thing"

who knows maybe i dont have a clue.

Judaesim does not recognize Christ because they are a rebellious nation
of impudence. Their God is still that of Abraham and the same as God
the Father. But they see not the signs you speak of for they are
impudent children and stiff hearted

Islam is not based upon desert spirits. It also is based upon the god of
Abraham. The same God that brought His Holiness Christ. Allah is the
name of God in Arabic/Persian. It is the name of God minus the
interference of Babel that god wrought when he scattered mankind out
upon the world and confused their language.

The same god that spoke to Abraham spoke also to Krishna spoke also to
Zoroaster spoke also through Christ spoke also through Mohammad. Read
the books of each and strip away the trappings placed upon the message
by men seeking to usurp the glory of God and you will see the same
message in each.

first aut, the purpose of the forum or of doing any research from a
scholarlly point of view isn't to say someone is right or wrong, because
im sure you're well aware ultimately no one is right or wrong.. no one
knows for sure we all have a religion more than likely that we were
brought up with and many great scholars have belief in their faiths,
they do research to teach others about it the point is that in many
religions there are sects that disagree , and you can debate it, just
because you debate doesn't mean you're trying to change anyones opinion
you're takin ga side, many times i will play devils advocate to someone
just to throw the other side of the issues out there, when i type in
these forums im sharing my opinions im not claiming my opinions as
facts or not.. well.. there are some things that are facts like the fact
of who worships what gods, what lineage the claim is traced through, the
basics but the theology i would argue is open to interpretation....
haven't you ever taken a class in religious studies? i guess i expect
most college students do to fulfill their humanities subjects you
discuss things and you learn different point of views and how evidence
can or can dispute those claims.. what do you think philosophy is all
about?

lineage and religion have nothing to do with each other what so ever, it
only shows the origin of a people, religion is adapted by those people
separately, the prophet mohammad only used the lineage of the Arabic
people to establish his own religion, thats why they are different
religions duuuuuuh, as well as cultures and such, you say Christianity
is the youngest religion (hahahahaha)the prohet mohammad didn't even
appear on the scene until 600 a.d (anno diomo), the dark ages of
Christainity took place during the early part of the the 3rd century
a.d, not only that, according to Joseph Flavious, a (renowned religious
historian) Paul the apostles to the gentils, was beheaded as early as
60a.d, so how can Christainity be the youngest religion, maybe you need
to return your degree (hahahahaha)

some people that post in these forums really are very intelligent and
while my opinon may be one thing i can learn something from reading
their text or debating with them really that's what it is about for me,
because from a sociological perspective i find religion amazing on the
impact it has on our society..

i said christianity is one of the youngest religions not the youngest,
the major traditions are hinduism, buddhism, judaism, christianity,
islam , and yes it does have to do with lineage... they believe in the
same god obviously you know nothing about islam, so i would prefer you
don't comment about them til you do.. you can read my post or
adventure put up a good one as well.

abraham was the man who made the first covenant with God, because of
abraham his people will be of the stars as long as they worship god ..
lineage has everything to do with it.. islam traces their lineage
through abraham hence the same god!! as christians and jews

out of the 5 major religions i just listed .. chrsitianity is the 2nd
youngest.

Wonderman my point was that AT THE TIME HE PRESIDED OVER THE COUNCIL OF
NICEA he was not a Christian he was the Emperor. He called the council
he presided over it he voiced opinions on your book yet he was not even
a Christian. He had in fact been partly responsible for the death of
Christians.

During the council one of the sects of Christianity was serverly
chastised for 'heresy' and speaking 'lies'. That is the sect of
Christianity he was later babtised by.

basically i can say this, we al lwill find out when we die
right so live and be happy

kari we never said this was just our space we understand other religions
come in here too

and mr. if you don't believe me i offer you call up to your local
university and ask a religious studies professor... do not criticise me
or call me any names in reguards to how i post as i try not to do to
you..

since you do know so much concerning Islam, what are the Sunni 6 pillars
of Faith and what are the ****te 9 pillars of faith ?????????????help us
all out here???????

****e 9 pillars of faith