I was not shounting I miss the I I eant I take that back I am sorry
but there were 3 not 4

meant typo

I did not mean to yell at you I am truely sorry but i also know
there were only 3 emails like I said

wonderdude chill out you're trippin over trivial things...do not go
about emailing others here to convert them, it gets you blocked and
banned.

invisible,

I have never called someone a liar because of their interpretation of
scripture. I have called people liars when I thought they were lying,
but not when I thought they were just wrong.

See, you can't call anybody anything without proof beyond doubt.
Just mind what you are saying sometimes.
I do think if you left all this anger behind you, the urge to be right
every time, no matter what, we could get on quite well.
I have my own beliefs, I got there by strange paths, I was on the door
to death twice, so if I talk about MY belief, I know where I'm coming
from.

Spider~~

The Catholic Bible says "Thou shall not kill".
The Hebrew version says "Thou shall not murder".

Invisible,

I'm sure we could get along, but we won't. I'll show you why. I have
linked a thread below. In re-reading the thread, I feel that I was
unfairly attacked by two people. When I responded in kind to them, you
attacked me too. Jess642 saying that I insulted her, but ignoring my
repeated explainations of what I was saying. Adventure begins claiming
that I told him to stop posting. It just goes on and on. I didn't
start the trouble, but I quickly found myself being attacked for every
post I made in the thread. I admit, I got nasty there towards the end,
but I always make it a rule to give better than I get and I was getting
beaten like an old rug.

I really don't think you would back me up if something like that
happened agian, so I doubt we will get along, but I will definitely try.

http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/22168?page=1

And by this very post is your words of apologie shown to be words from
the lip.

You spoke in peace at the end of that thread.

Have you now rent the veil of falshood from that peace. That we may see
the truth.

thus the crusades begin again...

wow thought he was leaving

me?

I believe she meant Spider, DaVinci

sororitygurl4life,

I was going to, but some very nice people asked me to stay. If my posts
bother you, you can easily ignore them.

GhostWhisperer,

Made a very powerful statement about different translations of some of
the holy books (how true). Sometimes misunderstandings stems from people
looking at part of a picture instead of the whole picture.

Did you ever go to an art gallery and find yourself standing to close to
a painting? Well beliefs can be the same way. Sometimes we stand so
close to a particular part that we miss the bigger meaning.

In the original writings of many books, you can see that the writers
didn't (for example) cut off a thought at the same place as the people
who copied it. When you look at the same writing in the original it is
surprising at times that the writer meant something completely different
than the translation. This is where judgment comes in. It is also where
a lot of arguments come in. This is nothing new though, and it didn't
start on JSH. It's just a matter of fact.

Wise men and women for thousands of years have sat down together so that
they may reason, not argue with each other about the words that have
been written for our benefit.

There are even writers who have said that if you do not have the words,
that the words will be placed in your heart. Many Missionaries who the
Churches sent out to convert arrived at places and found that the people
there where much closer to God, or in touch with themselves than the
missionaries who where actually sent to convert them.

I could go on and on, but this is just a little food for thought.

We can all live in peace if we choose to.

love, and peace,

michael

Spider, when someone makes a comment on their belief, it is just a
coment about their belief. Now they may make a comment about why they
believe as they do, maybe by quoting a scripture. If you see error in
their interpretation, I see absolutely no reason why you should not be
able to say something about how you interpret the same scripture and
why. However, when you do so, it might be wise to add an amenity, like,
'that's a view I hadn't heard, I always thought ....." This opens the
door for discussion, rather than closing a fist for the first swing.

Likewise, when any view a post by spider or wonderman or any other
Christian, promoting their opinion, it should be considered and
responded to with the same respect. "Well, not sure how you came by
that knowledge, because I always thought...." Again door for disussion.

As for wonderman. You have mentioned a couple, few times that God, in
some way, either passes on information to or through you, and even in
this post you mention that you KNOW FOR A FACT, ... because God has
revealed it or himself to you. Please remeber that, no matter how much
you believe this, no matter how much you want others to see/know/believe
as you do, YOU are not going to be the one to ever make it happen. It
is a personal issue, and ANYONE truely seeking God, will ultimately
determine what they want to believe, without your unrequested help.
Remember, that there are vastly more Christians out there who have NOT
had your personal experience, yet believe as faithfully and as strongly
as you do. Because yo have experienced whatever you have, does not make
you the first, middle or last word in anyone's "personal" decision.
Help those who ask for it. Anything else is just discussion, as
outlined above.

We are all learning so much, and sometimes the lesson is not about
religion, it is about the amenities. In fact I have learned much more
that I ever thought I neede to know, and I don't want anyone to feel
'converged' on and stop posting.

No disclaimers should ever be necessary in true discussion. Perhaps a
futher explanation may be in order, but it is up to both the poster and
the one who takes offense to continue the discussion with respectful
words, not with defensive or offenseive remarks. A truth, like a
science experiment, may in fact show someone was in error, but it is not
a reason to celebrate the error, or to do to the "Snoopy" dance, becasue
you proved someone wrong.

Remembering that faith, is a belief in something for which there is no
scientific evidence. Miracles are believed through faith, for they can
not be reproduced by us, or they would not be miracles.

The following is a test, it is only a test, do not attempt control the
volume, do attempt to control your emotions and think, "if I saw this in
a post, how should I respond"

** I think one of the greatest failures of humanity, was the creation
of any organized or standardized religion **

Well - anyone want to try to pass that test, base on my entire post?

you rock woman!

Thanks Bl8ant - is that a chocolate donut?

mg~~

I agree. I think more can be learned & shared if we are open-minded &
non-judgemental. As I have said before, I have many friends who do not
walk the same path as I do, yet we can have deep meaningful
conversations & everyone learns more about each other. I think that is
the way we come to see the whole picture. It does not happen when there
is name calling & some of the other issues that happen all too often in
this forum. Forcing or insisting that people see things a certain way
simply because a person thinks they are right does not work. It only
alienates those being spoken to.

I posted the kill-vs-murder thing because I had checked in my versions
of the Bible & found the difference. It was posted that it was thought
that only the KJV said kill. So I felt the need to check & find out.


Last night I did some thinking & a lot meditating. I came to the
conclusion that there are some in here who will always go out of their
way to cause issues & I will, from now on, no longer feed into their
"games". I will not allow anything said by them, toward me, to bother me
as I will always consider the source. It reminds me of a spoiled child
demanding attention, once that attention is not given, they cease to act
out. I prefer to have discussions that increase knowledge &
understanding of others.


Peace, love & wisdom

GhostWhisperer,

Your so right, especially on this of all forums. If a person can not be
at peace here they will never be at peace anywhere.

"Love and peace" is the message period! People who jump right into
doctrine, before "living" the basics, are called a pretty bad name
(which I won't say here) in many holy books.

I'm glad your here,

michael