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Topic: Onward Christian Soldiers
Lynann's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:02 AM
Okay Ladies and Gentlemen...we are fighting religious extremists and terrorist who act outside the law right?

Trouble is we are all those things too.

Please visit the site and see what the religious extremists who acted outside the law did.

This stuff makes me want to throw up.

"This Sunday, GQ magazine is posting on its Web site an article adding new details to the ample dossier on how Donald Rumsfeld’s corrupt and incompetent Defense Department cost American lives and compromised national security. The piece is not the work of a partisan but the Texan journalist Robert Draper, author of “Dead Certain,” the 2007 Bush biography that had the blessing (and cooperation) of the former president and his top brass. It draws on interviews with more than a dozen high-level Bush loyalists.

Draper reports that Rumsfeld’s monomaniacal determination to protect his Pentagon turf led him to hobble and antagonize America’s most willing allies in Iraq, Britain and Australia, and even to undermine his own soldiers. But Draper’s biggest find is a collection of daily cover sheets that Rumsfeld approved for the Secretary of Defense Worldwide Intelligence Update, a highly classified digest prepared for a tiny audience, including the president, and often delivered by hand to the White House by the defense secretary himself. These cover sheets greeted Bush each day with triumphal color photos of the war headlined by biblical quotations. GQ is posting 11 of them, and they are seriously creepy."

http://men.style.com/gq/features/topsecret

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:17 AM
laugh and those that break the law, face the law as well

but sorry...because someone has a religion doesn't make them extremists either

adj4u's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:23 AM
well seeing as the bottom of each slide said

no distribution special handling

it appears they where exercising thier personal freedom of religion

if they where preaching these things to the public your post may have a ligit point

even those in politics have freedom of religion (even if their actions are a bit foolish)

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:27 AM

well seeing as the bottom of each slide said

no distribution special handling

it appears they where exercising thier personal freedom of religion

if they where preaching these things to the public your post may have a ligit point

even those in politics have freedom of religion (even if their actions are a bit foolish)


drinker

Lynann's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:29 AM
HA HA HA

"it appears they where exercising thier personal freedom of religion

if they where preaching these things to the public your post may have a ligit point

even those in politics have freedom of religion (even if their actions are a bit foolish)"

If you cannot see the irony here you have very limited vision to be sure.

WOW...just WOW

Guess when Bush used the term "crusade" he really meant it.

Funny too to see the same posters who feel religious people in the United States are attacked unjustly feeling it is perfectly reasonable to attack others because their religion is not theirs.

The hypocrisy here is just too obvious to be ignored.

As for "exercising thier personal freedom of religion" this is a public servant. He swore to protect and defend the Constitution not to wage a religious war.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:34 AM
1cru·sade
Pronunciation: \krü-ˈsād\
Function: noun
Etymology: blend of Middle French croisade & Spanish cruzada; both ultimately from Latin cruc-, crux cross
Date: circa 1708
1: capitalized : any of the military expeditions undertaken by Christian powers in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to win the Holy Land from the Muslims
2: a remedial enterprise undertaken with zeal and enthusiasm

adj4u's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:45 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 05/17/09 08:52 AM

HA HA HA

"it appears they where exercising thier personal freedom of religion

if they where preaching these things to the public your post may have a ligit point

even those in politics have freedom of religion (even if their actions are a bit foolish)"

If you cannot see the irony here you have very limited vision to be sure.

WOW...just WOW

Guess when Bush used the term "crusade" he really meant it.

Funny too to see the same posters who feel religious people in the United States are attacked unjustly feeling it is perfectly reasonable to attack others because their religion is not theirs.

The hypocrisy here is just too obvious to be ignored.

As for "exercising thier personal freedom of religion" this is a public servant. He swore to protect and defend the Constitution not to wage a religious war.



such a short memory

iraqs refusal to permit un inspectors to do their job was behind the reason for the war

at the time this war was waged he had the backing of congress

and around 70% of the american people

so now that things are drawn out and did not go so well get out the flogging interments




nearly a 20 point jump at the time of iraq war

no photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:54 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 05/17/09 08:55 AM


HA HA HA

"it appears they where exercising thier personal freedom of religion

if they where preaching these things to the public your post may have a ligit point

even those in politics have freedom of religion (even if their actions are a bit foolish)"

If you cannot see the irony here you have very limited vision to be sure.

WOW...just WOW

Guess when Bush used the term "crusade" he really meant it.

Funny too to see the same posters who feel religious people in the United States are attacked unjustly feeling it is perfectly reasonable to attack others because their religion is not theirs.

The hypocrisy here is just too obvious to be ignored.

As for "exercising thier personal freedom of religion" this is a public servant. He swore to protect and defend the Constitution not to wage a religious war.



such a short memory

iraqs refusal to permit un inspectors to do their job was behind the reason for the war

at the time this war was waged he had the backing of congress

and around 70% of the american people

so now that things are drawn out and did not go so well get out the flogging interments




nearly a 20 point jump at the time of iraq war
HMmmm the same imspecters who kept saying they had no WMD!!!! Be seeing you,

adj4u's photo
Sun 05/17/09 08:58 AM
no the same ones that said they have not found any

but where refused access to key inspection points upon arrival

and regardless

at the time of iraq his ratings jumped around 20 points

that would show support for said actions

now we all know hindsight is 20/20

but you must go by the thought of the times

or you are comparing apples and oranges

DaveyB's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:17 AM

such a short memory

iraqs refusal to permit un inspectors to do their job was behind the reason for the war

at the time this war was waged he had the backing of congress

and around 70% of the american people


Well duh, he had the backing of congress and the American people because he had convinced both there was actual evidence of WMD's not just a lack of proof that there wasn't. Of course 20 20 hind sight we know he was lying through his teeth and there was no such in evidence in hand and that it was manufactured so he could get approval to start the war.

no photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:17 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 05/17/09 09:19 AM
If you dont believe the ones you are sending in why send them or make it a violation of a UN Resolution?

Personally I could care less about Bush or whether we go after his administration or what his approval ratings were or what Obama's is!!!



Show me results!!! Bushs dam sure will linger for a long while!! As far as Obama time will tell!

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:19 AM
maybe it's a Texas saying or something...but I hear people say they are on a crusade (as in the 2nd definition....a mission) when running errands

adj4u's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:21 AM
like i said hindsight is 20/20

point is the backing was there

it is easy to bash now knowing the way things are going now

i bet if he would have went in there like he was advised to

and it was over in the 3 years he predicted none of this would be an issue at this juncture in time

DaveyB's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:26 AM

like i said hindsight is 20/20

point is the backing was there

it is easy to bash now knowing the way things are going now


No it's easy to bash now knowing we were lied to, and deliberately. Countless American's have died for that lie.

no photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:30 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 05/17/09 09:31 AM

like i said hindsight is 20/20

point is the backing was there

it is easy to bash now knowing the way things are going now

i bet if he would have went in there like he was advised to

and it was over in the 3 years he predicted none of this would be an issue at this juncture in time
Hindsight is being behind on the truth! Lying to congress is against the law as some people have found out..Again I could care less about going after him but will call a spade a spade.........

Inspectors forsight was there were not any WMD...HE DID NOT LISTEN TO THEM but used the argument to go to war!!!

Backing based on lies....ASK the inspectors!!

DaveyB's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:37 AM


like i said hindsight is 20/20

point is the backing was there

it is easy to bash now knowing the way things are going now

i bet if he would have went in there like he was advised to

and it was over in the 3 years he predicted none of this would be an issue at this juncture in time
Hindsight is being behind on the truth! Lying to congress is against the law as some people have found out..Again I could care less about going after him but will call a spade a spade.........

Inspectors forsight was there were not any WMD...HE DID NOT LISTEN TO THEM but used the argument to go to war!!!

Backing based on lies....ASK the inspectors!!


I do care about going after him. Our status in the world is very damaged and we are now all but alone in our fight. The other countries that initially helped us have all left because they now feel as betrayed as the American people should be. Why should they ever join us again if we don't prove that we don't accept that kind of behavior from our leaders?

adj4u's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:38 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 05/17/09 09:40 AM
iraq consistently refused inspections of eight palaces

against the un mandate

how could they know if anything was or was not being produced

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the history of un weapons inspections in iraq

http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/cab/cab_3_0082to0095.pdf

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and just to clarify

i think they should investigate and if prove exists that laws were broken prosecute them as well (previous administration)


DaveyB's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:44 AM

iraq consistently refused inspections of eight palaces

against the un mandate

how could they know if anything was or was not being produced


Have you seen the sh!t they can do? Due to surveillance we had a pretty good idea what was and wasn't there.


and just to clarify

i think they should investigate and if prove exists that laws were broken prosecute them as well (previous administration)


Well at least we can agree on that. I really don't get it, a president screws his secretary and we want to string up by his balls and but screw the entire world and it's oh well. Easy to understand why we have so little world support right now.

adj4u's photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:47 AM



Well at least we can agree on that. I really don't get it, a president screws his secretary and we want to string up by his balls and but screw the entire world and it's oh well. Easy to understand why we have so little world support right now.



well actually it was not about the screwing it was about lieing to congress

well bush and his crew refused to testify under oath (so i guess that makes lying ok

no photo
Sun 05/17/09 09:48 AM
To me if we dwell on the past thats just were we will stay...

On a good note 3 foreclosed homes on my street were recently sold!!!!! Maybe I can get the value of my home back to what it was 20 yrs ago when I bought it!!!!

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