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Topic: Quadriplegic Marine denied free entrance to amusement park
franshade's photo
Wed 06/17/09 11:44 AM
Boy talk about having to make a decision???

hmmm, should I believe this person who claims the other person is a quadriplegic? this person cannot eat/talk and is fully dependent on the aid of another, hmmm this is hard.

Should I believe this quad is a veteran? Hmmmm another hard one - doesn't matter this person is just being brought along for the fresh air and to for morale purposes (just guessing)

Should I allow his nurse in? Hmmmm I am getting a headache, if I allow the nurse, that would mean I am saying this person is a quadraplegic, what to do???????

How can I be sure she won't sneak in a ride or two? Hmmm I don't want to make decisions - ggeeezzz louise, like park employees do not allow friends/family members in for free (just guessing)

What to do??? When in doubt, ask your supervisor. Will my supervisor see this as a management decision I have made??? or will it impede on my moving up the corp ladder :ladder:

this is just how I think (not saying it's right nor wrong) but the park wants to make money, how about improving the customer service employees training.

I see this a family or a group, has maybe (1 or more) handicapped person/people in their midst. Why not extend a courtesy??? make your park more handicap accessible and accommodating. those things can increase income more than the entry fee.


yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/17/09 11:45 AM
fran...on the same note...why should the family just assume??? why not call ahead?

franshade's photo
Wed 06/17/09 11:48 AM
agreed they should have.

But when faced with a situation like this, if you are not in the position to make a decision, stand aside and have upper management step in - diffuse situation.

But I still believe in Santa Claus flowerforyou


yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/17/09 11:49 AM
I'm the tooth fairy laugh

ThomasJB's photo
Wed 06/17/09 11:50 AM
Edited by ThomasJB on Wed 06/17/09 11:50 AM
Then I get to be the boogy man. devil :laughing:

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/17/09 11:50 AM

Then I get to be the boogy man. devil :laughing:


pfft...that's a given laugh

franshade's photo
Wed 06/17/09 12:24 PM

I'm the tooth fairy laugh


NO you're not tongue2

no photo
Wed 06/17/09 01:19 PM
You never know how venues are going to treat a disabled person. I always have to call ahead when I take my daughter somewhere (she is in a wheelchair) and get my tickets through a different route. More often than not there is no discount even if she can't participate in most of the activities offered.

I just bought tickets to a Wiggles concert and had to pay premium price even though I wanted balcony tickets because the only disabled seating was down near the floor. I had no other option but to pay 40 dollars per ticket when I could have paid something like 17 for higher up.

I also don't take advantage of disabled parking unless she is in the car with us and it's very hard to find parking for my big 'ole van at times.

It's a fine line people play with the disabled label sometimes. I'm glad the park offered tickets later, but you all are right, they should have called ahead.

Totage's photo
Wed 06/17/09 01:32 PM


Family angry when paralyzed Marine Joshua Hoffman is denied free entrance to Michigan's Adventure
by Ted Roelofs | The Grand Rapids Press
Wednesday June 17, 2009, 8:45 AM

Quadriplegic former Marine Joshua Hoffman waited in a van at Michigan's Adventure, hoping to see fiancee Heather Lovell in the park for an hour or two. Her father, Rockford resident Joel Lovell, explained to park staff that Hoffman is paralyzed and cannot talk. He assumed Hoffman would be admitted free.

But Lovell was told he would have to pay admission for Hoffman and the nurse tending to his medical needs. No exceptions.

"He went to Iraq for all of us and took a bullet in the neck. He sacrificed everything for his country," Joel Lovell said.

"I was just kind of stunned."

According to Heather Lovell, she and Hoffman planned to rendezvous from their home near Middleville on May 29 at the Muskegon County park, before heading to Reed City for the high school graduation of Hoffman's stepbrother.

Lovell had gone ahead to act as chaperone for a niece and others on a school outing. Joel Lovell picked up Hoffman and his nurse and headed for the park.

But Heather Lovell said she got a call from her father telling her to come to the park entrance.

"It was really just outrageous," she said. "He is not physically going on any rides. To me, this is very personal."

Hoffman, 27, was paralyzed from the chest down when he was hit by a sniper's bullet in Iraq in January 2007. He spent more than a year in a Virginia Veterans Administration hospital before coming home in March 2008.

He and Lovell, 22, share a specially equipped house with 24-hour nursing staff to assist Hoffman.

Camille Jourden-Mark, general manager of Michigan's Adventure, said park policy does not allow any non-participants in free.

"We just can't be in a position of picking and choosing. We have grandparents (who pay admission) that come in our park every day that have no intention of ever going on a ride.

"It's not based on the level of participation."

On Tuesday, Jourden-Mark offered complementary passes for Hoffman and a guest to Michigan's Adventure in response to the issue. Lovell said she has not decided whether she and Hoffman will use the passes.

"You want to be appreciative of it, but it took a lot of people complaining to them to realize what kind of mistake they had made," Lovell said. "We weren't looking for a free trip. It's just a problem with the policy."

Jourden-Mark said company policy is meant to shield employees from accusations of discrimination, but added "there are times when we make exceptions and this is definitely one of those times."

She noted the park offers one free admission with a paid admission for service members each Memorial Day. Jourden-Mark said park staff were unaware of Hoffman's condition.

"I don't think anybody was really aware that he was a veteran."

That's not what Joel Lovell, 54, recalled.

"I told (a park official) it is really a crummy policy. I explained that he is an Iraq veteran. He got shot in the neck and can't eat or talk. I thought they were joking."

Lovell said he initially was told he would have to pay the adult admission fee of $25 each for Hoffman and the nurse, then was offered a student discount.

Heather Lovell's sister, Belding resident Rebecca Lovell, said she contacted the park Friday to complain.

"I explained the extent of his injuries, that he was simply going for an hour or two.

"(A park official) said there was no proof of his injury. He could be faking it. She said if we let him come in for free, then we have to change our policy."

"I was absolutely blown away."

-- Press reporter Jacob Carpenter contributed to this story.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/06/family_angry_when_paralyzed_ma.html



So they wanted a discount and they're mad because they didn't get one?

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