Do you believe in Karma? What goes around actually does come back around?

Boomerangs really do work

yes definatley,in this life or next you reap what you sow.

I would like to but @ this moment in my life... not so much!

totaly

hello jill

your so right texasblaze

Absolutely.

..actually no i dont believe in karma..whats that some force that watches and sees when someone has done us wrong and then what ..waits to ensure they get their come uppance...seems rather far fetched to me...maybe i should read my fortune cookie and see what will happen next...people are silly... jmo

I do & i've seen it happen.......scary!

...i guess karma is more believable than coincidence...jmo

I don't believe in it at all.

i believe in it and i believe it's biting me in the *** right now

...i guess you couldnt put karma and nice guys finishing last in the same sentence now could ya..because if they were nice then karma would see that they finished first...

Ok, who classifies these guys as "nice"?? I don't know how many guys I've seen claim to be nice, and really what they should have said is that they were pushovers without a personality who would please a woman by waiting on her hand and foot, but not to expect them to have a unique thought in their head...........(my experience in guys that claim to be "nice guys" and complain about how nobody likes them.........) There is a difference between being a nice person and going through life trying to be nice and getting pizzed because nobody notices.......if what you want is recognition for being "nice" then imo you are not a nice person, but a fraud.......but anyhoo. If you are "nice" then it is who you are, and you don't blame it on why women don't like you.

Anyhoo, to respond to your other comment about "who" keeps track, karma does not mean that there is some "being" or "God" keeping track..........but rather it is like a law. The same as gravity, if you drop something it will fall.......... If "anyone" keeps track it is the soul of the person..........

I believe in karma, what you put out into the world comes back to you..........never say "I'll never" because you will certainly do it, lol......... It is more of a "balance" thing to me, and not about some cosmic "being".

That argument falls apart if you consider that gravity is the result of the physical property of an object's mass relative to the position and distance of other objects.

"Karma," on the other hand, requires the establishment of some sort of arbitrary balance by which the karmic equilibrium/symmetry can be maintained. A person's actions and thoughts are not governed (strictly speaking) by the laws of physics. Gravity is. The problem here is that the determination of what constitutes "balance" (i.e., you do bad, you get paid back with bad) involves a value system (good/bad) which is, of necessity, completely anthropocentric.

That being the case, "karma" can only exist in the minds of those who have accepted the arbitrary value system as valid in the first place.

For me, it's a simple argument -- the establishment and maintenance of a "balance" requires someone or something to have done the establishing and maintaining, and now you're veering off into the supernatural. As I have seen nothing to indicate that "karma" is real, and inasmuch as I do not accept the anthropocentric value system either, I can't see any validity to the karmic concept.

I suppose it may be useful to some as a panacea, a comfort for the downtrodden who hope that there is something better for them in the future. But we already have religion for that.



And the "balance" comes from....?

And where does the balance come from? Ever heard ,

reaction->counter reaction?

If it work in a cycle in the nature (and the entire universe), somehow human interaction and projection of influence or behavior cannot work in a cycle-way, having it to bite you in the *** at the end?

It's not gonna bite you in the same way as you projected it..but it goes all around and comes back in an entirely different way.

I'll give you a fictional scenario.

-I'm angry and just a big bastard. I talk down to people and as we all know, all people have feelings and with my talk and behavior I project a negativity to others.
Let's say one other I just ruined his day with me being a bastard, all pi$$ed off at work, he might not know why , maybe my bitching to him in a completely different environment and non work-related discussion, was the height of the point, when he just lost it. So he is pissed off, and have a worker who doen't always keep up and by just being angry at that day, he looses his temper and fires the worker.

The worker feels miserable and goes out drinking at that night, loosing his job and tries to drive home while being drunk. I'm walking down the street 10 blocks from where he is driving but he is taking the direction and runs over me.

I know, sounds like a bunch of coincidences, but there is a reason why the guy was drinking, there is a reason why he got fired and there is a reason why his boss was pissed off, and there might be a reason why was I such a bastard.

It's two different things. One is a property of the laws of physics, which exist independently of human existence. Our concept of karma is completely anthropocentric, meaning it cannot exist apart from human recognition/intellect.

We can be pretty sure that gravity existed before humans ever evolved -- given the nature of planetary orbits, galactic clusters, etc. Where is "karma" in an entirely unpopulated universe, though?

It's a totally human construct; in my mind, that makes it highly suspect.

Would humans evolved without gravity?

Hmmm?

So I don't know how you separate psychics versus humans (or any living or non living materials) . It is not so independent..while gravity can exist without humans...humans can't exist without gravity, so there is a connection.

Hellz Yeah...... It wont happen fast always... but it will happen!!!!