Wasn't someone just making fun of someone who does roids here? And I didn't see anyone defending the roid users. But if someone makes negative comments about someone overweight, how much you want to bet people will jump all over them? How bout someone who's egotistical, it's acceptable to make fun of them (people don't defend them very often either)?

Why is it okay to not date someone because you'd prefer someone smarter (or someone with a different personality) but tell the community here you don't want to date a person cause they're overweight and people think you're a douchebag.

I'm not saying it should be okay to make fun of people but you have to admit there's a greater level of societal acceptability with making fun of a person who acts like a moron (like when Brittany spears went nuts, Lindsey Lohan became a drunk skank) vs someone's weight.

If you want to get in shape, that's an admirable goal, if you don't want to, that's also fine. I just find it a bit irritating when people overweight complain that potential suitors don't like them because they are overweight, and then everyone bashes those people as being shallow and egotistical as if it's wrong to have a preference. If you love your body, love your body and who cares what other people say about it. If you want to change it, then you have to work at it.

If those comments hurt someone, then maybe they do want to change and they should be encouraged in a non hurtful way. They shouldn't just be told that everyone else is a jerk that's just going to kill their motivation.

It's been said women are more empathetic, and men are more solution oriented, that's probably where our differences in opinions lie. Someone's weight is their own business, but it's a choice, people choose to be overweight or in shape. Complaining or feeling bad about it just doesn't really help the situation.

I know several sides of it. My sister is built like my mom's side of the family...they are obese. i am built like my dad's....stick figures.

we used to get compared all the time along with jokes. I got teased for being too skinny and my sister for being fat.

the jokes hurt no matter what. if someone isn't attracted to one side...that is fine, but the cruel jokes and comments are hurtful. joking around about some one being over weight isn't right...same as joking about someone skinny, or based on looks. there is more to people than just looks

there are many reasons for the way people are built. and the grass isn't greener on the other side.

don't judge a book by it's cover

Did you turn down someone who was overweight and they got upset about it? Is that why it bothers you that people are saying it shouldn't be ok to make fun of someone's weight? Just curious, because you seem to have thought about this a lot.

yes. we are jealous of the flabby body. and most of all we are jealous of the feeble mindstate and lack of control in their lives.

be seeing you.

What makes you think that people that are overweight are of a "feeble mindstate" and "lack control in their lives"?

lol i feel sry 4 ya than

wow..I'm actually speechless

I think they are just mean spirited people, if you observe this it is best to stay away from that type of person.

I think what geektothetenth is saying is that he's tired of the double standard. Its socially acceptable to make fun of someone for drug usage or stupidity, but not because of something like their weight. There's an episode of south park where the boys are sent to the museum of tolerance to learn that its wrong to insult people because of their ethnicities, but then outside they treat a smoker like absolute crap. Hope I'm not putting words in your mouth geek.

Ive been all weights, heavy, model thin, inbetween. I dont mind anyones size. I dont think its anyones business someone elses weight really. I am attracted to a certain type usually, Im really not into extremely muscle bound dudes, but its usually theyre wierd obsessive type attitudes, (life dedicated to working out, eating, whatever.)

Whats the problem really with people so worried about someone elses size?

People dont get pissed cos someone has brown, or blue, or green eyes usually...

I dont blame anyone for not being attracted to someone but to slam people because of theyre weight, or WHATEVER, cos they cant spell well.. thats sad..

Im overweight.. I dont mind being referred to as a fat chick.. when I worked out, my weight training friends called me a muscle head, when I was real thin, they said I was skinny. ok..

But there are boundries in all of this. Im not perfect, but I try my best not to be mean.

AND I dont choose men who are wierd about weight.. Ive not had a problem with anyone i wanted excluding me cos of my weight, but i wouldnt be hurt, id just be like.. um ok.. wierd.. NEXT!!

Wouldn't going to the gym show that they are trying to take control of it?

No, I just think about things like perceptions, societal conventions and stuff like that quite a bit.

Yes, euphoric, that's mainly the point I was making.

Sometimes I think that society has become too feminized in certain ways, like everyone has to be coddled treated with a light touch as to spare their feelings. Is it advantageous to be very overweight (I'm not talking about a few extra pounds but like morbidly obese).

Whatever people want to do to their bodies is fine, but I live in philly which has a high rate of obesity. You don't really see 2 healthy skinny parents with fat kids. Young kids don't know better and can't cook, and obese parents that eat unhealthy and are completely sedentary are hurting their kids. It's a problem because of how we gain weight, fat cells never go away, they can shrink but if you have a lot of fat cells losing weight is harder so obesity in adults is usually linked with obesity in childhood.

I don't think most obese people like being that way, who wants to struggle to walk a single city block or have trouble getting out of a chair. If you came up with a pill that would instantly make an obese person trim and fit, don't you think most would take that pill?

I don't think it's good to just pick on people, but I also don't think that everyone should walk on egg shells and use euphemisms for fear of being too honest.

Just look at the terms people use "big" people, it's not big people (that could be like Shaq) and people damn well know that's not what they mean, they mean fat people but can't say it cause it might hurt someone's feelings. Like teachers can't fail students anymore cause it'll hurt their self esteem. One district I read about didn't want teachers to use red ink cause it might hurt the student's feelings. Some empathy is good, but to the point where people start feeling that their flaws aren't flaws and it's everyone else's problem and not theirs, I don't think that that is empowering to a person.

Personally I have no problems with people that work out at the gym. The problem I have is when they let you know that they do work out.

The type of job I have keeps me fairly trim, but I'm definitely not Mr. Muscles. :-)

Rick

My mom is overweight through no fault of her own. She broke her ankle very badly. She's been through several surgeries for it. She can hardly walk. Now she's gotten very heavy. She eats healthy but can't move around.

Sorry to hear that, and of course there are certain health exceptions that people have no control over, like thyroid issues affecting their metabolism, or a mental problem like addiction to food. But these constitute the very small minority.

Is she getting any rehab at the same time? Like water exercise treatments or anything? Or electro stimulation to slow down muscle atrophy?

who knows why someone is over weight, skinny, muscles. it's no one business IMO...and the jokes about it are wrong.

example...the muscle men...maybe they were the skinny little kid that got picked on as a child.

there are many reasons for things and shouldn't be made fun of

She's been through it all. She's trying exercises in the pool at the Y now.

BINGO!

hit a cycle show em what musclessss are about

I lift weights