Topic: Feminist guys?
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Mon 06/22/09 03:14 PM
Edited by CarlHofflander on Mon 06/22/09 03:19 PM
Are there any guys on here that are into feminism and stuff like that? I feel like it hurts me. So many girls say ''I know men.... they're all the same''. Right; conformity IS widespread. Hence me wanting to not be the same old shmuck. Or the girls snort ''Riiiight; you're a feminist''. WTH?

I care about everyones problems and want to help. Eqaulity is important. I'm white, but I care about civil rights. If I were alive at the time; I would have been there at the Million Man March. A lot of different races were. I've thought about joining an organization that helps abused women. I'm straight, but I'd help support gay rights.

Why is that so weird and impossible to believe? :( Anyone on here know where I'm coming from?

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Mon 06/22/09 03:20 PM
yep

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Mon 06/22/09 03:23 PM

Are there any guys on here that are into feminism and stuff like that? I feel like it hurts me. So many girls say ''I know men.... they're all the same''. Right; conformity IS widespread. Hence me wanting to not be the same old shmuck. Or the girls snort ''Riiiight; you're a feminist''. WTH?

I care about everyones problems and want to help. Eqaulity is important. I'm white, but I care about civil rights. If I were alive at the time; I would have been there at the Million Man March. A lot of different races were. I've thought about joining an organization that helps abused women. I'm straight, but I'd help support gay rights.

Why is that so weird and impossible to believe? :( Anyone on here know where I'm coming from?


Equality is funny, now everyone wants "special" priveledges based on their culture or disability...all the while screaming "I want to be equal". No one is equal, sad truth, of course no one was really ever equal.

That's what keeps life interesting, the debate over this and that. I personally don't care, either way I look at it there isn't going to be much that changes. Perhaps you should support gay rights and actually join a battered woman's shelter instead of saying "I think I might" or "I would"...

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Mon 06/22/09 03:30 PM
I've volunteered everywhere, but I was worried about this one because abused women probably don't want a man there, you know? So I have to look into that a little. And who says I don't support gay rights? Anger problems much? Watch the movie analize this and shoot a pillow laugh laugh laugh

Anyhow; cave people were probably kindof equal. Nobody had ''rights''; you just did whatever you wanted to, lol.

I agree though; many people don't want true ''equality''; they just want more than the other guy. Like when a women stabs you for no reason; and the cops drag your bleeding butt to prison.

I don't like how some people look down on you for not having everything now. Like ''why aren't you superman? You aren't doing EVERYTHING yet, so you ****!''. Know what I mean fearandloathing? Like ''I haven't found an org for this specific thing yet'' ''Oh yeah; then you talk to much!''. Uggh.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:33 PM

I've volunteered everywhere, but I was worried about this one because abused women probably don't want a man there, you know? So I have to look into that a little. And who says I don't support gay rights? Anger problems much? Watch the movie analize this and shoot a pillow laugh laugh laugh

Anyhow; cave people were probably kindof equal. Nobody had ''rights''; you just did whatever you wanted to, lol.

I agree though; many people don't want true ''equality''; they just want more than the other guy. Like when a women stabs you for no reason; and the cops drag your bleeding butt to prison.

I don't like how some people look down on you for not having everything now. Like ''why aren't you superman? You aren't doing EVERYTHING yet, so you ****!''. Know what I mean fearandloathing? Like ''I haven't found an org for this specific thing yet'' ''Oh yeah; then you talk to much!''. Uggh.


"But I'd help support gay rights" is a dead giveaway that you haven't yet. Why the hell does everyone think I'm angry, I'm rarely angry...I honestly rarely care enough to get angry.

I was just pointing things out, you can make all the excuses in the world and do all the finger pointing you want...don't want the help then stop asking questions.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:40 PM
Edited by CarlHofflander on Mon 06/22/09 03:44 PM
Whatever dude. Thanks for the advice anyway. Does everyone acuse you of being angry? Ha, I guess I've joined the club :P

Anyhow; I help everyone I can as much as possible. If a church is struggling with putting up chairs, I help. Whatever. I'm not even religious anymore. That's not the point of this thread really though. I'm just wondering if anyone else gets looked down on for being this way. Obviously the prejudiced people will look down, they always will. I've never ever had a situation where a gay or black person looked down on me for caring. Not once, they were always happy that I care. But girls....... girls are different.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:42 PM

Whatever dude. Thanks for the advice anyway.


Yep.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:45 PM
:angry: I see your type on Lifetime all the timeflowerforyou

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Mon 06/22/09 03:45 PM

Are there any guys on here that are into feminism and stuff like that? I feel like it hurts me. So many girls say ''I know men.... they're all the same''. Right; conformity IS widespread. Hence me wanting to not be the same old shmuck. Or the girls snort ''Riiiight; you're a feminist''. WTH?

I care about everyones problems and want to help. Eqaulity is important. I'm white, but I care about civil rights. If I were alive at the time; I would have been there at the Million Man March. A lot of different races were. I've thought about joining an organization that helps abused women. I'm straight, but I'd help support gay rights.

Why is that so weird and impossible to believe? :( Anyone on here know where I'm coming from?


Its nice to help women for the sake of caring about womens issues, but to do things to try to appeal to any uneducated woman, who generalises about men, imo is a really bad thing.

Feminisim is believing in empowerment in femininity, and equality in the sexes. Unfortunately, too many take it as, aggression,angry rude speech, being controlling, being accusatory, finger pointing, and even to the point of acting masculine as being strength.

These individuals are misguded.

None of that negativity, or generalisation helps anybody.

If your all for women, great. But please, do nothing less than what inspires you personally.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:46 PM
I guess that's the main point of my thread; how girls act about all of it. I grew up with girls as best friends, and I STILL don't understand their minds...... lol :tongue:

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Mon 06/22/09 03:46 PM
you seem to be a fine example of a liberated new age guy and a role model for men to follow

now get in the kitchen and get me a beer

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Mon 06/22/09 03:47 PM
Edited by CarlHofflander on Mon 06/22/09 03:47 PM
Thanks EarthyTaurus :)

@quiet2008: Ha :P

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Mon 06/22/09 03:47 PM

Whatever dude. Thanks for the advice anyway. Does everyone acuse you of being angry? Ha, I guess I've joined the club :P

Anyhow; I help everyone I can as much as possible. If a church is struggling with putting up chairs, I help. Whatever. I'm not even religious anymore. That's not the point of this thread really though. I'm just wondering if anyone else gets looked down on for being this way. Obviously the prejudiced people will look down, they always will. I've never ever had a situation where a gay or black person looked down on me for caring. Not once, they were always happy that I care. But girls....... girls are different.


Why does it matter? As long as you like what you are doing who cares what other people think? Keep doing what you love to do and screw what other people think about it...that's what I'm doing.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:48 PM
Great advice fearandloathing. But I want a gf, and it seems like they're lame to me about this. Do you think I should just not say anything about it to them? Leading by example is of course the best way to go.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:52 PM

Great advice fearandloathing. But I want a gf, and it seems like they're lame to me about this. Do you think I should just not say anything about it to them? Leading by example is of course the best way to go.


Personally these types of things tend to be more personal anyway, I would only bring it up if asked my opinion on the matter. This opens a new load of conversations that can go in numerous directions, I honestly don't know why you are looked down on by women in the first place...would think most to find it admirable or noble, not a weakness. You could even try to think of creative ways to bring it up if you wanted to bring it up initially, I can't see "I help women at battered shelters" being a good icebreaker. Work with it, eventually something will come together.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:52 PM

Great advice fearandloathing. But I want a gf, and it seems like they're lame to me about this. Do you think I should just not say anything about it to them? Leading by example is of course the best way to go.


ok ok... i dont know WHO that question was directed at lol..

but all I have to say is.. yeah.. it just sounds like a ploy to get laid, no offense.

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Mon 06/22/09 03:56 PM
Edited by CarlHofflander on Mon 06/22/09 03:57 PM
Maybe it does. I'm a virgin (spiritual reasons) and am not interested in ''getting laid''. But when a convo with a girl comes up about ''how you see a realtionship'', these things come up. And you want a girl to know how you feel about these issues.

I of course am basing my position on ''who'' I've dated so far and by what I see in the media's version of society. I know there are great girls out there, I just haven't found any yet :P

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Mon 06/22/09 03:59 PM

Maybe it does. I'm a virgin (spiritual reasons) and am not interested in ''getting laid''. But when a convo with a girl comes up about ''how you see a realtionship'', these things come up. And you want a girl to know how you feel about these issues.

I of course am basing my position on ''who'' I've dated so far and by what I see in the media's version of society. I know there are great girls out there, I just haven't found any yet :P


Good for you! You sound like a great catch! Keep on keepin on! When the times right, youll find women who are special.

Unfortunately, people dont always see your heart. Id be a little subtle about the fem thing when getting to know someone, but you sound like your off to a good start. :wink:

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Mon 06/22/09 04:02 PM
Haha, thanks :)