Topic: Dell: Win 7 "Much More Expensive" Than Vista
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Thu 05/21/09 08:23 AM

Dell says Windows 7 price is possible barrier
by Brooke Crothers

Windows 7 pricing is potentially an obstacle to Windows 7 adoption for some users, though in just about every other aspect the operating system is beating Vista, according to a Dell marketing executive.

"If there's one thing that may influence adoption, make things slower or cause customers to pause, it's that generally the ASPs (average selling price) of the operating systems are higher than they were for Vista and XP," Darrel Ward, director of product management for Dell's business client product group, said in a phone interview, referring to the various versions of the Windows 7 operating system that are expected to appear.

Ward continued. "In tough economic times, I think it's naive to believe that you can increase your prices on average and then still see a stronger swell than if you held prices flat or even lowered them. I can tell you that the licensing tiers at retail are more expensive than they were for Vista."

In the business market, Windows 7 Professional is expected to be more expensive than Windows Vista Business, the version that Professional is replacing, he said.

Some schools and smaller businesses may not be early adopters due to price. "Schools and government agencies may not be able to afford (the additional cost). Some of the smaller businesses may not be able to enjoy the software as soon as they'd like," Ward said.

Pricing aside, Ward said momentum behind Windows 7 is big compared with Vista. "When Vista came out we didn't have the motivation to do the types of services that we're doing now. We didn't have the clear customer demand for such services," he said. "We do have a visible number of customers, large and small, who are actually waiting for Windows 7 and who have already put plans in place to target the transition to Windows 7, they're asking Dell for help. That demand and this opportunity is stronger than it has been in the past," Ward said.

And Dell is already getting its service organization in gear for Windows 7. "Our professional service organization is beginning to structure service offerings specifically designed to help customers migrate their images, their applications, and their management infrastructure, security capabilities and so forth."

More than half of Dell's business customers are still using Windows XP and these customers will eventually have to upgrade, according to Ward. "XP cannot live forever," he said.

To help users migrate from XP to Windows 7, Dell supports the upcoming operating system's XP mode. "It's one of the things that Microsoft is doing that we think is helpful. Putting an instance of XP virtual machine in the higher end SKUs (models). This is another alternative for compatibility. We'll fully support that in our product and consulting services." he said.

Driver readiness is good, with some exceptions. "Driver readiness--it looks pretty healthy compared to the past. (There are) some things that haven't been worked out. The WHQL (Windows Hardware Quality Lab) drivers for AMT VPRO is a little behind," he said, referring to Intel's Active Management Technology, which allows remote access to PCs for security, maintenance, and management.

Generally, however, Windows 7 is much further along than Vista was at this stage, he said. "But if you look at the ecosystem enabling for Windows 7, it is much further along that it was at the same time for Vista," he said.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10242555-64.html

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Thu 05/21/09 09:09 AM
Of course, this to be expected, as Microsoft needs to adjust for its losses in our current economic downturn. It STILL makes no sense, as it still has more money than god, but I guess there's no stopping corporate greed, huh.


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Thu 05/21/09 11:12 AM
Dell says? This is the name I see on every crappiest computer.

But the main problem stays: "What is it that windows 7 brings to the table, if one isn't gay?"

Everything it can do can already be done by WinXP...

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Sun 05/24/09 01:19 AM
... or by a Linux distro. I've been testing various renditions of Linux lately to see which one I want to use in the event I should have to rid myself of my addiction to all things Micro$oft. And that day might come sooner than later, if Windows 7 is as botched as Vista was.

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Sun 05/24/09 02:06 AM
I'm running Windows 7 release candidate on the machine I'm on. So far I'm liking it pretty well. An improvement on Vista that's for sure. Honestly though, it doesn't bring a whole lot more to the table over XP to warrant a pricey upgrade. There are certain things I like about it over XP and will probably run it on all my computers eventually just cause I know how to get software for free. If I had to pay, I'd probably just stick with XP till it becomes obsolete.

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Sun 05/24/09 10:09 AM

But the main problem stays: "What is it that windows 7 brings to the table, if one isn't gay?"



lol thanks for that... Sums up everything I was thinking.

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Mon 05/25/09 12:43 AM
If Windows 7 is going to be anything like Vista, I think I will remain with XP. Heck- I might consider finally making the move to Linux, which I've already kind of done with my laptop (it's loaded with Ubuntu v9.4). Not only is everything faster, but I didn't have to pay for simply ludicrous M$ pricing to get it, either.


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Mon 05/25/09 07:15 AM

I'm running Windows 7 release candidate on the machine I'm on. So far I'm liking it pretty well. An improvement on Vista that's for sure. Honestly though, it doesn't bring a whole lot more to the table over XP to warrant a pricey upgrade. There are certain things I like about it over XP and will probably run it on all my computers eventually just cause I know how to get software for free. If I had to pay, I'd probably just stick with XP till it becomes obsolete.


I think that the lengthy RC trial period will be m$'s downfall on 7. Users have till next year to purchase the full version, but in the RC they will have access to all the features of win7. Even when some people decided to plop down the $$$, they may not buy the premium version and may find that some features they come to like will now be disabled. I think win7 may find a lot of user, but in the end many people will not be willing to pay the extra $$$ and instead will just find a crack which will likely be and easily available by next year. Many special editions already exist which will never expire.

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Mon 05/25/09 11:47 AM
If windows was free, then it would be (arguably) better choice against a snobby Linux distros.

But, Windows is not free, far from it! With that in mind, how can one justify dropping so much money for windows, while just a tiny bit less user friendly system is available for free is beyond me.

Except, businesses, of course. They are trapped. They have no choice until their customer base / business process turns to Linux (If ever).

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Tue 05/26/09 07:47 AM

If windows was free, then it would be (arguably) better choice against a snobby Linux distros.

But, Windows is not free, far from it! With that in mind, how can one justify dropping so much money for windows, while just a tiny bit less user friendly system is available for free is beyond me.

Except, businesses, of course. They are trapped. They have no choice until their customer base / business process turns to Linux (If ever).


Businesses didn't take up Vista, which the main reason for quick release of 7. Many will stick with XP as it does what they need it to do. The problem will come when they need to purchase new PC's or updated software that is not XP compatible. I think you will see many move away from windows at that point. I see big things for React OShttp://www.reactos.org/en/index.html. They start beta status in the next few months.