Topic: Jewish Festival in San Fran.
PharaohRamses's photo
Fri 06/19/09 03:48 PM
Recently I went to the Museum of Modern Art in SF.
Across the street there Was a Jewish festival where these Palestinians were protesting the occupation of Palestine, and I noticed all the hippies and liberals were protesting with the Palestinians... Part of me wanted to hold up a Women's Rights sign or a Gay flag and see how fast that alliance would fall apart.

Now before you demonize me with angry comments and please feel free to do so... I don't agree with the occupation ..... I just found the alliances in the protest to be an oxymoron.



yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/19/09 03:51 PM
ok...I know I'm out of it today...but can you explain why this is odd to you? again...just clarifying

PharaohRamses's photo
Fri 06/19/09 04:01 PM
No worries happy to Explain....

About 99.99999% of hippies (and I don't mean that in a degrading manor) and liberals are enormous advocates of Women's Rights and Gay Rights.... In Palestine women have very few rights and it's not uncommon for someone who is gay to be be-headed or stoned (and not the hippies version of stoned).

I find it odd standing together when their world views are completely opposite.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/19/09 04:03 PM
gotcha....from my experience (my sister and her family lol) they consider themselves as liberal hippies....i'm total opposite...but knowing them....they protest for freedoms

now that being said...they would protest for them...then protest for the rights after that

make sense?

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Fri 06/19/09 04:11 PM

No worries happy to Explain....

About 99.99999% of hippies (and I don't mean that in a degrading manor) and liberals are enormous advocates of Women's Rights and Gay Rights.... In Palestine women have very few rights and it's not uncommon for someone who is gay to be be-headed or stoned (and not the hippies version of stoned).

I find it odd standing together when their world views are completely opposite.


Why can't they stand together on one view even if they disagree on another?

PharaohRamses's photo
Fri 06/19/09 04:12 PM
Well seeing as I know the trend of how most liberals go, being one myself... it makes sense in that matter... Only thing I find irritating is that Palestinian Gov. publicly advertises those beliefs. I believe in a 2 state solution, and for Israel to recognize Palestian independence, and I don't look as Israel as a saint. However if Palestine has it's gov. (which I think it should) how do they think women will be treated?

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 06/19/09 04:13 PM

Well seeing as I know the trend of how most liberals go, being one myself... it makes sense in that matter... Only thing I find irritating is that Palestinian Gov. publicly advertises those beliefs. I believe in a 2 state solution, and for Israel to recognize Palestian independence, and I don't look as Israel as a saint. However if Palestine has it's gov. (which I think it should) how do they think women will be treated?


maybe that is the catch....they recognize the countries opinions (whether they agree or not) but think they should be free to make those decisions???

just a thought

PharaohRamses's photo
Fri 06/19/09 04:18 PM
ahhh!!! I knew after I wrote that I should have chosen my words more carefully. I'm not saying they should hate one another, I believe in a common goal. I just think people have a tendency to always demonize the bigger power, my liberal base especially, when if fact both Palestine and Israel are guilty.

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Fri 06/19/09 05:27 PM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 06/19/09 05:33 PM
"Across the street there Was a Jewish festival where these Palestinians were protesting the occupation of Palestine, and I noticed all the hippies and liberals were protesting with the Palestinians"

Ive got to ask.. What does a liberal look like? What does a conservative look like? I am neither tho I have conservative friends who support a Palestinian state...Just asking...

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 06/19/09 05:48 PM
:smile: The palestinans are an oppressed people living under extreme occupation. :smile: Kinda hard to advocate for womens rights and all that stuff when you arnt even allowed to get food or clean water or your house could get bombed at any second:smile: