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Topic: The Science of how thoughts control life
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Fri 06/12/09 12:12 AM

I actually wanted to write a novel about a scientist... Well if anything, just by posting this idea (if not already taken) I am sure there will be someone who will take the idea and get busy to become the next New York's Bestseller.

It wouldn't be the first time this happens to melaugh

I think you should go for it (before anyone else does)!
Though its regretable that it is impossible to pattent the ideas as intellectual propperties! (unfortunately, such a preposterous idea would effectively halt the progress!)

As far as I know, Sleep Deprivation is one ofthe worst tortures! Apparantly, some amino-acids are secreeted by one of the organs that send a signal to the brain, "GO TO SLEEP". A magic potion that would prevent such a secreetion would be a real breakthrough!
Though, a Phisiology professional would provide you with greater detals on the matter... (but for this idea alone I'd appreciate if you cut me in for 25% of the royalties!) laugh :wink:

In the meantime, I suggest you stop sharing any more details about the matter, just in case -- keep it strictly between us! shades

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Fri 06/12/09 12:40 AM

The Biology of Belief

Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter and Miracles

This book will forever change how you think about your own thinking. Stunning new scienfitic discoveries about the biochemical effects of the brain's functioning show that all the cells of your obdy are affected by your thoughts. Bruce H. Lipton, Ph.D., a renowned cell biologist, describes the precise molecular pathways through which this occurs. Using simple language, illustrations, humor, and everyday examples, he demonstrates how the new science of Epigenetics is revolutionizing our understanding of the link between mind and matter and the profound effects it has on our personal lives and the collective life of our species.


It is a great book to pick up the next time you go shopping. I have just started reading it and find it interesting to learn how our mind and body works in a scientifical way. There are alot of living cells in us ensuring our well being. You would be surprised how much our thoughts can influence these little cells in a profound way.

What are your thoughts about this?




bigsmile Its called the Law Of Attractionhappy

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Fri 06/12/09 01:15 AM
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Thinkin bout this.........

Goodnight!!

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Fri 06/12/09 05:39 AM



lots weird stuff

90% of all thought is subconcious and controlled by emotion and id




OK, I guess I'll have a "Forbidden Planet" discussion with myself.

The movie is about the fact that 90% of thought is subconscious and controlled by emotion and ID. The Krill (dead aliens) built a machine to amplify the power of the mind so the Krill could go about their lives completely without the need for instrumentality (I love that word). The Krill used the core of their planet to provide infinite power to the mind amplifier.

Unfortunately, as is known by man today, the subconscious is way more powerful than the conscious and is largely controlled by emotion. With unlimited power, 'monsters from the ID' would destroy us all.

With a little focus and practice, we can harness the vast power of our ID and use it to help us succeed in life today... No planet sized amplifier required.

'Monsters from the ID' is playing at a theater near you.

http://www.monstersfromtheid.net/


Cool. I will check out that moviedrinker


I've queued it up in Netflix...

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Fri 06/12/09 11:06 AM
Edited by smiless on Fri 06/12/09 11:07 AM


I actually wanted to write a novel about a scientist... Well if anything, just by posting this idea (if not already taken) I am sure there will be someone who will take the idea and get busy to become the next New York's Bestseller.

It wouldn't be the first time this happens to melaugh

I think you should go for it (before anyone else does)!
Though its regretable that it is impossible to pattent the ideas as intellectual propperties! (unfortunately, such a preposterous idea would effectively halt the progress!)

As far as I know, Sleep Deprivation is one ofthe worst tortures! Apparantly, some amino-acids are secreeted by one of the organs that send a signal to the brain, "GO TO SLEEP". A magic potion that would prevent such a secreetion would be a real breakthrough!
Though, a Phisiology professional would provide you with greater detals on the matter... (but for this idea alone I'd appreciate if you cut me in for 25% of the royalties!) laugh :wink:

In the meantime, I suggest you stop sharing any more details about the matter, just in case -- keep it strictly between us! shades



Writing it would be enjoyable. It would be even more enjoyable if I had a scientific mind full of information on how the brain functions let alone the body beyond my basic understandings.

Once I written such a story then we worry about publishing it. That is a whole new can of worms to worry about. Which grumpy and miserable editor or publisher will even read the first two lines of your story? In today's times if one didn't have sex with the president or president's wife, discovered an alternative to quicker space flight, or run 2 miles in 4 minutes then the chances are as good as trying to win the local lottery unless you are somekind of superstar already, yet if I ever do publish a book in such a magnitude in my lifetime then 25% of royalty shares will come your waylaugh drinker

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Tue 06/16/09 12:43 AM



I actually wanted to write a novel about a scientist... Well if anything, just by posting this idea (if not already taken) I am sure there will be someone who will take the idea and get busy to become the next New York's Bestseller.

It wouldn't be the first time this happens to melaugh

I think you should go for it (before anyone else does)!
Though its regretable that it is impossible to pattent the ideas as intellectual propperties! (unfortunately, such a preposterous idea would effectively halt the progress!)

As far as I know, Sleep Deprivation is one ofthe worst tortures! Apparantly, some amino-acid, DOPAMINE is secreeted by one of the organs that send a signal to the brain, "GOTO SLEEP". A magic potion that would prevent such a secreetion would be a real breakthrough!
Though, a Phisiology professional would provide you with greater detals on the matter... (but for this idea alone I'd appreciate if you cut me in for 25% of the royalties!) laugh :wink:

In the meantime, I suggest you stop sharing any more details about the matter, just in case -- keep it strictly between us! shades



Writing it would be enjoyable. It would be even more enjoyable if I had a scientific mind full of information on how the brain functions let alone the body beyond my basic understandings.

Once I written such a story then we worry about publishing it. That is a whole new can of worms to worry about. Which grumpy and miserable editor or publisher will even read the first two lines of your story? In today's times if one didn't have sex with the president or president's wife, discovered an alternative to quicker space flight, or run 2 miles in 4 minutes then the chances are as good as trying to win the local lottery unless you are somekind of superstar already, yet if I ever do publish a book in such a magnitude in my lifetime then 25% of royalty shares will come your waylaugh drinker

*** Oh, thank you very much, dear, for accepting my modest offer! I was afraid your depiction of the horrors (associted with publishing the book) were meant for me, i.e. to reduce my expectatiions... In return, I'm going make you a deal:
instead of 25%, I agree for just 23.9%, laugh which is quite generous -- considering my involvement in the ptoject: :smoking:
1. consultant's fee! {after all, I have a few tricks up my sleeve..}
2. my assistance with the sleeping arrangements might come in handy -- regarding your comment about the difficulties associated with publishing... (I am not sure whether the president's wife can be talked into sleeping with me, but I'm sure the president won't be able to resist my charm... laugh

So, here are a few more ideas to consider:
1. THALAMUS is a paired symetrical part of the brain that is known to relay and integrate the sensory information impulses to the Cerebral Cortex for interpretation.
Together with HYPOTALAMUS, the THALAMUS establishes levels of sleep & wakefulness. It secretes the chemical DOPAMINE into the brain that makes us goto sleep... Thus, some remedy against such seretion of that chemical (or some sort of a blocking mechanizm -- preventing the chemical from entering the brain -- must be devised.. avoiding the usual side effects!)

However, our plans might be a bit premature because
scientists have discovered that the patterns of the molecular evolution in many of the human genes DO NOT contain signals of Natural Selection! * * *
According to Matthew Webster of the Department of Medical Biochemistry & Microbiology at Uppsala University, "the research not only increases our understanding of Human evolution, but also suggest that many techniques used by evolutionary biologists to detect selection MAY BE FLAWED"!!! * * * Another words, SOME OF THE GENES APPEAR TO BE BUILT-IN***

The working model of our endeavor has to take these discoveries into consideration... For if it will be confirmed -- that some genes are Built-in -- then the next question would be BY WHOM? ? ? * * *

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Tue 06/16/09 06:46 AM
Edited by smiless on Tue 06/16/09 06:56 AM
Tell me how it goes when you have slept with the president will yalaugh

Thankyou for the lesson on sensory information impulses. It would be very interesting to know how Dopamine could be stopped if it is truly the chemical that is responsible for making us tired and sleepy. (As you have mentioned) If only we could figure out a way to understand our sensory abilities and how to (control them) so certain chemicals cannot be produced then perhaps sleeping wouldn't be neccessary anymore.

As you know around the world people use all kinds of various drugs approved by a drug administration or not to try to stay awake longer then what are body's are accustomed to. I don't think that is a good way to go, but these individuals have to keep two jobs just to have basic neccessities in some of these countries. Just go to Taiwain and you will see many young folks hooked on drugs to stay awake. It truly is sad to watch this as a visitor of the country.

If there was a natural remedy that wouldn't produce side effects and destruction to the mind and body then that would be ideal for those who don't value sleep and rather use the time to explore and study more then the usual. I could imagine if such a remedy could be found we might be technologically more advance in the end. Hopefully in a good way too! It makes you wonder if aliens already are doing this today doesn't it.

I could imagine that governments are looking into various technologies (aside from pharmeceutical experiments) such as perhaps transcranial magnetic stimulation to obtain a better way to avoid needed sleep for their soldiers. Many who join only get a few hours of sleep each day anyway, especially those out in the field or in war zones.

Just imagine what that would mean if such an invention was discovered. I sense you have a scientists mind. Perhaps you will come up with a resolution!

I mean it could lead to where we could have the ability to function at a high level without sleeping much — or at all — for long periods.

Medical residents wouldn’t have to worry about misdiagnosing emergency-room patients because their cognitive faculties have been reduced to goo by brutally long shifts.

Truck drivers could pull coast-to-coast runs without slowing down, except for an occasional pie-and-coffee break.

Ambitious people could hold two full-time jobs at once and simultaneously earn multiple Ph.D.s.laugh Exxagerated I know! laugh

Scientists can probably discover more at a faster rate in all branches available to us.

But then again what about the possible downsides?

Perhaps unemployment would be higher since corporations would have small staff (knowing they don't need sleep) working for their profits.

Hotels and Motels would be called Stop-In-Quicky-Tell?? lol

but on a serious side one would have to consider such questions as:

Would this create a larger case of obesity, diabetes, hypertension and depression?

Would reducing or eliminating sleep cause an epidemic of related health problems?

What sort of effects would it have on our personalities and social interactions?

With all that additional time to read blogs and watch 24-hour cable news, would we all suffer from mega information overload — or worse yet, become so insufferably well-informed on every subject that we’d bore each other to death?

So should scientists develop wakefulness drugs and technology to their logical extreme? Or should we keep on snoozing?

I do admit that it sounds very interesting. It almost touches the brink of being immortal if you think about it. You actually feel like you have lived 200 years worth of life instead of the 100 if one didn't have to sleep. (Of course in actuality one would live an actual 100 years not missing out 1/3 of it on sleep like you have mentioned.

What it is worth, I could imagine if anything, it would make a great fiction novel for people to imagine the possiblities.

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Tue 06/16/09 10:48 PM
Edited by HANDLEWITHCAUTION on Tue 06/16/09 11:06 PM

Tell me how it goes when you have slept with the president will yalaugh

Well, I don't usually "Sleep & Tell", but in your case -- since we're partners -- I'll make an exclusion (if & when I ever get to sleep with the president...)

Now that you pointed it out, I understand the wide spread appeal and far reaching applications for such a remedy:
..around the world people use all kinds of various drugs approved by a drug administration or not to try to stay awake longer then what are body's are accustomed to.. these individuals have to keep two jobs just to have basic neccessities in some of these countries. Just go to Taiwain and you will see many young folks hooked on drugs to stay awake.
If there was a natural remedy that wouldn't produce side effects and destruction to the mind and body then that would be ideal for those who don't value sleep and rather use the time to explore and study more then the usual.
Medical residents wouldn’t have to worry about misdiagnosing emergency-room patients because their cognitive faculties have been reduced to goo by brutally long shifts.
Truck drivers could pull coast-to-coast runs without slowing down, except for an occasional pie-and-coffee break.
Ambitious people could hold two full-time jobs at once and simultaneously earn multiple Ph.D.s.laugh Exxagerated I know! laugh
Scientists can probably discover more at a faster rate in all branches available to us.


Certainly, I haven't given a thought to all possible implications of the Mirracle pill: apparently, certain safeguards will be necessary... (Price being one of those limitations, making the pill available only as a prescription drug... thereby avoiding some/all of the problems you noted:

Perhaps unemployment would be higher since corporations would have small staff (knowing they don't need sleep) working for their profits.

Hotels and Motels would be called Stop-In-Quicky-Tell?? lol

Would this create a larger case of obesity, diabetes, hypertension and depression?

Would reducing or eliminating sleep cause an epidemic of related health problems?

What sort of effects would it have on our personalities and social interactions?

With all that additional time to read blogs and watch 24-hour cable news, would we all suffer from mega information overload — or worse yet, become so insufferably well-informed on every subject that we’d bore each other to death?

Though, the benefits would outweigh the disadvantages:
It almost touches the brink of being immortal if you think about it. You actually feel like you have lived 200 years worth of life instead of the 100 if one didn't have to sleep. (Of course in actuality one would live an actual 100 years not missing out 1/3 of it on sleep like you have mentioned.


However, there seem to be more far reaching implications:
I haven't researched the subject completely -- just barely skimed over... But, from what I've seen, the problem goes much more deeper than just preventing secretion of Dopamine... ***It appears to be essential to the normal functioning of the Central Nervous System since Dopamine's Reduction in the brain is associated with Parkinson's desease -- when some of the neurons are destroyed, the trembling ensues... ***
On the other hand, Too much of Dopamine leads to Schizophrenia!***

The gist of the matter seems to be in preserving the golden Ballance! (not too much, or not enough...)
Nevertheless, I agree:
What it is worth, I could imagine if anything, it would make a great fiction novel for people to imagine the possiblities.

Though, a lot more research would have to be done -- to make the novel really captivating...

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