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Topic: How To Legally Say 'NO' To All Vaccines
cabot's photo
Sat 06/27/09 06:19 PM
Parents rights have been stripped away over the years, but when the child does something bad, who is the first person to get the blame? The parent. Frustrating and I feel like being a parent is the hardest job I've ever had. And I have had many hard jobs.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 06/27/09 06:23 PM
I agree...it's not easy to be a parent....or at least a good one doing their best. many parents in my neighborhood could care less as long as the kids don't bother them

I guess I don't know the solution to the problem of the OP

lulu24's photo
Sat 06/27/09 06:52 PM
there are many out there that question the idea of vaccinations. should it...give my child a substance that might just harm them, made of questionable substances that are NOT by any means consistent with the pro-life or vegetarian lifestyle...to fight a disease that doesn't really exist any more?

and how well do they even work? i myself have been fully vaccinated, and yet i have pertussis.

those of us that are a bit more crunchy are less likely to just take the mainstream view as our own. if anyone has questions, i'll send them a conversation on such...

cabot's photo
Sat 06/27/09 07:15 PM
Edited by cabot on Sat 06/27/09 07:50 PM
Exactly! Ever since the "findings" that vaccinations can cause autism. the two good things collided and not the truth. However, that truth can be found, but at a price. Data. Data on deaths and Autism....jmo

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 06/27/09 07:38 PM
MEASELS....that is what it was on the show...sorry the Law and Order episode about it is on

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 07/04/09 09:52 PM
Former Marine Claims Illness From Mystery Vaccine
CLERMONT COUNTY, Ohio -- Target 5 has discovered that an alarming number of U.S. troops are having severe reactions to some of the vaccines they receive in preparation for going overseas.

"This is the worst cover-up in the history of the military," said an unidentified military health officer who fears for his job.

A shot from a syringe is leaving some U.S. servicemen and women on the brink of death.

"When the issue, I believe, of the use of the vaccine comes out, I believe it will make the Walter Reed scandal pale in comparison," said the health officer.

Lance Corporal David Fey, 20, has dialysis three days a week. His kidneys are failing, his military career is over, and he feels like his country abandoned him.

"I can't look at my old pictures. I really can't," said Fey. "I start looking at my old pictures, and I start crying."

Fey grew up amid the farm fields of Clermont County.

"I never missed a day at school," he said. "I was never sick. I was never sick."

A passion for sports and a sense of patriotism prompted the Blanchester High School athlete to join the Marines the day he turned 18.

"I looked at every branch, but I wanted the Marine Corps, because the Marine Corps was the few and the proud," said Fey.

Fey said he loved every minute of boot camp and combat training at 29 Palms in California. But on Nov. 28, 2005, his life would change forever. Fey was one of a group of Marines who lined up for an undisclosed shot.

"They asked us our name. We stood on these yellow footprints, and they gave us this shot, and we got the rest of the day off," he recalled. "After that shot, I started swelling up. I gained 30 pounds of water. My eyes swelled up where I couldn't see. I started snoring. I developed a rash on my hand."

Three weeks later, Fey was back in Clermont County on his death bed at Clinton Memorial Hospital. His kidneys were failing, and his body was so swollen that it left stretch marks.

"I would pray a lot," said Fey's mother, Cindy. "I would pray a lot, 'God take him.' When I couldn't hug my son because he would scream in pain or yell at me for touching him and stuff, I used to pray to God, 'just take him tonight.'"

Cindy Fey began pouring over medical records in search of answers. She said the shot was never listed in he son's medical records. The military claimed he never received a shot.

But as Target 5 discovered, the military's story would change.

The Department of Defense stated that "all service members' vaccinations are documented in the individual's permanent medical record." But Fey's military medical records revealed no shot on that day. Another Marine in Fey's unit told Target 5 that there is no shot listed in his medical records either and also said that the people who administered the shot never told his unit what it was.

When Cindy Fey called the U.S. Marine Hospital in 29 Palms to find out what kind of vaccine her son was given, she was told that the information was confidential.

Eleven months later, her son's medical records were mysteriously changed with a handwritten notation indicating that the mystery shot was a flu vaccine.

The military official who spoke to Target 5 on the condition of anonymity said that it was not surprising that nothing appeared originally in Fey's records.

"We have a lovely term for that," he said. "We call it C.Y.A. That's unfortunately an S.O.P. in the military."

Fey is one of a growing number of U.S. servicemen and women who are getting sick after receiving vaccines. And the highly praised Department of Defense medical officer who spoke with Target 5 said that the number is up in the thousands. The symptoms range from joint aches and pains and arthritic symptoms to death.

The Department of Defense said that it encourages "healthcare workers and vaccine recipients to report adverse (reactions) events." But the military never reported Fey's reaction to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the FDA.

"I see the way the propaganda and information war is waged against America's sons and daughters and how patients are treated who claim to be injured from a vaccine," said the unidentified health officer. "That's troubling. That should trouble America." The officer said those who have claimed to have had adverse reactions to shots are treated like it is all in their heads.

Asked whether servicemen and women are receiving experimental vaccines, the officer said, "I would hope to God not. But from what I've seen, I would have to say yes."

The Department of Defense maintains that the vaccines given to U.S. troops are safe.

Meanwhile, Fey is still waiting for a kidney transplant.

"My biggest wish -- just to get up and be without pain," he said. "To get up and just be happy again."

Fey's mother has been in contact with U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown in an effort to receive some answers. Target 5 contacted Brown's office and received the following statement:

“My office is in frequent communication with the Marine Corps and the family, and we’ve requested answers to the family’s specific questions. I have also assisted Mr. Fey in receiving his VA benefits for health care, service-connected disability, and education assistance. His mother has been a strong advocate on his behalf, and I look forward to continuing working with her to resolve outstanding issues. It is imperative that everything possible is done to keep the brave men and women serving in our military safe.”

http://www.wlwt.com/news/13271378/detail.html

hellkitten54's photo
Sun 07/05/09 08:04 AM
My son is allergic to some ingredients in vaccines. I refused his last set of vaccines because of that reason. I will never give him anymore either. My son stayed so sick the first 20 months of his life and he hasn't been since I changed his diet and no vaccines.

BTW, even if your child is vaccinated, they can STILL get those diseases. It isn't likely but it's still possible. My neice had the chicken pox shot, ans still got them.

lulu24's photo
Sun 07/05/09 10:50 AM

My son is allergic to some ingredients in vaccines. I refused his last set of vaccines because of that reason. I will never give him anymore either. My son stayed so sick the first 20 months of his life and he hasn't been since I changed his diet and no vaccines.

BTW, even if your child is vaccinated, they can STILL get those diseases. It isn't likely but it's still possible. My neice had the chicken pox shot, ans still got them.


kitten, my daughter and i were both vaccinated against pertussis...and both got it this year.

hellkitten54's photo
Sun 07/05/09 11:03 AM


My son is allergic to some ingredients in vaccines. I refused his last set of vaccines because of that reason. I will never give him anymore either. My son stayed so sick the first 20 months of his life and he hasn't been since I changed his diet and no vaccines.

BTW, even if your child is vaccinated, they can STILL get those diseases. It isn't likely but it's still possible. My neice had the chicken pox shot, ans still got them.


kitten, my daughter and i were both vaccinated against pertussis...and both got it this year.


I'm sorry you both got sick, feeling better I assume? Just another reason I won't give my kid vaccines.

lulu24's photo
Sun 07/05/09 11:05 AM



My son is allergic to some ingredients in vaccines. I refused his last set of vaccines because of that reason. I will never give him anymore either. My son stayed so sick the first 20 months of his life and he hasn't been since I changed his diet and no vaccines.

BTW, even if your child is vaccinated, they can STILL get those diseases. It isn't likely but it's still possible. My neice had the chicken pox shot, ans still got them.


kitten, my daughter and i were both vaccinated against pertussis...and both got it this year.


I'm sorry you both got sick, feeling better I assume? Just another reason I won't give my kid vaccines.


getting better. it's been about two months...it's a long recovery process.

the vaccine apparently only has an 85% efficacy rate. i'm very selective of what i give my kids now...and wish i had done my research when my oldest two were younger.

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