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Topic: oasbama gives fed reserve more power
Dragoness's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:02 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Wed 06/17/09 07:04 PM



....The Obama plan would give new powers to the Federal Reserve to oversee the entire financial system .......


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama proposed sweeping new “rules of the road” for the nation’s financial system Wednesday, casting the changes as a critically important response to the economic crisis and the greatest regulatory transformation since the Great Depression.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31403945/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/


I guess none of the posters here were listening to his earlier speeches where he said this needs to be done to stop the root cause of the housing crisis again, huh?

So this is nothing new and nothing that needs to be feared.

It is needed so we do not have the same problem again with the greed that happened from deregulation.


Come on folks.

Set the hatred down long enough to see the real picture.


so because obama says so, it's necessary? there's no hatred here, just the belief that obama is a flaming idiot for trying this. The fault of all of this can be rooted in two places: the banks and the consumer. The consumer should have been responsible, but the banks have the power to print money as the fed reserve banks are run by the banks in that district. That means, when they run out of capital, they can have more printed so they have more to loan. That is the root.

saying you should not question the government is the most ignorant thought imaginable.


Yup you said it and this is going to help the problem.

Also I never said not to question anything. I said see it clearly.

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:04 PM




....The Obama plan would give new powers to the Federal Reserve to oversee the entire financial system .......


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama proposed sweeping new “rules of the road” for the nation’s financial system Wednesday, casting the changes as a critically important response to the economic crisis and the greatest regulatory transformation since the Great Depression.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31403945/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/


I guess none of the posters here were listening to his earlier speeches where he said this needs to be done to stop the root cause of the housing crisis again, huh?

So this is nothing new and nothing that needs to be feared.

It is needed so we do not have the same problem again with the greed that happened from deregulation.


Come on folks.

Set the hatred down long enough to see the real picture.


so because obama says so, it's necessary? there's no hatred here, just the belief that obama is a flaming idiot for trying this. The fault of all of this can be rooted in two places: the banks and the consumer. The consumer should have been responsible, but the banks have the power to print money as the fed reserve banks are run by the banks in that district. That means, when they run out of capital, they can have more printed so they have more to loan. That is the root.

saying you should not question the government is the most ignorant thought imaginable.


Yup you said and this is going to help the problem.

Also I never said not to question anything. I said see it clearly.


It is a bit like turning a pedo lose in a day care and telling to fix his illness.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:05 PM
HOW IS THIS SUPPOSED TO STOP THINGS OR HELP???

Dragoness's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:06 PM





....The Obama plan would give new powers to the Federal Reserve to oversee the entire financial system .......


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama proposed sweeping new “rules of the road” for the nation’s financial system Wednesday, casting the changes as a critically important response to the economic crisis and the greatest regulatory transformation since the Great Depression.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31403945/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/


I guess none of the posters here were listening to his earlier speeches where he said this needs to be done to stop the root cause of the housing crisis again, huh?

So this is nothing new and nothing that needs to be feared.

It is needed so we do not have the same problem again with the greed that happened from deregulation.


Come on folks.

Set the hatred down long enough to see the real picture.


so because obama says so, it's necessary? there's no hatred here, just the belief that obama is a flaming idiot for trying this. The fault of all of this can be rooted in two places: the banks and the consumer. The consumer should have been responsible, but the banks have the power to print money as the fed reserve banks are run by the banks in that district. That means, when they run out of capital, they can have more printed so they have more to loan. That is the root.

saying you should not question the government is the most ignorant thought imaginable.


Yup you said and this is going to help the problem.

Also I never said not to question anything. I said see it clearly.


It is a bit like turning a pedo lose in a day care and telling to fix his illness.


Dramatic analogy but not even slightly the least bit close.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:06 PM

HOW IS THIS SUPPOSED TO STOP THINGS OR HELP???


Did you read it? Read it.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:07 PM


HOW IS THIS SUPPOSED TO STOP THINGS OR HELP???


Did you read it? Read it.


I read it and don't buy it

AndrewAV's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:09 PM




....The Obama plan would give new powers to the Federal Reserve to oversee the entire financial system .......


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama proposed sweeping new “rules of the road” for the nation’s financial system Wednesday, casting the changes as a critically important response to the economic crisis and the greatest regulatory transformation since the Great Depression.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31403945/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/


I guess none of the posters here were listening to his earlier speeches where he said this needs to be done to stop the root cause of the housing crisis again, huh?

So this is nothing new and nothing that needs to be feared.

It is needed so we do not have the same problem again with the greed that happened from deregulation.


Come on folks.

Set the hatred down long enough to see the real picture.


so because obama says so, it's necessary? there's no hatred here, just the belief that obama is a flaming idiot for trying this. The fault of all of this can be rooted in two places: the banks and the consumer. The consumer should have been responsible, but the banks have the power to print money as the fed reserve banks are run by the banks in that district. That means, when they run out of capital, they can have more printed so they have more to loan. That is the root.

saying you should not question the government is the most ignorant thought imaginable.


Yup you said it and this is going to help the problem.

Also I never said not to question anything. I said see it clearly.


I have just one question for you:

have you ever studied business, finance, or economics at even a junior college level?

willing2's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:09 PM

HOW IS THIS SUPPOSED TO STOP THINGS OR HELP???

It means the FED will be above the law and there won't be much chance of them being investigated or audited.

BHO lining his retirement a little more?

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:13 PM

Dodd, who had been at Obama’s side in the East Room of the White House for the announcement, raised questions about one of the plan’s key features — giving the Federal Reserve authority to oversee the largest and most interconnected players in the financial world. “There’s not a lot of confidence in the Fed at this point,” Dodd said.

But the proposal also would do away with a restriction imposed on the Fed in 1999 when Congress lifted Depression-era restrictions that allowed banks to get into securities and insurance businesses. The Fed, as the regulator for the larger financial holding companies, had been prohibited from examining or imposing restrictions on those firms’ subsidiaries. Obama’s proposal specifically lifts that restriction, giving the Fed the ability to duplicate and even overrule other regulators.

Fed defenders argue that none of the major institutional collapses — AIG, Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros., Merrill Lynch or Countrywide — were supervised by the Federal Reserve. Critics argue the Fed failed to crack down on dubious mortgage practices that were at the heart of the crisis.


Dragoness's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:13 PM


HOW IS THIS SUPPOSED TO STOP THINGS OR HELP???

It means the FED will be above the law and there won't be much chance of them being investigated or audited.

BHO lining his retirement a little more?


No it doesn'tslaphead

Hey go ahead with the hate fest

I am done here.

Nobody wants to study up on it or actually UNDERSTAND IT so I will let ya'll have your unjustified hate fest.

Some people, geezzzzz

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:14 PM
I'll be the first to admit I don't know as much as some in here about economics (at least I can admit it)

but I would like to hear why people think it is good and not just because BHO says sofrustrated

Atlantis75's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:17 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 06/17/09 07:19 PM
Here is the headline from the article posted above in the link:

Obama blames current financial crisis on ‘a culture of irresponsibility’



I blame Obama for blaming the "culture". What in the hell is he talking about?




“We’ll have it done this year,” pledged Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

“Absolutely,” agreed Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.



LOL..2 of the most corrupt senators agreeing immediately. No wonder, ....look up both on the net to find out about their flip-flopping, money laundering and corrupt dealings with AIG (Dodd) and other insurance giants such as Fennie Mae and Fraddy Mac (B. Frank).

USA is owned by lobbyists, special interest groups and banks.

adj4u's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:21 PM

I'll be the first to admit I don't know as much as some in here about economics (at least I can admit it)

but I would like to hear why people think it is good and not just because BHO says sofrustrated


maybe we should ask luke or uncle jessie

daisy not sure ask about that would be the first priority

after all they would back bho anyway

so much for that idea


:wink: laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

AndrewAV's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:23 PM
Edited by AndrewAV on Wed 06/17/09 07:23 PM



HOW IS THIS SUPPOSED TO STOP THINGS OR HELP???

It means the FED will be above the law and there won't be much chance of them being investigated or audited.

BHO lining his retirement a little more?


No it doesn'tslaphead

Hey go ahead with the hate fest

I am done here.

Nobody wants to study up on it or actually UNDERSTAND IT so I will let ya'll have your unjustified hate fest.

Some people, geezzzzz


I have a degree in business and I'm working on a bachelor's in economics as well. I fully understand what is happening.

now, have you formally studied business, economics, or finance to the point you have an understanding how all this works?

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 06/17/09 07:24 PM
scared I'm just wondering if his name is really oasbama and what it means for this country if it isscared

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 06/18/09 08:19 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 06/18/09 08:20 AM
The FED was set in motion in 1913 to "END" recession and depression by regulation.

They swore their system of banking/banks would insure our economy and the country would never see a great depression again.....guess what?

Instead of destroying a working 200 year old Constitution and Bill of Rights, financing wars based on lies we can't afford, how about abolishing a system that has now been proven not to work and failed us more times than not in less than 100 years?

Yep, BHO is a brain trust for sure! He should have been a car salesman and our auto makers might not be going down the tubes. Instead, he was a lawyer (if I'm not mistaken) for ACORN and supported Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac business dealings. think


adj4u's photo
Thu 06/18/09 08:32 AM

The FED was set in motion in 1913 to "END" recession and depression by regulation.

They swore their system of banking/banks would insure our economy and the country would never see a great depression again.....guess what?

Instead of destroying a working 200 year old Constitution and Bill of Rights, financing wars based on lies we can't afford, how about abolishing a system that has now been proven not to work and failed us more times than not in less than 100 years?

Yep, BHO is a brain trust for sure! He should have been a car salesman and our auto makers might not be going down the tubes. Instead, he was a lawyer (if I'm not mistaken) for ACORN and supported Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac business dealings. think




yep 16 years later people were jumping to their death as the market collapsed and the country entered the worst depression it has experienced so far

but that may be about to change now that the fed just got more abuse power

it is a sad time in the history of the u s and it has been ever since the fed has been in power

has anyone checked the tax table before the fed

the fed is a debt based system and you can not get out of debt by borrowing more thus the debt is ever increasing thus more taxes are need to pay the debt (the u s pay te fed interest on the money it creates [yes creates out of thin air] yep)

think about it

just a thought

but hey

what do i know

Giocamo's photo
Thu 06/18/09 09:51 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Thu 06/18/09 09:51 AM


....The Obama plan would give new powers to the Federal Reserve to oversee the entire financial system .......


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama proposed sweeping new “rules of the road” for the nation’s financial system Wednesday, casting the changes as a critically important response to the economic crisis and the greatest regulatory transformation since the Great Depression.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31403945/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/


I guess none of the posters here were listening to his earlier speeches where he said this needs to be done to stop the root cause of the housing crisis again, huh?

So this is nothing new and nothing that needs to be feared.

It is needed so we do not have the same problem again with the greed that happened from deregulation.


Come on folks.

Set the hatred down long enough to see the real picture.


he's a naked marxist...a stateist...his words mean absolutely nothing...he's just reading them off a teleprompter...written by someone else...this guys a disaster...he has no fuggin' clue !!...bring back Bush...bring back Bush...ohhhhhhhhhhhh for the 50's...:cry:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 06/18/09 10:29 AM



....The Obama plan would give new powers to the Federal Reserve to oversee the entire financial system .......


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama proposed sweeping new “rules of the road” for the nation’s financial system Wednesday, casting the changes as a critically important response to the economic crisis and the greatest regulatory transformation since the Great Depression.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31403945/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/


I guess none of the posters here were listening to his earlier speeches where he said this needs to be done to stop the root cause of the housing crisis again, huh?

So this is nothing new and nothing that needs to be feared.

It is needed so we do not have the same problem again with the greed that happened from deregulation.


Come on folks.

Set the hatred down long enough to see the real picture.


he's a naked marxist...a stateist...his words mean absolutely nothing...he's just reading them off a teleprompter...written by someone else...this guys a disaster...he has no fuggin' clue !!...bring back Bush...bring back Bush...ohhhhhhhhhhhh for the 50's...:cry:


Advance to the rear????? If so let's make it to the Kennedy days. He may have been a womanizer but he never put corporate or corrupt powers above the people! He hated the FED, and the IRS as it was. It got him killed!

Bush was a disaster.... he did whatever Cheney and his crew told him to! Couldn't read, couldn't write, had no brain, a perfect Wall Street/FED puppet!

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