Well how about we match you up against someone who has 25lbs of muscle on you and see what happens? If you like the dude cool whatever, I just call it like I see it.

lol no im more into the welterweight division


fighting someone who has 25 pounds on you when youre in the 250 range really isnt a huge deal IMO

brock is a poor exscuse of a champion. who has he fought? besides frank mir, who has his share of loses as well. i think the late great tim silvia would pound him. it doesnt really matter though feder is going to rule the ufc shortly. forgot about old randy

brock beat couture, who beat silvia btw

TIM ******* SYLVIA?

You're joking right?

He's an even bigger joke than Lesnar.


When he fought Fedor and people thought he might actually WIN I laughed hysterically in their faces. Not even for one milisecond did I think he was capable. And 36 seconds into the first round he was DONE SON.


At least Lesnar has something going for him. Sylvia looked like a giant flabby muppet and his reach advantage was the ONLY thing he had going for him.

i wish more females were into ufc

I actually hope to start training MMA in the near future.... Just want to find the right gym for me

And I'm actually not the hugest fan of the UFC but MMA in general.


Fedor is my man

thats my point i think silvia would beat lesner! as old and flabby as he is. and how old was randy when they fought 80? lesner will not have the title long. i dont even think he will beat shane carwin

i want faber to come into ufc

1st off - When they 1st fought Mir weighed 255 lbs vs Lesnars 265 lbs (at the time of the weigh in): It was Mir's decision to drop the extra 10 lbs in the 2nd fight.

2ndly - When Mir was Given the fight the 1st time (1st by the Ref who saved Mir while being Pummeled [Mir spins to get hit in the back of the head from an oncoming punch; the Ref doesn't Warn Lesnar he just breaks them up: I've NEVER seen a 1st Punch to the back of the head stoppage] 2nd gift Lesnar steps into the submission). After the fight Mir talks smack for the whole year Non-stop dissing Lesnar.

3rd off - The Man was in the WWE, he can teach courses on talking Smack and Now he gets the opportunity to return fire to Mir (What does anyone really expect after a year of Mir flapping his gums?

Lastly, I'm NOT saying that he's instantly at Fedor's level: However, a 230 lbs Fedor will have even MORE problems preventing that Strong, Agile Beast from being taken down to the mat than Mir did.

Lesnar, for all his faults is actually freakishly strong.

I know I'll hear all about WWE being fake, but nothings fake about a guy the size of Lesnar picking up a 500 lb. man and throwning him around.

That aside, Steve Austin would never have been a good choice for the UFC, there are some legitimate badA$$es who would be far better for that transition. Lashely and Lesnar are already showing up, but take a look at a guy like Shelton Benjamin, who was a grappler for the University of Minnesota (same school as lesnar), the man is insanely fast (has clocked 40 speeds at the 4.3 4.4 times) very agile, and strong.

Angle would have been dominate.

How would Mike Tyson have done in his day?

The other thing with Brock is I think his WWE background does help in certain ways. I'm sure it improved his pain tolerance along with his ability to handle concussions.

I don't hate on Brock. People hate on him cause he got a title shot without going up the ladder. But how is that his fault? If you want to blame somebody for it, blame Dana White. What was Brock going to say, no I don't want a title shot?

Yes he outweighs everyone. Again, not his fault, he cuts down to the weight limit that UFC created, it's not his fault there's a 60 pound spread between light heavy weight and heavy weight.

My take on the fiasco with UFC 100. I'd give Brock a pass this once and chalk it up to adrenaline, and his background in WWE. It probably became a bit of a habit after all those WWE matches where he was expected to make a big scene and be controversial. if he does it again, he's a jerk but I give him 1 pass cause he's so used to doing that stuff and being asked to do that kind of crap.

Don't mistake mixed martial arts with martial arts. A lot of the time "martial arts" aren't martial arts. MMA is a sport, a lot of martial arts dojos, I'd consider sport. part of martial arts is the tradition, knowing the history, spiritual development, developing a sense of honor, respect, and discipline. True martial arts is a way of life not just fighting. A lot of MMA fighters are true martial artists (Mochida, Chuck Lidell (he has a black belt in Koei Kan Karate, it's the style I grew up learning) along with others. But some guys are more sportsman than martial artist, nothing wrong with either but there is a difference IMO.

You're right this is Dana Whites fault and if he's not careful he will really piss off his fighters with crap like this. Unfortunately the UFC is the place to be for these fighters so they really don't have much of a choice but to put up with Dana. I have even more respect for Fedor for not signing with the UFC and honestly I hope it stays that way. I would love to see him fight Lesnar but Dana White doesn't deserve to call him his fighter.

I will continue to hate on Lesnar because regardless of his background he is just a TOOL with a crappy attitude. "I might even climb on top of my wife later" - that's just as tacky as it gets.

Again, you're right geek, most of these guys are fighters and not true martial artists. If Dana White wants to turn this into a 3 ring circus like the WWE then he should keep signing guys like Lesnar.

um no. he's a fake wrestler with lots of spinal damage. hes a weak soul in the UFC, if it were to ever happen..

Actually as soon as that happened Dana went to the back to talk to Brock about it. Whatever fans might think of Dana (and I've seen a lot of negative comments about him on other boards) they should remember that MMA would be relegated to a side sport in other countries and the UFC would've gone under without him. Despite his faults he was responsible for turning the UFC into a legit sport, without him we wouldn't have UFC to watch on regular cable, we wouldn't know about Anderson Silva or GSP.

Fedor should sign with the UFC after he's done with whatever association he's in now. He's built up perhaps the most impressive resume but his legacy will take a hit if he continues to fight lesser known opponents in less known venues. I'd love a Fedor vs Brock fight.

Sorry geek, but when it comes to the Heavyweight Division you should rely on more than the UFC to tell you who the Best. Take a look at MMA News (which is an unbiased MMA news affiliation, sort of like an ESPN for the MMA) and see where the UFC fits in the Heavyweight Division.

http://www.mmanews.com/page.php?page=rankings


Note that this poll was taken prior to the fight: However I'm pretty sure that #3 losing to #6 is going to change the top 5 much. Either way the UFC only has 2 fighters in the Top 5.

Saw the list:

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Josh Barnett
3. Frank Mir
4. Andrei Arlovski
5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
6. Brock Lesnar
7. Randy Couture
8. Tim Sylvia
9. Gabriel Gonzaga
10. Alistair Overeem

Fedor, we've discussed. barnett used to be in the UFC, had the title in 2002 beating Couture, then he tested positive for roids. Stripped of his title and suspended by the Nevada Athletic Commission. Since then he's had a run in Pride (which is the UFC now, since Zuffa bought them some years ago).

Frank Mir in the UFC, Arlovski used to be in the UFC, couldn't seem to beat Tim Sylvia.

Nogueira is in the UFC, scheduled to fight Couture at UFC 102. Was in Pride before (again, Pride is now more or less UFC-Japan).

Lesnar- UFC
Couture-UFC
Sylvia - used to be in UFC, got whupped by Fedor in Affliction, and last time he fought, he lost to Mercer (who had previously lost to...Kimbo Slice by Submission...WTF?)
Gonzaga = UFC

Last guy I never heard of. Everyone on that list other than 1 and 10 are in or were in the UFC (5 currently in ufc and 3 used to be). Nearly everyone on that page is from the UFC, and 8 out of 10 pound for pound best fighters are in the UFC. Your argument doesn't present me with much proof that the UFC doesn't have the top competition for Fedor.

I agree, I laughed my *** off when I first saw Lesnar in UFC. There isn't much honor in Lesnar, he is really just a big circus freak...

What more can a guy do other than own up and apologize for doing something stupid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBEs130CjYI&feature=related

Exactly!!! So all of the best have left the UFC (at some time) and Fedor has beat them: So how will Fedor's legacy take a Hit? Because he didn't let the UFC exploit him for less than he felt he is worth?