This from General Lynch in Iraq today:
General Lynch explained his task.

"Public enemy No. 1," he growled, "is still al Qaeda. ... They are evil,
pure evil. He has no respect for human life and doesn't care who he's
killing."

Iranian "influence," he said, is supporting both Iran's sectarian allies
in the Shiite militias and their sectarian enemies in the Sunni
insurgency. Munitions with Iranian markings have turned up in caches
captured from both groups.

He knows why he's fighting. Days ago, insurgents had blown up a minibus
carrying women and children near Mahmoudiya. At least eight died at the
scene, and four others were dreadfully wounded.

"My soldiers and me are here to ensure my children and their children
back home aren't going to be afraid of getting blown up when they get on
a bus," he said. "That's going to happen right there in the United
States if we don't fight this fight right here, right now."

"I am convinced of that."

If we are fighting Iran in Iraq we should ask the questions:

If we leave Iraq without solving the problems, would that mean we
actually lost a war to Iran?

If we are fighting a war with Iran, shouldn't we attack them and get it
over with?

Fanta, I invite you to stay out of this thread since you can add nothing
to it. It is clear you would prefer to hand over Iraq to the insurgents
so let's not argue here and let some others have a say.

So we only want comments from those that agree?

Ha ha, no that's not it. I'll argue with you all day Davinci. I just
don't want to argue with Fanta anymore, besides he tends to drive the
topic off into a neverland of starry eyed wonder. Actually I expect him
to weigh in here too. He won't be able to resits I expect. I'm just
messing with him a little here. Good natured ribbing, don't take too
much offense Fanta.

The reality is that I am concerned that Iran wants anything that will
threaten, damage or destroy the United States, and I tend to like
American more than most other countries.

Some people do not consider other countries to be a threat to the United
States and think that so long as we mind our own business nobody will
mess with us. I'm not one of those people.

Human nature has a strong component of desire for advancing yourself and
your own kind. The US has it and I am an example I'm sure. Iran has it
too. There is a pull and tug going on and we are a part of it whether we
like it or not.

It takes two to dance, but only one to fight. When two countries are
together and one wants to fight, there will be a fight. Who on here
thinks they can stop the anti American rhetoric in Iran and solve Iraq
by acceptance and respect, besides Fanta of course?

Who on the other hand, recognizes the inevitability of war when one
country is determined to fight whether the other country desires it or
not?

it is not the country

it is the islamic extremist

it does not matter whetre they

are from

they have been attacking the united states since the 1700s

it aint never gona stop

and they started it and brag that they will carry it on

but hey what do i know

robin is right, its not the country, its the idealogy. people get it
confused.

i'll gladly fight the crazy people wheever they want to fight, whether
it is in iraq iran afganistan, or where ever. the idealogy of
intolerance and opression to me is wrong and has to be dealt with.
whether be education or by force, we'll let them decide.

Before you go storming into Iran, flags waving and guns blazing perhaps
you should consider the people that live there.

I would submit to you that many many more people in the country of Iran
are peacefull, wonderful people.

People with hopes, dreams, businesses, families, values, morals, and a
desire to be a part of the world.

Just like us.

And just like us they will also pick up the nearest available weapon and
fight tooth and nail to the last drop of blood should anyone step on
their home ground with smoking guns and war in their eyes.

In this day perhaps those people are as fed up with this as we are and
will stand up and put a stop to the stupid manuevers of the fanactics
within their system.

It is happening in other places around the world look about and you may
see what I am talking about.

ab-

sometimes we say the same things, or are on the same wave but in my
typical fashion i dont articulate as well....

my point is a simple one, stand up against the crap idealogy, whatever
it is , where ever it is. guns can blaze or tongues can but remember
this, a bullet tels no lies. its point is straight to the heart of the
matter.

by now you know me, or at least have a grasp, i wouldnt arbitrarily
kill, especially when it comes to the innocents in the world, i fight
for them, period.


doc

I like what you said Doc.

I believe in the bill of rights so much that I can say without a doubt I
am willing to fight for it.

Not just here.

If asked by the innocent I would give up my blood for the rights of
anyone anywhere in the world to live as they wish, love as they wish,
and worship as they wish.

At this time my voice is all I can pledge. I will allways raise voice
against hatred, against those that kill in the names babel has given God
and against countries that wage war in the name of god or profit.

Even if that country is mine.

Whats up doc? good to see you man!!

Aint it funny Philosopher cant hold an arguement with facts involved!
LMAO

If you agree with him he will talk all day, say something about Bush and
he loses it!

He cant stand it, LOL
I love it!!!!!!

'The president is in a bubble'

The week's developments prompted one of Bush's leading critics on Iraq,
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, to charge Friday that "the president
is in a bubble."

"He is isolated. Every day the ranks of dissatisfied Republicans grow,"
Reid, D-Nevada, said.

If I leave, what are you going to do about these people!!!!!

Brown the new leader of Britain says----

Brown cited the importance of political reconciliation, economic
development and helping Iraqis "feel they've got a stake" in the
country's future.


WOW
sounds like Fanta aye??

Survey Results
Should George W Bush Step Down As President?
Yes! 59 %

No! 41 %


What are you going to do about these people???

I thought you were leaving??

Surely you didnt think I would..............

And this is on topic:

What the American authorities are reluctant to admit, however, is that
there are signs that the Sunnis of Saudi Arabia and their allies -
including Jordan - have been equipping and training Sunni extremists in
Iraq for some time now. Critically, not all the weaponry and munitions
have been used against the militants' Shia and Kurdish Iraqi enemies.
Some of them - including lethal roadside bombs - have been aimed at US
forces.

"The growth of the official and unofficial Saudi and Jordanian support
for the militants is one of the most worrying developments," a senior
British officer has told me privately after a visit to Iraq.

The Bush administration has kept mum about this while it tries to
concentrate the minds of America and the world on their new public enemy
number one, Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the region's chief
sponsor of terrorism and nuclear proliferation.



Let them fight the war. they are neighbors of Iraq, and Bush claims our
Allies!!!Bring our boys home!!!!

They want to and:

Now the Saudis tool up for war



The White House line that Iraq’s extremists are all backed by Iran is a
myth, writes robert fox
T his weekend, buyers from across the Gulf states and the Middle East
will descend on a huge arms fair in Dubai. Sheikhs, emirs, princes and
kings will be buying anything from specialised sniper ammunition by the
ton, to the highest-tech surveillance gear and even the odd British
Aerospace gunboat or Eurofighter.

The Arab world will use the International Defence Exhibition (IDEX), to
tool up for a coming confrontation with Iran, and to arm Sunni
insurgents to fight Iran's allies in Iraq, the Shia militias.



Are ready and willing!!!Read something besides Bush Rhetoric!!

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=1147

The facts are the thread killer not me, This is easy!!!

LOL

Regarding what AB said about the people of Iran..I have read that the
average age
is like 30 something..and that they admire the US and it's culture..and
compared to
most in the region they are very democratic politically...why not try
diplomacy and
aim it at that age group..?...sounds better than tactical nukes...
Why do we feel the need to destroy a culture?..

World News






Jordan's King Warns Cheney on Mideast
Published: 5/14/07, 7:05 AM EDT
By JAMAL HALABY
AMMAN, Jordan (AP) - Jordan's king warned visiting U.S. Vice President
**** Cheney Monday that time was running out to use an Arab peace plan
to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, according to a royal palace
statement.

King Abdullah II, a moderate Arab leader and a key U.S. ally, also
called for a diplomatic solution to Iran's nuclear standoff with the
West, the statement said.

"Jordan stands in support of a peaceful resolution to the issue of
Iran's nuclear capabilities that would spare the region further
tensions," Abdullah told Cheney in a closed-door meeting at the king's
beachside residence in the Red Sea resort of Aqaba.

Abdullah said the Arab peace initiative, which was first launched in
2002 and revived at an Arab summit earlier this year, "still represented
an opportunity to advance peace and end the Arab-Israeli conflict."

"Time is not on anyone's side," Abdullah warned. He did not elaborate,
but he has previously said that the absence of peacemaking is increasing
the popularity of extremists across the Muslim world.

What did he say?? The absence of peacemaking is increasing what?